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Yeah, it seems like I had to sacrifice the abess. Shame though, she was thick.Play power mode and visit every location, all lairs have one specific character each, but all involve sacrificing one of the girls to get them or power them up. The cove you sacrifice the abess , the tower you give up valzira, and the mine you sacrifice Heloise.
Try using this for ripping music from VNsAmazing game, is there any where to find the menu music by itself, Youtube or something?
You can go for Abandoned Mine lair and just tell Infernals to fuck off. No lair faction, but hey, all girls available.Yeah, it seems like I had to sacrifice the abess. Shame though, she was thick.
Noticed that the latest version includes Steam DRM, just drag and replace files into main folder, and it should launch right away.
what one is the main folder if i may askNoticed that the latest version includes Steam DRM, just drag and replace files into main folder, and it should launch right away.
You are right that being good is more challenging but you are inherently taking people to your lair against their will. Valzira hates your fucking guts, not just because you kidnapped her and outwitted her, but because you are a dragon. Her race and your race are practically programmed to be at odds with each other.I agree. I want happy Naho to be my bodyguard and happy Valzira to be my wife. I think being good is more challenging than breaking the characters.
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Great job at explaining Val's and Naho's characters in such great detail. Maybe after this some people would understand that you can't just be nice to everyone. Some characters are irredeemable scumbags who answer with poison to kindness.You are right that being good is more challenging but you are inherently taking people to your lair against their will. Valzira hates your fucking guts, not just because you kidnapped her and outwitted her, but because you are a dragon. Her race and your race are practically programmed to be at odds with each other.
Just like Naho, I don't see a happy relationship being brought if you can't break or make her dependent on you. It's literally the only way Naho will be your consort because if you try to do it normally, she is going to attempt to fucking kill you. Because, surprise, surprise, she hates you for beating her in honorable combat and humiliating her in front of her tribe.
They aren't going to fall for you, they have no reason to. You took everything that matter to them and they already hated and celebrated the genocide of your kind. I just don't see it working. Even if you choose to not touch them and speak nicely, they aren't going to change how they feel about you. This isn't an anime where you can change people by being kind, especially since they hate your guts and have a good reason to. If you feel this way, You honestly don't understand the characters and don't want to. You just want to force your fantasy version of them into the game. I just can't see someone like Naho or Val being genuinely happy consorts/servants of the dragon.
Little Rant and Spoils for both characters below.
If you really look at it, both Naho and Val are hypocrites, which makes them more believable and tolerable characters in my opinion. Naho and Val are convinced of some ultra-sexist stuff about the power dynamics of men and women, hell the whole world kinda is. Naho takes about honor, her pack, and how she prided herself on being alpha. Accusing her pack of being nothing but worthless curs who just wanted to fuck. Guess how she rose to power? By fucking and using herbs given to her by Val so she wouldn't get pregnant, she was protected by guy members who thought she was bearing their child and didn't want any harm done to her. So she manipulated her pack into doing what she wanted and continue to do so more ruthlessly when she began as Alpha, but she didn't have the strength nor the tactics to drive away human mercs harassing them. She depended too much on Val who was essentially just helping her because she was bored.
Naho wasn't a good alpha/leader, she didn't try to understand or compromise with her pack. She forbid them from fucking others that weren't their race and she broke Erubon's legs because he was a threat to her leadership. Her way of leading the pack depended entirely on Val backing her up and the pack bending the knee. When she fought and lost to you, her pack celebrated and she saw it as a betrayal. But she never worked to gain any real loyalty and she gain power by fucking just like the same people she looked down upon. Her pride was just too big for her to ever see her mistakes. Her pack accepts you because you are strong and she was pretty much oppressing them in their eyes. You defeated her fairly in a one-on-one match, but she feels that dragons don't deserve honor and they should have all just jumped you when she lost. But that's just her covering for her pride again. Like Val she is unable to do any actual self-reflection and is stuck in her ways.
