There can be no such thing, since which lair you choose for the dragon affects which scenes will be available.
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There is nothing Jabba the Hutt about her Deer form. That is what a well fed & pregnant deer looks like when it's laying down and compressing it's side.
While this may sound insane by Porn Game standards, most narratives do not give a shit what the audience think. If you put down every book when a character you like dies than I can only imagine how few books you manage to get through.
If Malice is your #1 girl there is a path for you.
If Heliose is your #1 girl there is a path for you.
If Marie-Anne is your #1 girl there is a path for you(or two if you like deer).
Being unhappy that you can't get every girl to do exactly what you want them to do is short sighted.
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You only address point A while pretending all the other points don't exist.
Where in the game did it tell you that you will get malice / cataclysm from elf fucking? nowhere, this is spoilers and metagaming.
Where in the game did it tell you that taking malice will mean that much much much later you will suddenly lose Marie-Anne? Nowhere. spoilers and metagaming.
You expect people to be time travellers from the future who read the wiki in full before playing a game.
And then call them "short sighted" for both not doing so in advance and also for wanting a complete harem.
At least when you sacrificed a girl to the deep ones, hell, or wizard then it told you upfront you will be sacrificing a girl to them. It told you which girl will be sacrificed. And it let you choose whether to sacrifice her or not.
And you either hadn't had her for long, or had not even gotten her yet.
Making it an upfront choice.
Finally. This is explicitly a harem game. I know a thing or two about harem games.
I can absolutely say that it is a bad choice for a harem game to force you lose some girls by surprise for flimsy justifications.
You might not agree, and its ok, you are allowed to have blatantly wrong opinions.
Where in the game did it tell you you get to control everything that happens?
Where in ANY store does the writer tell you they will change the narrative to fit your whims?
I don't expect anyone to know what is going to happen in a story. That is why we keep reading/watching. We want to see what happens.
It's not a harem game. It's a Dragon harem game with shockingly in-depth and consistent narrative/lore.
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You know you can have multiple saves right? i have had like 30 saves testing out different routes before. it's just a lot of work.
This kind of applies to almost every harem member, to an extent. There's very little corruption/manipulation allowed by the devs so instead we have to settle for brutally disfiguring, mind deletion or transformations we have no say or interest in.
Probably is by far the least fun thing about the game.
Your request led me into the rabbit hole.
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I get this error:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.
While running game code:
File "renpy/common/00start.rpy", line 287, in script
python:
ScriptError: could not find label 'start'.
Would appreciate any help from anyone in getting it to run :'))
The game is about being a dragon, you rape whoever you like, you conquer, you establish your will with violence. This is literally like the hook of the entire game. Hell, even one of the difficulty settings is "Power Fantasy".
That's a strawman. It's not about "changing the narrative", people just want more options.
Sure, the problem is "what happens" wasn't good. It didn't have to turn out this way at all, but it did and you can't do anything about it once you get to that point.
It's not a harem game...but it's a harem game? Listen to yourself, this is absurd. Game has a wide appeal, just look at the tags, you can't just take your perspective on it and shove it into everyone else's face. People have different tastes and its really rude to force some of them onto those that didn't ask for it.
Yet even in the Power Fantasy you are denied the opportunity to couple with the Maid/Adeline in the beginning. Will die if you stay and fight the guards and fail to defeat Sabetha and Inej if you attack them. So again, where in the narrative did the game tell you the story will do everything you want?
It's not a strawman. We are simply arguing different points of merit and failing to agree.
Well lets just throw that argument right back at you. People have different tastes and it's really rude to force some of them onto those who didn't ask for it.
Don't like Deer Marie Anne? Don't engage with it. Don't deny those who do the ability to.
and yes it's the only Dragon Harem game I am aware of, so it gets to have it's own set of rules and stipulations without having to fall into the trap all the others have.
This is not entirely correct, in Power Fantasy you have to go out of your way to get killed, it's not something that happens by accident, you essentially die on purpose.
It is a strawman because you misrepresent what is actually being asked of here. This isn't a book, there is no one set path, just many branches and when playing you tailor your experience to that. It's about having more choices, more control, over your story, not changing it.
You literally cannot. Do you think people chose "yeah turn her into a deer" just to get mad on purpose? Only way to prevent this is to not have Malice, but what if you want Malice but don't want all this crazy shit happening? You have no such option.
What's a dragon got to do with whether its a harem or not? It makes no fucking difference! It's still a harem game about boinking people! I don't think you understand what genres and tropes are, they aren't "traps", they are the mechanism by which the story is structured around, and having your love interests get transformed against your will runs contrary to the core appeal of the game.
Indeed, but the poster I was replying to asked for "a full save", and I doubt that they would want to be offered 30 - or even 3 - different saves. From their request it sounded like they didn't understand the nature of the game. They may have assumed that, because it's made in Renpy, that it's a VN with essentially one path, whereas it's actually a true game.
But it can happen. So much for Power Fantasy by the logic you presented earlier.
Even in a choose your adventure book or opened ended game there is a very finite limit to the options presented. Those options are limited by what the creator put in place. I used books and writer as the example as it's the most direct comparison to a Visual Novel but that fact does not change regardless the form of Media chosen. The Creator chooses the story path(s) and the audience engages it, limited by what was put before them.
I agree. If Malcie or Heliose is your favorite character then Deerie-Anne is an unfortunate casualty. It's not any different then missing Malygar Content because you choose Sunken Temple. It's a narrative choice by the creators. It's not a case of being unable to understand why people don't want their waifu to turn into a form no longer attractive. It's a case of not being able to understand why people want a plot so predictable and boring.
Because a Dragon changes the power structure and relationship structure heavily. In a way even King/Emperor style Harems can not do. A Dragon does not have the same kind of relationship expectations with a Harem.
So yes, it is a meaningful distinction.
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Huh? No... they escape if you push them too hard (any dialogue option with "Strength" or "charm" after it), otherwise they're with you for life... and inej's dragon-cat babies are kinda cute.
Yeah, its why I asked a few posts earlier.. My instincts are telling me to kill him. The way he acts, the things hes been scurrying around behind everyone's backs. The way he talks to Valria like she be a useful tool for him. But if he has a storyline and most of his actions are a misconception or mabye hes just bad at it or prone with mistakes. I would rather see it play out. Im not really sure how we even go so close to begin with.. as far as I was aware, he was just another Kobold that looked diferent because he was engineered. I didnt even know he was classed as a captive like your other girls ?
I remember in the dream. She mentions she got her body and looks from her mother, but her strength, personality and motives/dires were from her daddy. So I did expect she be alot like you ? a daddies girl :3
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It doesn't help that you basically HAD to bang an elf for years if you wanted new content. You lose SO MUCH by not fucking an elf. In fact you lose like THREE love interests worth of content if you DON'T fuck an elf.
Also the game at times just straight up tells you "NO" to things for no real reason. Best example is the guy who tells you you can't make a law saying you have multiple wives, despite the fact you are a totalitarian dictator dragon. Change our religion, make us slaves, let wolfmen rape us, cripple us with taxes. TWO wives though? Absolutely horrendous I will die on the spot for this.
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Pretty much mainly him just being way smarter then a normal kobold yeah, also looks (if we are looking out of game he is there to satisfy the niche of a trap) Would have killed him myself the way he acts but well I like femboys and I cant lie, and he is the only one in the game so
