Bruh. She'll just mock Heloise for being a pussy, and for submitting to a dragon.
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At this point, you're trying to roleplay as an average neckbeard.
The only things left to do are find a fedora, and adress every female as m'lady.
IDK, she looked genuinely shocked when Marie-Anne defended the dragon on account of his treating her well, and expressed regret for berating her. Seems to me like there’s the potential for redemption there.Bruh. She'll just mock Heloise for being a pussy, and for submitting to a dragon.
Do neckbears act like that? Maybe that’s the internet meme, but I know a couple neckbeards in real life, and they aren’t close to being that considerate towards women.At this point, you're trying to roleplay as an average neckbeard.
The only things left to do are find a fedora, and adress every female as m'lady.
In any case, there might be a superficial resemblance, but I also feel as though there’s a significant distinction, which is that of power: a nice guy™ will be on his best behaviour in the hopes that women will deign reciprocate with sex (though in his mind he believes it is owed him); on the other hand, in the skin of the dragon, I can and will get sex from the girls—when I choose—only I would rather they be into it. Moreover, it’s a power fantasy to treat my kept women to luxuries and fine things (and women are into it too, looking at the success of Fifty Shades of Grey); I’m under the impression that neckbeards don’t often actually have anything of worth to offer.
You wanting these things make you miss the point of what you are.You aren't a hero or some benign creature. it is in your nature to dominate, to take, to conquer and rule. You are greedy and possessive. While you can be merciful to those that bend the knee, you would still naturally kill any who challenged your rule or disrespected you. It's possible to resist you nature and do good, but ultimately you and I know it's for your own benefit. The dragon is clever as they are powerful. That is shown time and time again, if you weren't you'd be dead by now.
I don't know how long Elf's live but I imagine it is a very, very long time. Valzira isn't changing my friend, even if the moon goddess herself came down and told her to forgive you she most likely would deny and resist it. Your "goodwill" is kidnapping her and keeping her captive then bringing people around that she loathes or uses to respect. Mainly the first. She hates you, she hates you on a fundamental level just for being a dragon. She always has a low opinion of men and dragons are pretty much the personification of all of man's negative traits. Time does not heal all wounds, sometimes they fester and rot. And the longer lived you are, the more stubborn and set in your ways you become. Being nice to her isn't going to change the face that you are who you are and you kidnapped her. If you didn't do that though she'd never agree to being by your side, unless it was to stab you in the back. Like dude, I say this a lot, but she LOATHES you. There is never a possibility of you two ever getting along. One of you must break and Valzira is damn near unbreakable in her ideals.
Mae and Heloise were already tired of their endless servitude, they either denied it or just didn't know it. Mae is the most broken of the three elves because she was constantly sent out again and again against dragons, losing her elven strength and purity each time she lost. Which are basically their souls, I don't like to think about it but their existence really sucks. Their very beings are tied to the goddess of the moon and they aren't able to live freely.
The dragon is also kinda tragic to they extent that he can't really control himself and has to conquer, devour, and rule. He is a ravager (See what I did there?) by nature.
Mae already held doubts and contempt for her lot in life, but she continued to do it anyway because that was the only purpose she saw for herself. Heloise was deprived as well and both we constantly sent out like foot soldiers. We still don't know Val's full story, but based on all her interactions so far I don't get the impression she'll ever fall for us or tolerate us. I know you want them to like you and get all buddy-buddy with you but that would be like spitting in the face of the game and it's characters if she did. If there's anything this game does well is that it respects it's characters. All their actions and decisions make sense to the character. Like Mina who understands that it's a give-and-take with the dragon and she benefits more than the dragon does in that relationship. The dragon gets his dick wet but she gets to be a Countess of Bastion, if she gets impregnated she can just give the babies to someone like Marie-Anneoror or Enid to take care of. A lot of Consorts essentially have Stockholm syndrome because you treat them a lot better than you were. But make no mistake, you did either kidnap them or have them agree to be sex slaves after they lose everything (Mina with the mercs). Darja is the only exception but she's basically kinda off her rocker/intensely focused on her fantasies.