Val is even worst though. I can barely put into words how much I like her as a character and hate her and the convocation. The elves genocided a whole race and pretty much do exactly what dragons do but under the protection of their religion and through more subtle means. Valzira has a deep hatred of men and honestly sees them as nothing more than beasts. To her, it is the job of a wise woman to twist the wills of beasts (men) to suit their purposes. From what I have inferred in the story, I think a lot of her hate may have come from the dragon she served. She has done two things on a whim. One of them was what she did To Issa and the other was her screwing over the pack by planting ideas in Naho's head. The casual way she abandons people due to boredom shows she doesn't really care for her fellow women. Rather of how she tries to spin it she believes in a mentality similar to a lot of dragons, just replacing brains over brawn. She lost against you because she looked down on you and saw you as a simple beast. When you have shown her that she was wrong, she denies it entirely. Her ego will not allow her to escape that she lost to you. So she plays herself as a victim, but her actions through conversations showed she was pretty cruel to other and even assisted a dragon that did the same to his captives.
You really can't reason with people like that, especially when they don't want to hear what you have to say and reject you as a living creature.
A common debate among comic book fans is, "If X and Y were to clash, who would win?"You are right that being good is more challenging but you are inherently taking people to your lair against their will. Valzira hates your fucking guts, not just because you kidnapped her and outwitted her, but because you are a dragon. Her race and your race are practically programmed to be at odds with each other.
Just like Naho, I don't see a happy relationship being brought if you can't break or make her dependent on you. It's literally the only way Naho will be your consort because if you try to do it normally, she is going to attempt to fucking kill you. Because, surprise, surprise, she hates you for beating her in honorable combat and humiliating her in front of her tribe.
They aren't going to fall for you, they have no reason to. You took everything that matter to them and they already hated and celebrated the genocide of your kind. I just don't see it working. Even if you choose to not touch them and speak nicely, they aren't going to change how they feel about you. This isn't an anime where you can change people by being kind, especially since they hate your guts and have a good reason to. If you feel this way, You honestly don't understand the characters and don't want to. You just want to force your fantasy version of them into the game. I just can't see someone like Naho or Val being genuinely happy consorts/servants of the dragon.
Little Rant and Spoils for both characters below.
If you really look at it, both Naho and Val are hypocrites, which makes them more believable and tolerable characters in my opinion. Naho and Val are convinced of some ultra-sexist stuff about the power dynamics of men and women, hell the whole world kinda is. Naho takes about honor, her pack, and how she prided herself on being alpha. Accusing her pack of being nothing but worthless curs who just wanted to fuck. Guess how she rose to power? By fucking and using herbs given to her by Val so she wouldn't get pregnant, she was protected by guy members who thought she was bearing their child and didn't want any harm done to her. So she manipulated her pack into doing what she wanted and continue to do so more ruthlessly when she began as Alpha, but she didn't have the strength nor the tactics to drive away human mercs harassing them. She depended too much on Val who was essentially just helping her because she was bored.
Naho wasn't a good alpha/leader, she didn't try to understand or compromise with her pack. She forbid them from fucking others that weren't their race and she broke Erubon's legs because he was a threat to her leadership. Her way of leading the pack depended entirely on Val backing her up and the pack bending the knee. When she fought and lost to you, her pack celebrated and she saw it as a betrayal. But she never worked to gain any real loyalty and she gain power by fucking just like the same people she looked down upon. Her pride was just too big for her to ever see her mistakes. Her pack accepts you because you are strong and she was pretty much oppressing them in their eyes. You defeated her fairly in a one-on-one match, but she feels that dragons don't deserve honor and they should have all just jumped you when she lost. But that's just her covering for her pride again. Like Val she is unable to do any actual self-reflection and is stuck in her ways.
