You can look at the guides in DS and cheese all the bosses quite easily, without gitting gud.
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It turned into black sludge and evaporated. The text doesn't mention Malice swallowing anything, it even says that she brushes away any sludge left sticking to her body.
I'll even copypaste the quote from the screenshot you posted earlier:
"Malice withdraws her fangs from Adeline's neck"
You're delusional if you think that is vore.
A dog biting you on the leg is vore too?
"Malice withdraws her fangs from Adeline's neck"
You're delusional if you think that is vore.
A dog biting you on the leg is vore too?
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There's a multitude of options and variations, of course you cant go through all of them in 1 go. I dont know what part of this surpises you. You arent meant to see everything in a game with this many choices, which actually matter. By their definition, making a choice, closes other venues. Which you are free to pursue in another playthrough. And thats a positive. Kinetic noves are effectively dead once they run their course. Variety is a good thing.
?? In what way is that important. Are you doing a full f95 ironman no-reload run of every game and this one happened to ruin your streak? What even is the problem here. Everything I wrote, i discovered through - prepare for the shocker - exploring the game. A concept that is seemingly alien to you.
No, what im actually telling you is that you learn the game by playing the game. A novel idea, I know.
No, you dont, because you still have to let go of X to get Y or Z. There is not a single choice sequence which lets you have everything, like *you* want it. And just like in life, to succeed you need to leverage your strengths and shore up your weaknesses.
The thread the needle aspect is only there if you absolutely refuse to let go of anything in the game. If you covet and hoard every single thing you can get, and wish to sacrifice nothing in return. An exceptionally greedy concept that runs against everything the game is meant to be.
And yet it is still possible to achieve.
You should be grateful that the game actually allows this. You *can* have your cake and eat it too, if you just put in the effort to discover how. Without a limitation like this one, the game is easily stompable, no contest.
No, *your* lazyness in trying to justify using cheats, in order to avoid putting actual thought in, is not an inherent fault within the game. Its all you, buddy.
Professional Clowns make $57000 a year and yet here you are doing it for free
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You can look at a guide for any game.
This does not address the fact that this game requires a guide.
Or so many replays to map it out that you write your own guide.
This is such a silly hill for you to die on.
You are so adamant about never losing an internet argument that you come up with the most ridiculous of explanations.
Right, the meat she was chewing evaporated from within her mouth because it did not explicitly say she swallowed it.
Yet it did not mention colored streams of gas coming out of her mouth either.
Nor any mention of her spitting out black sludge
Also at the time that body dropped from malice it was still recognizable enough as a body for "a neck" to be a thing, as well as a naked breast.
The evaporation happened later.
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Then be the better person and step away from this silly debate.
Otherwise you're just projecting.
Bruh. At this point, you're not even arguing about vore. You're nitpicking at semantics.
There's no vore in that scene. Malice bites Adeline's neck --> Adeline dies and her body evaporates. Nothing more, nothing less.
Just take an L.
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I am always willingly to admit when I am wrong.
But every word you speak just serves to further discredit your position.
You think that what transpired was
step 1: bite
step 2: chew
step 3: meat fully evaporates from within mouth without any mention of it (such as colored gas)
step 4: body drops to floor mostly intact. only missing the neck.
step 5: body turns to sludge
step 6: malice wipes sludge off clothes (but not from mouth)
step 7: sludge starts to evaporate into explicitly multicolored gas
You literally brought up additional points that only reinforce just how wrong you are.
And somehow imagine this makes you right.
To the point where you DEMAND that people "take the L"...
The fact you even view it in terms of "taking the L" shows how, to you, this is about winning and losing.
Malice bites the neck, and then releases said neck after injecting her poison. A normal snake bite.
You're so hilariously delusional, somehow seeing that as vore. Fucking clown.
That's a renpy game, dude. You can rollback at any time. And for the best ending (which you want) you have to work a little. Or play on power fantasy difficulty.
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Thank you for that academic debate on vore.
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Yes, you can reload and use rollback to make mapping easier.
Although rollback is limited on how far back you can rollback. you need to reload instead, although within a choice occasionally rollback can help you map the sub option faster.
You can freely reload as many times as you want to map out the whole game though so this is academic.
But rollback does not magically poof away the problem.
The issue remains that this is a game that requires you to completely map it out, writing down every single possible gain for every single option in every single encounter. As well as the requirements for each subchoice in each such encounter.
Then once you have collected all that data, bust open a spreadsheet and path a perfect route through it.
The perfect route still includes you failing some things, just have to be failing unimportant things.
That is if Decathet was even being fully honest in his claims about he was able to path a perfect route that required zero waifu sacrifice (vore or sharing) and only failed checks that "don't matter"
Realistically though a new player won't map every single option and then bust out the spreadsheet.
You will start mapping it out and then the vast majority either look up the walkthrough and/or enable godmode instead.
I dare say I probably did more work mapping then most people in this thread before finally giving up as it was an utter waste of my time.
Therefore I am confident in saying this is a game that heavily depends on a walkthrough.
There should be a setting between godmode and hellmode. A normal mode if you would. Where most people could reasonably triumph without having to use a walkthrough / write their own walkthrough.
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You're whining that a game is more complex than "Press X to win", and requires you to try picking different choices to see which are better than others.