Of course, no one playing games like these wants to entertain those thoughts. I just understand the situation and enjoy this great game because it's great. The world of Ravager is cruel and there are worst fates than being locked up by a dragon who fancies you.
Pretty much this. The saying "You can't teach an old dog new tricks" did not come out of nowhere.
I see your point, although I still can’t help but hope for some sort of resolution to both their questlines that wouldn’t be so horrible.
As a final point, I will say this: I’m not asking for Valzira to turn into a “lovey-dovey wife” (although if the writers managed to pull it off convincingly, you won’t see me complaining) or anything like that; but when you say:
that makes me think it shouldn’t be impossible to get them to accept their new lot in life.
Moreover, on the note of the dragon being a natural conqueror: it’s one thing to impose one’s will on others through force, but (to me at least) it’s much more rewarding to persuade them—not only is it a bigger challenge, but it’s also preferable in the long term; a subject is always at risk of revolting, but an ally won’t jump at the first opportunity to turn traitor. I see being “kind” to harem members in much the same way: real harems were often rife with murder and other nasty side-effects of the plots for power that took place there; the dragon is possessive and insatiable, but he doesn’t have the time to deal with that shit: keeping harem members happy and fostering a sentiment of sisterhood among them means 1. no scheming behind his back, and 2. none of his trophies get murdered.
Or IDK, maybe I just watch too many kids’ cartoons …
“The power of friendship will save the day!”
I think it would be pretty boring and underwhelming if naho and valzira's entire purpose is be angry and get graped. Like if thats it for them why even keep them? its a storyline dead end and is a waste imo for these characters. Now im not saying I need valzira or naho to confess their love for the dragon and walk into the sunset but what I am saying is I want more from these characters then just walking into their room and being called a knob. Overall stuff is being set up for them least tolerating the dragons existence or even begrudgingly assisting them. Valzira being told off by marie-ann which exposes her hypocrisy and flaws in her logic and naho's interest in leading the wolf pack again.
P.S It would be pretty sick to see naho going to war with her new Wolf/dragon babies as her new pack getting her revenge on the wolf pack...just saying
P.P.S if valzira can't stop being a bitch I require and humbly beseech the great 4mw for the almighty dragon bitch slap feature as a good common ground for each side please and thank you.
P.S It would be pretty sick to see naho going to war with her new Wolf/dragon babies as her new pack getting her revenge on the wolf pack...just saying
P.P.S if valzira can't stop being a bitch I require and humbly beseech the great 4mw for the almighty dragon bitch slap feature as a good common ground for each side please and thank you.
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Whoa, virus?Replace the 5.0.7 launcher with the 5.0.6 one and you can play the game without Steam.
Nice name to use.
No wonder he can make, he was german.
No racist but... "YOU FOOL!!! GERMAN IS THE BEST OF THE WORLD!! EVEN SCIENCE CAN, WHY NOT TECHNOLOGY!!!"
Thx for reading, try to joke here.
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did you leave her with the caravan itself? you specifically need her to run away with what she can carry on her, but keep the caravan for yourself. if she has clothes, you get papers check. if she doesn't, you get the bandit gangbang
Oh thanks that worked, someone should update the Walkthrough it specifically says
"Let Mina leave with her things" and makes no mention of that just meaning that you don't strip her, in fact it also states "If you strip her and make her run away without her things" you get the bandit scene. I thought "her things" meant the Caravan
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If you're talking about non-kobold children so far yes
btw is it just me or is the console disabled (as in the devs disabled it far past config.console = False) for 5.0.7 to the point where UnRen doesn't work for that purpose anymore?
Yes, last time I played (like a year ago I think) it like auto chose some of the choices for you. It's been a while though, memory might be bad.