Val is even worst though. I can barely put into words how much I like her as a character and hate her and the convocation. The elves genocided a whole race and pretty much do exactly what dragons do but under the protection of their religion and through more subtle means. Valzira has a deep hatred of men and honestly sees them as nothing more than beasts. To her, it is the job of a wise woman to twist the wills of beasts (men) to suit their purposes. From what I have inferred in the story, I think a lot of her hate may have come from the dragon she served. She has done two things on a whim. One of them was what she did To Issa and the other was her screwing over the pack by planting ideas in Naho's head. The casual way she abandons people due to boredom shows she doesn't really care for her fellow women. Rather of how she tries to spin it she believes in a mentality similar to a lot of dragons, just replacing brains over brawn. She lost against you because she looked down on you and saw you as a simple beast. When you have shown her that she was wrong, she denies it entirely. Her ego will not allow her to escape that she lost to you. So she plays herself as a victim, but her actions through conversations showed she was pretty cruel to other and even assisted a dragon that did the same to his captives.
You really can't reason with people like that, especially when they don't want to hear what you have to say and reject you as a living creature.
A common debate among comic book fans is, "If X and Y were to clash, who would win?"
Stan Lee replied, "Whoever the storyteller wants to win the fight will win."
I see your point, but developers can create an alternative route if they want. For example: recruiting a wolf pack is not compulsory. Defeating Naho can be skipped. Suppose, in the process of conquest, we can offer them an alliance. Naho is not a good leader, but she is not stupid. She'd probably take it, especially if we'd already subjugated everyone else and, say, offered them the lowlands in return.
Since I'm not writing the story, it's all hypothetical. I'm just saying that it can be done if the writers want to do it.
If it was just a game with dragons and magic, then I wouldn't have bothered. But the game is complex and has great lore and imprecations that the players can learn if they pay attention to it. That's what makes this game so good, it melds story and lewd stuff together seamlessly, with neither taking away from the other.Too much reasoning for a game with dragons and magic
To be fair, they are somewhat right about the nature of most dragons. I think the reason why our dragon is such an aberration is because of the fusion of a mortal mind with the Sun's essence. We still have our cravings but it's up to us whether we are completely ruled by them. We can resist them, but it's still a part of us and something we are going to indulge in. If we didn't, we wouldn't have any consult, allies, or treasure.Great job at explaining Val's and Naho's characters in such great detail. Maybe after this some people would understand that you can't just be nice to everyone. Some characters are irredeemable scumbags who answer with poison to kindness.
Time heals all wounds. While it is understandable for them to remain furious at the dragon for a good, long while following their capture, if the dragon does nothing but treat them (sternly but) fairly following their capture, I have hope that they might one day change their minds. If anything, is Valzira going to stay put in her cell, lashing out at every opportunity for next next—how long do elves live?—five centuries or so? At some point anyone would just run out of energy. I suppose one could view this approach as another form of “breaking”, but I still find it preferable by far.You are right that being good is more challenging but you are inherently taking people to your lair against their will. Valzira hates your fucking guts, not just because you kidnapped her and outwitted her, but because you are a dragon. Her race and your race are practically programmed to be at odds with each other.
Just like Naho, I don't see a happy relationship being brought if you can't break or make her dependent on you. It's literally the only way Naho will be your consort because if you try to do it normally, she is going to attempt to fucking kill you. Because, surprise, surprise, she hates you for beating her in honorable combat and humiliating her in front of her tribe.
They aren't going to fall for you, they have no reason to. You took everything that matter to them and they already hated and celebrated the genocide of your kind. I just don't see it working. Even if you choose to not touch them and speak nicely, they aren't going to change how they feel about you. This isn't an anime where you can change people by being kind, especially since they hate your guts and have a good reason to. If you feel this way, You honestly don't understand the characters and don't want to. You just want to force your fantasy version of them into the game. I just can't see someone like Naho or Val being genuinely happy consorts/servants of the dragon.