Very true. I have reran this game experimenting with which is the best scenario multiple times. However, due to the fact the game isn't complete I don't think there is a win everything option even in power fantasy mode. Granted you are very correct that this game might be more complex and sometimes you just can't win them all.You're whining that a game is more complex than "Press X to win", and requires you to try picking different choices to see which are better than others.
Not my cup of tea as I like trying to find the "perfect power fantasy story", but seems like it could be the case. I can't make the warlock my counsel member without sacrificing Val, which also means I can't help Darja. It's a catch 22 trade off right now. Problem is I like all the characters except the princess, so I only have one sacrifice to barter with. And with the outcome I found today as what happens with helping Darja, a new monster girl potential with the princess makes me not want to sacrifice her fully in the future too if I do end up helping Darja.
Another example, I can't befriend Naho without making her a sex slave pet. I mean, she seems to kind of dig it, but I might be misreading it.
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I am confused. I loaded up my save from March and the game ended in like 5-10 min of content. What . . .. .
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harem.king dude, you do remember how your intial statement said the game requires no skill right? yet in that same post (or one shortly after it too lazy to care which) you say it requires a walkthough to which you start doubling down on after being proven wrong with someone's own home brew guide... you do see the irony here right? it's not completely lost on you is it? fuck around and find out then mapping for their personal taste in 'best run' on dark fantasy IS and does require skill. some people are inherently unable to do this as the impatient fucks they are. and tbh you've kinda been outing yourself as one of them... just saying.
can't you just up and admit you were wrong? considering how you got side tracked to getting in a vore argument (and still lost imo) i'm betting not.... but i'm not saying you have to praise the game and say it is without faults, just admit that you said something that was untrue and completely biased. lol
parts of things you've said is accurate as mapping IS required for the ideal run on dark fantasy. but you don't 'have' to do it. and enjoy-ability is subjective. and the devs threw in power fantasy mode for people with your particular tastes and lack of mapping skills. so for all things unholy, either recant or hush child. pick one, you can't have your way with internet debates like you can in power fantasy mode bro.
can't you just up and admit you were wrong? considering how you got side tracked to getting in a vore argument (and still lost imo) i'm betting not.... but i'm not saying you have to praise the game and say it is without faults, just admit that you said something that was untrue and completely biased. lol
parts of things you've said is accurate as mapping IS required for the ideal run on dark fantasy. but you don't 'have' to do it. and enjoy-ability is subjective. and the devs threw in power fantasy mode for people with your particular tastes and lack of mapping skills. so for all things unholy, either recant or hush child. pick one, you can't have your way with internet debates like you can in power fantasy mode bro.
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facepalm...
billy... do you think grinding is a skill? mapping is similar to grinding in that it is labor rather than skill. A chore.
the walkthrough lets you skip that labor.
If a skillless individual uses a walkthrough on this game on his first playthrough and adheres to the walkthrough he will get the best results on the first attempt. because there is no skill involved.
If that same unskilled individual tries to play dark souls with a walkthrough, he is going to die many times to the bosses until/unless he develops the skills necessary to execute the walkthrough's instructions.
Take the worlds most skilled gamers and let them play ravager. They will fail to achieve good results (all waifus acquired and safe. progressed on time. good results on conquest. etc) on their first attempt so long as they are not using walkthrough, because no amount of skill can help you when you are flying blind.
Instead, you have to do is pick between:
a. cheat with god mode
b. cheat with walkthrough
c. spent an extreme amount of time mapping all paths.
This game is simply a mapping chore.
Can't YOU admit you are wrong? You are clearly in the wrong here and yet you don't admit it, why not?
Me personally? I always admit I am wrong when I am actually wrong.
But this time I am correct. it happens.
I have to say that Ravager is a fucking amazing game but yeah, at no point does it interact in any way with 'skill'. It isn't unique in that regard, the vast majority of 'find your own path' porn games don't have any mechanical interaction involving player skill, they're just large webs of trial and error that can occasionally be predicted with a bit of critical thought. Ravager is not even one of those, you're gonna either use a guide to get to the content you want or use trial and error until you like what is happening. The vast majority of porn games in general do not involve any form of skill, it's unusual when they do.
Having said that, Ravager is not a particularly complex game. The trial and error you need to get what you want can be achieved within the span of an hour or two at most. Its web of choices really isn't that big and largely involves a bunch of fairly unrelated binary decisions, leaving it to be a fairly simple but enjoyable experience. It's good, but call it what it is.
I do also play on power fantasy mode though, as trying to balance all your stats and still get a good outcome is tedious and rather unfun. You get stretched very thin and it all just becomes a chore of gradual trial and error until you can squeeze out a path in which you get what you want without being forced to sacrifice something you don't want to. For a casual, shorter porn game, it just doesn't feel that optimized, and feels much more enjoyable when you can ignore that entire system.
Having said that, Ravager is not a particularly complex game. The trial and error you need to get what you want can be achieved within the span of an hour or two at most. Its web of choices really isn't that big and largely involves a bunch of fairly unrelated binary decisions, leaving it to be a fairly simple but enjoyable experience. It's good, but call it what it is.
I do also play on power fantasy mode though, as trying to balance all your stats and still get a good outcome is tedious and rather unfun. You get stretched very thin and it all just becomes a chore of gradual trial and error until you can squeeze out a path in which you get what you want without being forced to sacrifice something you don't want to. For a casual, shorter porn game, it just doesn't feel that optimized, and feels much more enjoyable when you can ignore that entire system.
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