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styggtuff12

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so how limiting is the romancing? if i romance one can i no longer romance the others? or is this full harem game?
 

Filipis

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so how limiting is the romancing? if i romance one can i no longer romance the others? or is this full harem game?
Too early to tell, but so far, it seems the intention is to have all 3 main girls in the harem. Not sure about all the others. Could be wrong, as I have had no communication with the developers.
 
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Well, what do you expect. It's from the same makers as Polarity.

So, if anything, we know they are very reliable at "not delivering" and "empty promises".

I'm expecting another Dodo.
But HEY! 4600 US$ every month on Patreon alone. Heck, I would keep it going indefinitely too. :KEK:
 
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styggtuff12

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i just finished chapter 2 and i really gotta know is officer douche gonna fuck off or am i gonna have to suffer this bastard throughout the next 2 chapters?
 

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i just finished chapter 2 and i really gotta know is officer douche gonna fuck off or am i gonna have to suffer this bastard throughout the next 2 chapters?
Don't recall him showing up after he took that picture. Instead they try to explain it away as a non issue.
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Not a fan of how he was introduced or what I suspect is them backtracking to make up for the negative response to him. We can only hope he doesn't show up much at all again.
 

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Hm, thanks for the answer. And yes I get that you wouldn't want a story about a guy that goes to work every day and nothing special happens, haha. But like, even if I'm watching a movie, yes I am on the same page as you in that obviously the circumstances are more interesting if it's not something that's currently happening, but at the same time the reason why I question these things is that for me I still would only like the characters if I could relate to them. So like if the main character is just an a-hole and just treats everyone like crap but still feels entitled to everything, yah, I have no interest in watching a movie about this person... unless something bad happens to him, lol. But I guess I get your point.

But in terms of an adult game, it has to "turn you on" to put it crudely. And for me I still feel like it needs to be something that actually, well, turns you on... So I guess my question really is why it turns you on if it's not something you actually want to do? I mean, you don't have to answer, I'm just clarifying why I ask these things. Like I've always said, I can only speak for myself and I'm not telling anyone else what they should or should not like. The only thing that frustrates me is merely that I don't like it (as in it's actually a turn off), so it limits my game choices when so many of them have it that have characters that fit what I'm looking for physically.

Which is another thing that I know is a minority opinion. I honestly do not like voluptuous women, like with the huge ass, huge breasts, etc... And the majority of h-games feature people with really exaggerated features like that. Yes, I totally understand, it's their dream body type, it's fantasy, so they can exaggerate to their heart's desires, I get it. But so that already limits my choices. I like slender/fit women and for me, that also means proportionally smaller breasts and ass looks better for that body type (again, just MY personal preference, no offense to anyone who disagrees!!). And so finding H-games with characters like that, like a good chunk of them (in this game Olivia would be that person who drew me in from the screenshots from another website, itch) they turn out to be the MC's sister or daughter, and that's why I'm just like "uuuuggggghhhh, why?????" lol. Although in this game there is a character that isn't related to the MC that I find physically attractive, Mira, so I'm going to keep playing it, rejecting the daughters everytime the game tries to force them onto the MC (it REALLY wants you to say yes, lol, everytime I say no, the character will get into some internal monologue about why it should be ok and will say yes next time, lol, then I say no again...), and hope it has romance options with Mira...



Yah man, thanks for the well-thought-out response, I'll take a look at A Petal Among Thorns. And yes, for me it's actively a turn-off. Like it's not simply something I don't prefer, I really dislike the idea. I actually have a very strong parental instinct, I'm not yet a father, but I have a very protective nature about me, so for me the mere concept of being sexual with someone that's like a daughter to me is pretty repulsive to be really honest. Again, no offense to anyone who disagrees with me, I can only speak for myself!

And what you mention about the cousin thing, while I don't prefer that either, I don't really find that actually "repulsive" since you generally don't grow up with a cousin (like you do with a sister) and you shouldn't have a parental/protective obligation to a cousin (like you do with a daughter). So a cousin relationship is more of a "technical" relationship, but in terms of like if society had no say in it, I don't see anything inherently repulsive about the idea. I personally am still not into that, but I don't have the strong feelings about it like I do with immediate family like mother, daughter, and sister.

The one thing I kind of don't like about this game so far besides that though, is that it really does feel like the story almost revolves around the assumption that you will choose to become romantic with your daughters. Like I've tried turning them down over and over, and the game keeps on forcing these situations onto the MC and between the choices the internal monologues always consist of the MC rationalizing to himself that it's ok to have a sexual relationship with his daughters. Like, yes, I actually understand that if the story revolves around that, it would be much more difficult for the writer to keep a cohesive story moving forward without that element. But surprisingly I found a game that seems to do this very well.

