yuy669

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that is very downgraded no offense to the new artist, now this game lost its identity and uniqueness. I guess we'll have to get used to this from now on :/
or with offense, i don't care if it's bad it's bad and this is not what i payed form, yes i was a patreon, had i know it would turn out like this i would tell them to go fuck themselves, i want my money back
 

yuy669

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New artstyle sucks, honestly. It fits better in some random manga, not in this kind of game.
Id take that simplistic artsyle over detailed bullholes any day.
Time to unfollow this thread.
yea me too, not gonna bother even for free
 

Mr_Sel

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Spare me the contrarian bullshit. They made young farm girl that was shown to be lean in other scenes into a chubby mid-wife with hips that spawned at least 3 children
Let's be honest, the girl from the original picture has a body of an Instagram model, who lives in the gym - the proportions we've seen in 90% games on this site. Basically hand drawn version of honey select - there was nothing original about it.
I'm not saying you have no right to prefer it. You have. But the second picture is objectively better representation of human body and there's nothing "chubby" about it. It's just how the body behaves in that position, when muscles relax. Also, again, we're talking about farm girl who is actually working physically and does not have time or energy for 500 squats in front of the mirror every day.
 
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rance4747

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Let's be honest, the girl from the original picture has a body of an Instagram model, who lives in the gym - the proportions we've seen in 90% games on this site. Basically hand drawn version of honey select - there was nothing original about it.
I'm not saying you have no right to prefer it. You have. But the second picture is objectively better representation of human body and there's nothing "chubby" about it. It's just how the body behaves in that position, when muscles relax. Also, again, we're talking about farm girl who is actually working physically and does not have time or energy for 500 squats in front of the mirror every day.
Again, we are talking anime influenced style as well as medival fantasy setting. But skipping some slim fast alchemy grasses and whatever else fantasy women would use casually without even thinking about it, archmage ladies looking like a snack that barely over 20, as well as me wanting and paying for escapism instead of "realism" - modern era "relistic"
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chub chubs started only after 80th en masse, and otherwise would mean someone that isnt actively working and has enough money to not only eat, but gourge herself on something sugary. If Thea was some merchant's daugter or had eating problem, that would have been somewhat realistic, but how many rural girls even today sport more than 25% body fat? Early style Thea was around 20-25%. New one is 35% body fat at least, especially if you look at sex scene picture.
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Again, we are talking anime influenced style as well as medival fantasy setting. But skipping some slim fast alchemy grasses and whatever else fantasy women would use casually without even thinking about it, archmage ladies looking like a snack that barely over 20, as well as me wanting and paying for escapism instead of "realism" - modern era "relistic"
If the girl next door has the same body type as elven ranger, or magically improved sorceress - you need to ask yourself a question - what's the point?
chub chubs started only after 80th en masse, and otherwise would mean someone that isnt actively working and has enough money to not only eat, but gourge herself on something sugary. If Thea was some merchant's daugter or had eating problem, that would have been somewhat realistic, but how many rural girls even today sport more than 25% body fat? Early style Thea was around 20-25%. New one is 35% body fat at least, especially if you look at sex scene picture.
Are you being serious right now? These are photos of models. "Early style Thea was around 20-25%." only because of T&A - body like that requires exercising specific parts of muscles, not just physical work. Peasant women were usually rather "stocky", as it helped surviving both heavy work and labor in primitive conditions (not to mention it helped you not to freeze in poorly heated housing). Those who were slim usually did not survive. It's pure genetics.

Again, I fully understand being upset about art style change, but I don't agree with bashing decent art, only because it's not to someone's preference.
 
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rance4747

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If the girl next door has the same body type as elven ranger, or magically improved sorceress - you need to ask yourself a question - what's the point?
Old style Thea was also prettier than childhood friend the alchemist, and half of the amazonian type mercs from the guild. Your point? Just because she is from lower strata where average should logically be uglier than enhanced humans and non-humans the one that got fated with MC should also be the average?

