Felicityskye

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Stephanie Meyers (and her $120 million) and E.L. James (and her $150 million) might disagree. I would consider both of those amounts a "real measure" and if you can make that much, why would it even matter if your fame is fleeting? And those two are only a tiny part of a much larger list.
Both of your examples wrote stories that they wanted to tell not because they gave in to writing what someone told them to write. For example, Stephanie Meyers was criticized heavily by feminists for her writing style and her reinforcement of gender roles. She didn't give in to that criticism and continued writing what she wanted to write. And we saw how successful she became. If she gave into her critics who knows if she would have gained the same success.
 

Ilhares

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Ignore away, but you are full of shit if you say you've never heard of Twilight (Meyer) and Fifty Shades of Grey (James).
Both of your examples wrote stories that they wanted to tell not because they gave in to writing what someone told them to write.
If you know of one, it's almost impossible to not know of the other, considering Fifty Shades literally started out as bad Twilight fanfic.

And it has been rightly criticized for badly displaying BDSM, to the point that if that story was all anybody had known, I would never eant to enter that kind of relationship with them.
 

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If you know of one, it's almost impossible to not know of the other, considering Fifty Shades literally started out as bad Twilight fanfic.

And it has been rightly criticized for badly displaying BDSM, to the point that if that story was all anybody had known, I would never eant to enter that kind of relationship with them.
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So I was wondering if there is a way to avoid the storyline with Natalie. I'm sure there's a certain amount that you have to do, but is there an option that allows you to basically tell her to "fuck off" and leave you alone?

I've seen people debating about her age and how young she looks. I'm not concerned about that. It's a very well done model and I've seen 60 year olds that looks like they could be 30. I mean let's not forget that Cindy Crawford is still fucking HOT and she's 56.

My main issue is that the storyline just seems weird and out of place. I mean she tracks down the guy who killed her son only to turn around and invite him into her hotel room for a half naked massage? Even for a porn game that's just ... really odd and doesn't make much sense to me.

So I was hoping there was a way I could just ditch her and forget she exists.
 

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So I was wondering if there is a way to avoid the storyline with Natalie. I'm sure there's a certain amount that you have to do, but is there an option that allows you to basically tell her to "fuck off" and leave you alone?

I've seen people debating about her age and how young she looks. I'm not concerned about that. It's a very well done model and I've seen 60 year olds that looks like they could be 30. I mean let's not forget that Cindy Crawford is still fucking HOT and she's 56.

My main issue is that the storyline just seems weird and out of place. I mean she tracks down the guy who killed her son only to turn around and invite him into her hotel room for a half naked massage? Even for a porn game that's just ... really odd and doesn't make much sense to me.

So I was hoping there was a way I could just ditch her and forget she exists.
Don't worry, I think the game already forgot she exists.
 

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My main issue is that the storyline just seems weird and out of place. I mean she tracks down the guy who killed her son only to turn around and invite him into her hotel room for a half naked massage? Even for a porn game that's just ... really odd and doesn't make much sense to me.

So I was hoping there was a way I could just ditch her and forget she exists.
Does matters ? We owe her a son so you have to be a gentleman and give her one
 

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So I was wondering if there is a way to avoid the storyline with Natalie. I'm sure there's a certain amount that you have to do, but is there an option that allows you to basically tell her to "fuck off" and leave you alone?

I've seen people debating about her age and how young she looks. I'm not concerned about that. It's a very well done model and I've seen 60 year olds that looks like they could be 30. I mean let's not forget that Cindy Crawford is still fucking HOT and she's 56.

My main issue is that the storyline just seems weird and out of place. I mean she tracks down the guy who killed her son only to turn around and invite him into her hotel room for a half naked massage? Even for a porn game that's just ... really odd and doesn't make much sense to me.

So I was hoping there was a way I could just ditch her and forget she exists.
Yah, a lot of this game is the typical male fantasy how literally every woman who looks at the MC just falls head over heals immediately. Like the wife of the neighbor going to "warn" him and then has to end with calling him handsome, like come TF on...
 
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Yah, a lot of this game is the typical male fantasy how literally every woman who looks at the MC just falls head over heals immediately. Like the wife of the neighbor going to "warn" him and then has to end with calling him handsome, like come TF on...
Everyone knows that women are innocent creatures incapable of flirting......
 