There is a game called Our Red String. There's no incest or anything in there, but the game really intends for the two main characters to get together, Ian and Lena. In fact, the game actually switches control between those two characters. And while in the beginning few chapters you really do have to try really hard to avoid them two getting together, it's possible. Now, it's not incest, so that's not the reason why I didn't want them to get together. It's because I was REALLY interested in one of the other girls, Holly. And that game is less of a Harem game, the main characters are more-or-less loyal (excluding lesbian scenes and such) once you get them together. So if I wanted to get with Holly, I had to basically avoid ANY sex scenes with Lena. But once I basically got past the first few chapters and got with Holly, the game stopped putting in those situations where it tries to coerce Ian and Lena together, and now Ian and Holly are together and Ian and Lena actually has this BEAUTIFUL platonic friendship. I'm so happy I decided to go that route, I am REALLY enjoying that aspect of it.

Anyway, I'm rambling on, but give Our Red String a try, the writing in that game is phenomenal.
My problem with red string is that you can whore the fuck out the female protag and how the hell you could make it work with the male protag.

I guess it's a realistic take making so fucking annoying having to turn down every male you encounter and propose to you. Still made impossible to match both MC for me.
 

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Finished my first playthrough, and wow do I like this game. I hope there is benefits to picking different paths with girls. I like a lust path with Liv and Maddie, but then a Dark path with Allie because her naivety is so fun to mess with. I tried an all Dark run just to see and you get a lot more content with Maddie that way, but MC is an absolute monster so I only did that for the content not really my cup of tea. I didn't try an all Pure run because usually that's pretty vanilla.

I did see in the genre tags it has Netori listed. Is that upcoming? What will that entail?
 
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Finished my first playthrough, and wow do I like this game. I hope there is benefits to picking different paths with girls. I like a lust path with Liv and Maddie, but then a Dark path with Allie because her naivety is so fun to mess with. I tried an all Dark run just to see and you get a lot more content with Maddie that way, but MC is an absolute monster so I only did that for the content not really my cup of tea. I didn't try an all Pure run because usually that's pretty vanilla.

I did see in the genre tags it has Netori listed. Is that upcoming? What will that entail?
About the netori should be a LI trying to steal MC if he is dating someone. (Not his wards probably)
 

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Don't recall him showing up after he took that picture. Instead they try to explain it away as a non issue.
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Not a fan of how he was introduced or what I suspect is them backtracking to make up for the negative response to him. We can only hope he doesn't show up much at all again.
I don't care about the character either, but what is it about harem games and their fans that you can have exactly ZERO sexual competitors or even plot challenges. This genre is rife with girls that are basically begging you for sex (even though their virgins, despite being hot and fun), whilst having not struggle whatsoever. I guess its just pure power fantasy.
 
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Filipis

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I don't care about the character either, but what is it about harem games and their fans that you can have exactly ZERO sexual competitors or even plot challenges. This genre is rife with girls that are basically begging you for sex (even though their virgins, despite being hot and fun), whilst having not struggle whatsoever. I guess its just pure power fantasy.
We are long ways from Adult Visual Novels that actually strive to provide a decent narrative. And it's because the actual development is so slow that a nice slow-burn romance necessary for a believable harem would realistically put off so many fans... because by the time you pay off that slow-burn romance between all the characters, the player will be playing it from a retirement home.
 

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Everyone knows that women are innocent creatures incapable of flirting......
Yes, pretty much literally throwing themselves onto someone on the very first moment they meet them is "flirting"... But either way, my point is that EVERY FEMALE your MC runs into does this. So even if it's just flirting, it's exactly like I said, just male fantasy that literally 100% of the females you happen to encounter will "flirt" with you on the very first moment they set eyes on you...

Yeah that's one of my main issues with a lot of these games. I've just recently (within the last month) found these. Previously I didn't know they existed. I know about some of the artwork but didn't know the games were there. As a writer I find myself torn. On the one hand I do like the abundance of sexuality and never ending fantasy fulfillment that happens with these games but I also really do like the story aspect of things.

Like last night I got to the part where MC and Jade have their first night together. It was hot to say the least, and the model for Jade is very well done, so that side of me wasn't disappointed, but storyline wise it just really seemed odd. Maybe there's a part that happens later that explains it better but at the moment it confuses me. MC meets some random chick at a liquor store. Happens to run into her at the lake and fucks her brains out that night while is 3 daughters are asleep.
Exactly, like how convenient that out of everyone her "voices" in her head just happens to choose you, the MC, to be the one they say to go after...

For Jade's part, she hears the voices in her head. We are meant to get that she is not quite right, so we cannot guess her motivations. For the MC part, if you chose to go with her, then you question your own motivations because there is an option to NOT fuck her.

That's the thing often overlooked in VNs is that we make choices to get the wish fulfillment, right? The vast majority of us will select those wishes. So that style seems to be appropriate rather than wrong.

For others in the thread not just you:

You could always read Les Misérables if you want things to go wrong and no one to be happy.

Also once you have a sense the story will have the MC getting a FEAST of LIs you could move along if that is a turn off, as these stories aren't going to change once established.




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Yah but the issue is that of course out of everyone those voices would tell her to go after the MC just like every other female character the moment you meet them with or without voices, lol.
 
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