That’s one point where I wish the game let us be kinder; I think Mina’s is the only relationship you can meaningfully improve without having sex with her, and I personally would like to be able to do more for the harem girls that didn’t involve sex—bringing them gifts, improving their living conditions, spending time with them (inviting them to the baths, etc.), and so on. That’s just my preference, but even in a slave game like this, given the chance I’d rather win the girls over beforehand.and treat them as gloried sex slaves.
Bruh. She'll just mock Heloise for being a pussy, and for submitting to a dragon.(Picture a scene where the dragon has Valzira’s bindings removed; she instantly tries to manipulate him, but is unexpectedly stopped by Héloïse, who, as you brought up, calls to her attention that they were being manipulated by the Pale Convocation anyway, etc. Maybe she has to be put back into restraints for the time being, but now she can mull over this new information, all the while being reminded of the dragon’s relative goodwill (he could have killed her for her attempt on his life, but chose not to).)
At this point, you're trying to roleplay as an average neckbeard.That’s one point where I wish the game let us be kinder; I think Mina’s is the only relationship you can meaningfully improve without having sex with her, and I personally would like to be able to do more for the harem girls that didn’t involve sex—bringing them gifts, improving their living conditions, spending time with them (inviting them to the baths, etc.), and so on. That’s just my preference, but even in a slave game like this, given the chance I’d rather win the girls over beforehand.
IDK, she looked genuinely shocked when Marie-Anne defended the dragon on account of his treating her well, and expressed regret for berating her. Seems to me like there’s the potential for redemption there.Bruh. She'll just mock Heloise for being a pussy, and for submitting to a dragon.
Do neckbears act like that? Maybe that’s the internet meme, but I know a couple neckbeards in real life, and they aren’t close to being that considerate towards women.At this point, you're trying to roleplay as an average neckbeard.
The only things left to do are find a fedora, and adress every female as m'lady.
You wanting these things make you miss the point of what you are.You aren't a hero or some benign creature. it is in your nature to dominate, to take, to conquer and rule. You are greedy and possessive. While you can be merciful to those that bend the knee, you would still naturally kill any who challenged your rule or disrespected you. It's possible to resist you nature and do good, but ultimately you and I know it's for your own benefit. The dragon is clever as they are powerful. That is shown time and time again, if you weren't you'd be dead by now.Time heals all wounds. While it is understandable for them to remain furious at the dragon for a good, long while following their capture, if the dragon does nothing but treat them (sternly but) fairly following their capture, I have hope that they might one day change their minds. If anything, is Valzira going to stay put in her cell, lashing out at every opportunity for next next—how long do elves live?—five centuries or so? At some point anyone would just run out of energy. I suppose one could view this approach as another form of “breaking”, but I still find it preferable by far.
There’s also the fact that the dragon isn’t the only factor; there are the other captives as well, who could do their part in mollifying Naho or Valzira. Marie-Anne already has a few interactions with the latter (of which I am very fond) which hint at the possibility of making peace with her, and there could be even more; Héloïse—who has already demonstrated a certain willingness to help Maëlys out of her shell—could help with the effort as well.
(Picture a scene where the dragon has Valzira’s bindings removed; she instantly tries to manipulate him, but is unexpectedly stopped by Héloïse, who, as you brought up, calls to her attention that they were being manipulated by the Pale Convocation anyway, etc. Maybe she has to be put back into restraints for the time being, but now she can mull over this new information, all the while being reminded of the dragon’s relative goodwill (he could have killed her for her attempt on his life, but chose not to).)
I’m always in favour of more bonding between harem members, and eventually, this could lead to a situation where, even if Naho and Valzira still have a sore spot for the dragon, their relationship with the other girls serves to keep them in check.
That’s one point where I wish the game let us be kinder; I think Mina’s is the only relationship you can meaningfully improve without having sex with her, and I personally would like to be able to do more for the harem girls that didn’t involve sex—bringing them gifts, improving their living conditions, spending time with them (inviting them to the baths, etc.), and so on. That’s just my preference, but even in a slave game like this, given the chance I’d rather win the girls over beforehand.