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CreamyX

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Yah, a lot of this game is the typical male fantasy how literally every woman who looks at the MC just falls head over heals immediately. Like the wife of the neighbor going to "warn" him and then has to end with calling him handsome, like come TF on...
Yeah that's one of my main issues with a lot of these games. I've just recently (within the last month) found these. Previously I didn't know they existed. I know about some of the artwork but didn't know the games were there. As a writer I find myself torn. On the one hand I do like the abundance of sexuality and never ending fantasy fulfillment that happens with these games but I also really do like the story aspect of things.

Like last night I got to the part where MC and Jade have their first night together. It was hot to say the least, and the model for Jade is very well done, so that side of me wasn't disappointed, but storyline wise it just really seemed odd. Maybe there's a part that happens later that explains it better but at the moment it confuses me. MC meets some random chick at a liquor store. Happens to run into her at the lake and fucks her brains out that night while is 3 daughters are asleep.
 
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Does matters ? We owe her a son so you have to be a gentleman and give her one
Being a writer by trade, this is the writer part of me coming out. I like to write with a lot of realism. I'm not a fantasy style writer. When I write I do a lot of research for whatever subject I'm writing on. So let's look at the numerous problems with this logic.

2) By default Natalie is in her early to mid 50's. Assuming the MC is 18 at the start of the story, we're hold her son is 2 years younger than the MC. Which makes him 16. Assuming the mother was 18 at the time she got pregnant with her son that makes her 34 at the start of the story. The default age of the girls is 20 if I'm not mistaken which means Natalie is 54.

3) The average age for women to start menopause is 45-55. Then you also consider all of the numerous complications and defects that come with a pregnancy for older females, and it doesn't make much sense for her to want us to make her pregnant.
 

CreamyX

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For Jade's part, she hears the voices in her head. We are meant to get that she is not quite right, so we cannot guess her motivations. For the MC part, if you chose to go with her, then you question your own motivations because there is an option to NOT fuck her.
Yeah I actually did a separate save just to see what the Jade option was. My initial playthrough had me avoid her. I think if Jade had been introduced earlier in the story I would have made some different decisions but for me the story already has too many "distractions" (don't know if that's the right word) from the main focus, which is the triplets. I've turned down Vanessa as well. So I do like that you can walk away from some of these LI's.
 
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Son of Durin

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I've been alerted that I'm full of shit for not recognizing the names of authors of book series I've never read or have any interest in reading - I prefer other styles of fiction and other writers, better writers. Clancy, Tolkien, Ludlum and Pratchett are amongst my favorites. Also all are much more successful than those other two whose names I have already forgotten again.
 

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Being a writer by trade, this is the writer part of me coming out. I like to write with a lot of realism. I'm not a fantasy style writer. When I write I do a lot of research for whatever subject I'm writing on. So let's look at the numerous problems with this logic.

2) By default Natalie is in her early to mid 50's. Assuming the MC is 18 at the start of the story, we're hold her son is 2 years younger than the MC. Which makes him 16. Assuming the mother was 18 at the time she got pregnant with her son that makes her 34 at the start of the story. The default age of the girls is 20 if I'm not mistaken which means Natalie is 54.

3) The average age for women to start menopause is 45-55. Then you also consider all of the numerous complications and defects that come with a pregnancy for older females, and it doesn't make much sense for her to want us to make her pregnant.
Yeah but this game is not realistic. If the dev wants to make a grandma pregnant he'll do it, like he made a virgin mother.
 
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armond

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I've been alerted that I'm full of shit for not recognizing the names of authors of book series I've never read or have any interest in reading - I prefer other styles of fiction and other writers, better writers. Clancy, Tolkien, Ludlum and Pratchett are amongst my favorites. Also all are much more successful than those other two whose names I have already forgotten again.
I suggest more fiber in your diet, have you read any McCarthy? Blood meridian is neat.
 

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Yeah but this game is not realistic. If the dev wants to make a grandma pregnant he'll do it, like he made a virgin mother.
You say that and yet in real life 10's of thousands upon dozens of thousands of women have had children without sex at all....



Nothing about that is crazy



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OMG Did I way under count


8 MILLION births without sex, NONE
 

dolfe67

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You say that and yet in real life 10's of thousands upon dozens of thousands of women have had children without sex at all....



Nothing about that is crazy



(EDIT)

OMG Did I way under count


8 MILLION births without sex, NONE
Yeah yeah and how many were virgins prior to the birth? I bet not more than 50+ year old newly mothers
 

dolfe67

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The thing is not only that she's a virgin, but that she also got her child at 18 being single. What about studying and income?

My point is the game is not realistic, for several things. Nothing wrong with that. Some games are more grounded than others, this one is not. It's better to be informed.
 
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