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Heresiarch

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Been near half a decade since I last looked at this game. Just wondering, are we nearing a final release? Or are we still patching up, expanding character arcs and finishing Act 5?
 

GrandPaBrowning

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Without going thru the original post and artwork a second time, I honestly couldn't recall... but the rest of them were, in many cases, marriage material in my eyes. I remember one had a dome-shaped head sitting on a throne, the other was just not quite my thing (but could be if she was a sweetheart to me).

As for your writing, heck, I've seen far worse (cringier) here and plenty other places. I wouldn't sweat that were I you.

PS, love the Heckapoo avatar.
Sweetheart, you say? Well, some of them could definitely qualify. I am more of... futadom painal non-con connoisseur, but sweethearts are... Well, they are sweet, for starters. Just imagine those big powerful arms hugging you, while she pushed her horsedick up your Sorry, force of habit.

Glad to hear my writing wasn't a total cringe, ha-ha.

P.S. Guilty as charged! I'm a huge fan of SVTFOE in general and Heka in particular. You can say I... hecka-like her, heh. Anyway, she's hecka-cool and is the best shortstack. Yes, some choose yordles from LoL or impified Midna, plebeians go for green cuties, but I know better.

I know Heka!
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TowerEpik

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...? you came to this game with the knowledge that it is a fantasy medieval setting, and eldritch deers seal the deal??? not ... idk the sunken temple?
anywho this is very close minded, and you prob shouldn't be here ngl.
doesn't make it less silly, its make believe so you can come up with whatever you want but it doesn't explain why would you do that. you could turn everyone into farts and rainbows but what for? at least the sunken temple is cool, your typical lovecraftian shtick
 

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It all comes from lore reveals in Act5.
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Also, Issa cares about minimizing devastation and harm to humans. And practically begs the dragon to not produce any more kobolds (event somewhere in act 3 or 4, I don't remember). He clearly disdains kobolds, and wants his own kind to die.
 
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You can't really trust a whole chunk of your captives. Not just Issa.

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Now maybe you're getting all this from the new update? Haven't gotten around to playing it myself. So what I say could be completely off so feel free to correct me. But I have to somewhat disagree with some of these.

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Then again who knows. The greatest betrayals are from those you least expect. Have my doubts but eh.
 

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It all comes from lore reveals in Act5.
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Also, Issa cares about minimizing devastation and harm to humans. And practically begs the dragon to not produce any more kobolds (event somewhere in act 3 or 4, I don't remember). He clearly disdains kobolds, and wants his own kind to die.
Man I haven't played this game in a long while, I remember liking most things but now things seem tad unhinged and I'm not sure if I should play if I'll just get angry about it but on the other hand I also want to see it for myself even if its not a healthy thing to do. There's lots I could rant on about but I think I'll stop here since I doubt anyone cares.
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Now maybe you're getting all this from the new update? Haven't gotten around to playing it myself. So what I say could be completely off so feel free to correct me. But I have to somewhat disagree with some of these.

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Then again who knows. The greatest betrayals are from those you least expect. Have my doubts but eh.
Agreed with most of this, the cat girls are kind of insane if you think about it too. You get abducted by a dragon, what do you do, you lube up your sister??? This game has a weird theme where a lot of the captives end up liking being in their position despite the rapey circumstances around it, and not in some sort of weird stockholm syndrome sort of thing but actually wanting to participate in this deviancy because its fun. I mean, maybe I would do the same if a nice dragon captured me, but the frequency in which this happens with the various captives is too funny when you notice it.
 
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YouShallNotLol

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Now maybe you're getting all this from the new update? Haven't gotten around to playing it myself. So what I say could be completely off so feel free to correct me. But I have to somewhat disagree with some of these.
I'm going purely off of what I've seen in the game. I might have interpreted some dialogues in a different way than intended, but I'm only human.

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Then again who knows. The greatest betrayals are from those you least expect. Have my doubts but eh.
I may as well be paranoid, but I've played enough VNs to see the signs of betrayal from a mile away.
I unironically trust Valzira way more than I trust anyone else among the captives.
 

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I'm going purely off of what I've seen in the game. I might have interpreted some dialogues in a different way than intended, but I'm only human.

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I may as well be paranoid, but I've played enough VNs to see the signs of betrayal from a mile away.
I unironically trust Valzira way more than I trust anyone else among the captives.
I don't think its too wise to take everything Valzira says as literally true. She first and foremost hates you, so she will say anything to hurt you, it doesn't matter if there's any truth in it or not. There might be betrayal somewhere, but when you look for it everywhere it seems like the point of her is to deny you any kind of sense of safety and security, that nobody loves you, you're ugly, etc etc. It doesn't seem like a good way for the story to go where half your waifus betray you but who knows.
 

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Been near half a decade since I last looked at this game. Just wondering, are we nearing a final release? Or are we still patching up, expanding character arcs and finishing Act 5?
There seems to be a lot of Act 5 still to go, so I think that we are probably at least a year away from the final release.
 
