Real sex vs. Porn sex

[215303j]

One thing that sometimes annoys me is that the sex in these games is more like the sex you find in porn movies rather than the sex you are likely to have in Real Life.

Some examples:

- Women never show any discomfort despite the guy having a 30cm+ dick

- Virgins are generally able to deepthroat said 30cm+ dick, at least on the second try

- Women never spit cum or just refuse that you cum in her mouth

- Anal sex is always completely clean

- Anal sex never requires lube or stretching, you can just stick it in

- Guys never lose their erection

- And obviously all guys have 30cm+ dicks

Etc. etc.

While I get that games are not supposed to be 100% realistic, I do think that more attention to the realities of sex can provide a better story.

 

[fitgirlbestgirl]

I guess it depends on what you want. I don't think more realism makes everything better automatically. A lot of the things you mention would just annoy me. I don't play adult games to play the riveting story of a guy with erectile dysfunction and his trials and tribulations.

That being said I do tend to like games more that at least make an effort to not be totally ridiculous. I think some realism is fine, up to a point. I personally cringe at the dick sizes in some games. Nothing wrong with the MC having a big dick, but some games go so far that even porn stars wouldn't be able to compare.

And hey, I'm all for dirty anal, but some people would be put off by that, so most devs won't put that into their game. There's a reason 90% of games are so painfully vanilla and even minor kinks are put behind warnings and options to skip them.

 

[kytee]

If by more realistic you mean more foreplay and longer sex scenes then sure. I'm not really for bloody virgins, girls on their periods, or shitty anal sex. I want the glorified version of "realistic" sex.

 

[polywog]

why not both?

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[polywog]

I guess it depends on what you want. I don't think more realism makes everything better automatically. A lot of the things you mention would just annoy me. I don't play adult games to play the riveting story of a guy with erectile dysfunction and his trials and tribulations.

That being said I do tend to like games more that at least make an effort to not be totally ridiculous. I think some realism is fine, up to a point. I personally cringe at the dick sizes in some games. Nothing wrong with the MC having a big dick, but some games go so far that even porn stars wouldn't be able to compare.

And hey, I'm all for dirty anal, but some people would be put off by that, so most devs won't put that into their game. There's a reason 90% of games are so painfully vanilla and even minor kinks are put behind warnings and options to skip them.

painfully vanilla? A lot of adult games are "spin-offs" of mainstream games, anime, movies, stories, etc.
all games should, in my opinion, have a version on steam, itunes, google... so the devs can make money.
the adult content added as a premium, DLC, or mod.

 

[215303j]

I don't play adult games to play the riveting story of a guy with erectile dysfunction and his trials and tribulations.

I think it should not be about the MC's erectile dysfunction, but e.g. in Intimate Relations, the MC is finally planning to bang his *ahem* tenant. He has rented a nice hotel room, decorated it for the big event etc. Then he's so nervous he can't get it up. That scene got a bit of hate in the thread, but I think it was brilliant from a story point of view. In the end their first time together is in the office bathroom... I like that. A story should not be on rails.

And hey, I'm all for dirty anal, but some people would be put off by that, so most devs won't put that into their game. There's a reason 90% of games are so painfully vanilla and even minor kinks are put behind warnings and options to skip them.

Yeah. I'm not into scat as such but the dirty part is part of the appeal. There are reasons why anal is kinda "taboo" and why not everybody is doing it all the time.

If by more realistic you mean more foreplay and longer sex scenes then sure.

Not sure if that is what I meant, but I do agree with that.

 

[jamdan]

I get what you mean, but porn sex and sex in these games are meant to be fantasy. If it was realistic, it'd get in the way of the fantasy.

The only thing in the examples that could be done away with is the 30 CM dicks, thats 12 inches. A lot of MC's are that large, but in porn the largest aren't even 10 inches. Mandingo (probably the largest) is like 9.75 inches. They work the angle and do closeups to make them appear bigger. But in games, its harder (no pun intended) to work with smaller dicks due to clipping and that sort of thing and a lot of the default models are huge and its difficult to resize them.

The other stuff; dirty anal, loss of erection, is probably in some specific fetish porn but in the mainstream it would't be popular. While the rest gets in the way of the fantasy.