Are you being serious right now? These are photos of models. "Early style Thea was around 20-25%." only because of T&A - body like that requires exercising specific parts of muscles, not just physical work. Peasant women were usually rather "stocky", as it helped surviving both heavy work and labor in primitive conditions (not to mention it helped you not to freeze in poorly heated housing). Those who were slim usually did not survive. It's pure genetics.
Your point kinda misses the fact that most pesants and serfs were a bit malnurished than stocky trough the history. So the only thing unrealistic about Thea is her being a bit taller, not having a good figure in original style.
As for genetic "averages", women from lower startas tended to get occasional, if not regular attention from men from higher stratas, so - larger villages usually had those "abnormally atractive ones"(most likely born because local lord or pass trough bard took someone to a pound town) serve local lords, lower nobility and important guests during visits, if vlillage was large enough, to make sure no one goes for already married ones, too young ones, and those that only have chastity going for them. Abnormally atractive village girls got chances to become mistereses and servants to someone from higher stratas that likes them enough, village chiefs got their pimp's due from satisfied guests, and average village men arent getting cucked, everybody wins. So Thea both not being forced to work as much as the rest, and getting good with tavern work fast is a natural progression.

Again, I fully understand being upset about art style change, but I don't agree with bashing decent art, only because it's not to someone's preference.
And i understand that you may enjoy the new one, but the old clean and minimalistic one clashes waaaaay too much with new overlined one that is too rich with gloss spots, makes every girl it was applied to look chubbier, and somehow manages to show oversized buttholes from angles that are impossible without a much larger oversexualization if not fetishization, than slim model like figures of old style ever were. Like, if we are talking realism, to see chuby gilrl's anus so clearly and in full from the angle that was shown for Gabe's bath pic, she would litterally need to unclench it on purpose and hold those cheeks open with both hands as she turns to you.

It would have been way more tastefull of a move to introduce the new guy on the team by making him do new or unexplore characters lioe that dwarf girl, to see how fans and supporters like him, instead of making him redraw the core cast just because bunis, like every other artist focused on self-improvment, is a bit insecure about his earlier works.
I like Bunis's art, way more than whatever this is, even when you compare older pieces with the best new guy can bring to the table. And if feels like slow erasure of his art and with it, the game I used to love and support, that doesnt need to happen. :cry:
 
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Mr_Sel

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Your point?
My point is, that I'm bored to death of these lego worlds - every body looks the same you only change heads. Claiming cute elf is much less fun, if it's simply yet another "big T&A, slim waist" just different face. Exactly like dozen other girls you've met before getting there.

Your point kinda misses the fact that most pesants and serfs were a bit malnurished than stocky trough the history.
Not really, no. I'm talking about anatomy - solid build was quite common and this type of body easily accommodates fat here and there - simple as that.

because bunis, like every other artist focused on self-improvment, is a bit insecure about his earlier works
Are you sure that it's that and not a standard business decision? Artists deliver pics at different pace. It's been what, 4 years? and the game is nowhere near being finished. Hell, the current plot still feels more like a prologue. Maybe dev just realized that there needs to be a serious change in how they do things if there is to be any hope of completing this game.
 

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Guys, where to find the version 1.7.0-1 for Android for free??? It's only available for PC on this forum. I could only find version 1.6.10-3 for Android here.
 
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AstarothCray

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This game requires a new game + to have all our level of skills with the 3 masteries and our gold, the level is not so important but there we could read everything without having to farm so much
 

20deeznuts

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->I for some reasons skiped this game for so many damn time every time I see it,
->decided to try it out
->Play through twice
->My reaction for both playthroughs (but with tears):
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Ruben2003

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Guys I understand your frustrations with the art style BUT for me to give an genuine opinion on it I would need to play it.
SO FOR THE LOVE OF GOD CAN ANY HERO COME AND GIVE US AN UPDATED VERSION OF THE GAME FOR ANDROID pls.
P.S. I NEEEED TO SAVE TWIG, LET ME SAVE HER.
 

Ruben2003

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Not really, no. I'm talking about anatomy - solid build was quite common and this type of body easily accommodates fat here and there - simple as that.
As an European who loves history and who lives in one of the oldest country and in a city at least 200 to 100 years older than Christianity itself I can definitely say that the looking realistic argument for the Thea new art-style falls completely through land bc:


SERFS AND COMMUNERS USED TO GO HUNGRY in fact going hungry was at the base of MANY rebellions in Europe against bad Kings and Queen's who didn't know how to deal with money.
 
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Reptiliankind

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Does anyone know does twig have a romance route yet or it's only the sex pet route
3 routes as per the changelog; slave, romance, and wholesome
the romance route exists but it's mostly commented out (dev outline) for this patch, as it's denoted to be for 1.7.1 in the tips tab.
wholesome is as its label; and slave is as slave is. both with a bit of content (story/h cgs respectively)
 
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