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YouShallNotLol

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I don't think its too wise to take everything Valzira says as literally true. She first and foremost hates you, so she will say anything to hurt you, it doesn't matter if there's any truth in it or not. There might be betrayal somewhere, but when you look for it everywhere it seems like the point of her is to deny you any kind of sense of safety and security, that nobody loves you, you're ugly, etc etc. It doesn't seem like a good way for the story to go where half your waifus betray you but who knows.
Oh, believe me, I don't trust everything Valzira says. But usually her commentary rings painfully close to the truth.

And, well, there's the other half of waifus that learn to unconditionally love the dragon, and never even think of bertaying him. :KEK:
Enid best wife. ;)
 

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Oh, believe me, I don't trust everything Valzira says. But usually her commentary rings painfully close to the truth.

And, well, there's the other half of waifus that learn to unconditionally love the dragon, and never even think of betraying him.
Enid best wife. :KEK:
I think Valzira is way too disconnected from the truth, she's just boiling with rage, perception too clouded by arrogance. Almost everyone else tries to find some way to improve their conditions, genuine or not it makes sense to be nice to the big dragon, but she is almost taunting you to just kill her, I think most of her words are just a poison pill because she cannot harm you physically but can fuck with you mentally. If she was really clear headed she would play the same manipulative game she accuses Heloise of, but she doesn't so she just comes across as a lunatic.

As for rest of the waifus, thats exactly why they also could be perfect candidates for a traitor, they would never be suspected. Dragons are evil so pretty much all of them have a good reason to do it, but I think it boils down to the fact they simply don't want to, dragons are cool and you have hot kinky sex and nothing else matters because this game bends logic to its needs whenever it wants anyways, all of them should be dead from that schlong aside from the elves maybe.
 
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GrandPaBrowning

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Lemme add a few nickels.

Valzira may be too full of rage and hate to care about deception. Yes, it also clouds her judgement, but I suspect she's beyond lies now. Granted, whatever she says is warped - but not by an attempt to deceive you. IIRC, even during the stupidest gameover of granting her freedom after conquest she tells you she will fuck you up before you release her.

Malice is an interesting - and VERY cute cookie. INSERTING MALICE PIC NOW!
Malice - rowdy teen.jpg
Ahem. So, I think that in terms of thinking she is somewhere between eldritch and fae - classical fae that is: unpredictable and capricious, less malicious and more on their own wave (which still makes them incredibly dangerous). Eldritch part comes in form of her plans and motives potentially being so far out there there is practically no way of predicting or, perhaps, even understanding them. She is insanely powerful capricious otherworldly entity who break reality just by being around. She may even have no plans or that her plans are so eldritch there is no point explaining, or that she's just messing with her dad by not telling.
No real way to tell anything for sure, really.

Regarding cat sisters - no, their fights are no play. Its very clear once you see their Sunken Temple scene. There is conflict between them, it's just buried very deep.


And final nickel would be Issa.

No, he's probably not saying "we" in regal sense - otherwise, why he always self-correct when he does that? Maybe there is some very specific reason of him not wanting to show his higher status, but there is no hints and no threads to pull. At the moment, this is empty supposition.

The other reason to speak that way, the possession, does not have direct proofs either. His body smells of heat - granted, its a hint at demonic, the only faction associated with heat - and petrichor - or, speaking plainly, that specific smell of dirt after the rain. The first smell hints at demons, the other... No idea, really. His blood emits no smell, but seems acrid - what that suppose to hint at, I also have no idea. Blurring over his corpse may hint at something incorporeal leaving it - or just a shimmer of heated air.

In combination, it may hint either at demon leaving his form or some kind of magi-chemical release. Given that Malagar is Valzira's pupil and knowing both what he's up to and that Valzira made Issa the way he is, its not hard to imagine such release being some kind of after-effect of the procedures done on Issa.

However, I think it's demon possession. Why? The whole scene is built to highlight those details, to hint at something. There is no narrative reason to hint at magical influence over Issa's form, since we know it already in most direct way possible - we were told he was modified by magic. If devs tried to hint at something, it must be something we did not know already, hence there would be no reason to hint. So, we can reasonably discount it being magical effect. Possession, on the other hand, would explain bot the effects and strange plural when referring to self.

But that raises a question. FUCKHUEG one at that! Why demon?

IIRC, they are our natural allies - sun creatures, same as Dragon. I think, in very technical sense, Dragon kinda is a powerful demonic entity himself - or at least someone related.

Why would a demon plot against Dragon? Or did he?..

Valzira tells us he's about to do something catastrophically bad. Valzira is, amongst other thing, moon being, the opposite side of this divine conflict. "Something catastrophically bad" in her eyes may mean a lot of things - and not necessarily: "he's plotting against you!". It may as well be: "he's going to open hellgates!" or something.

Or even if he is plotting against you, what would his motives be? He seems possessive, which begs into suspicion a possibility of unrequited affection. What if some kind of demon got all drooly about his scaled cousin and went yandere-mode?

Honestly, I am at a loss of suggestions.
 
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