 

[woody554]

if that's your fantasy, why not.

some of those things bother me, like the lack of lube (and generally rendering the pussy like it was dry as sandpaper) or the virgings both being too retarded to how to masturbate or what a dick is AND yet are deepthroating like a boss 5 seconds later. I don't mind a 30cm dick but the 70cm ones make me want to delete the game right there.

what I don't miss is shit in anal or erectile dysfunction (unless it makes sense with the writing, like a douchebag not getting it up or maybe even as a sign of trying to fuck someone you don't care about).

but I've seen enough of these polls to know our tastes are WILDLY differing and all over the place. there is no consensus when you go to any level of detail.

 

[Ataios]

Real sex is for real life. There is reason why sex isn't realistic in porn movies and games alike. In real sex, the visual impression for outsiders is irrelevant, as long as the feelings are right. Porn sex is created for visual and narrative impression only. Realistic depictions don't arouse anyone, really.

So, in porn games I want to see lesbian porn sex, I want to see straight milfs seduced by mysterious lesbian strangers, no matter how unrealistic that is. I want to see women wear sexy dresses, high heels and stockings in situations no one would wear that stuff in real life.

Personally I don't want to see any guys (or futa) and therefore no dicks either. In the rare cases I play male MC games though, there is nothing I could mind less than the size of his dick.

 

[polywog]

some of those things bother me, like the lack of lube (and generally rendering the pussy like it was dry as sandpaper)

This is a good point. Some girls today don't know how to work their vaginas, and or they unwittingly take medications that dry up their junk. I haven't experienced this personally, girls I date are usually dripping 60 seconds after we meet, but I've read where it's a problem in some relationships. Cold and allergy meds that dry up sinuses, dry up other things too.

 

[Adabelitoo]

I get what you mean, but porn sex and sex in these games are meant to be fantasy. If it was realistic, it'd get in the way of the fantasy.

I agree with this. This games are just fantasy and a lot of people (inmersive players) play these games for that reason, they won't have to deal with real life issues, everything will be pleasent for them and they'll escape from reality, at least for a few minutes.

I wouldn't mind seeing those things in a game, it wouldn't turn me off (it wouldn't turn me on either) but if we talk about more realism, I would prefer to see more realism in the story and the interectations with the characters than in the sex scenes.

My "biggest" problem with the lack of realism in these games and porn in general is that a lot of players never had sex and they're still teenager, so they think this is actually how sex in real life is.

 

[215303j]

I get what you mean, but porn sex and sex in these games are meant to be fantasy. If it was realistic, it'd get in the way of the fantasy.

Perhaps, but the difference between porn games and porn movies is that in games they generally take a lot more time with events leading up to sex. In my opinion this ties in very well with realistic anal sex because that will generally also take quite a bit of preparation, especially if the guy has a fairly large dick. But in these games, the MC generally spends a lot of time to get the girl to have vaginal sex with him (e.g. in v0.9) and then the anal is added as a sort of afterthought (e.g. in v0.11)

The other stuff; dirty anal, loss of erection, is probably in some specific fetish porn but in the mainstream it would't be popular. While the rest gets in the way of the fantasy.

That's the strange thing in my opinion. It is somehow made to be a weird fetish but it actually isn't. Most games feature anal sex at some point. You simply cannot have anal sex without stretching, lube and either a bit of shit or an enema (or a lot of luck).

I specifically do NOT mean gaping or scat, which are both things i'm not into.

Yet it seems as if you can't portray a pretty normal sex act (e.g. anal sex) without getting into some fairly extreme fetishes which very few people are into IRL.

It is the same as sex without any form of foreplay. Women generally get off on the foreplay more than on the actual penetration. It does not mean that quickies don't exist, but I think they are relatively rare.

In real sex, the visual impression for outsiders is irrelevant, as long as the feelings are right. Porn sex is created for visual and narrative impression only. Realistic depictions don't arouse anyone, really.

This is a good point but I think some additional realism does help the narrative a lot.

if we talk about more realism, I would prefer to see more realism in the story and the interectations with the characters than in the sex scenes.

Good point but unfortunately off topic
But I do think more realistic depiction of sex also increases the realism in the interactions and the story in general.

 

[polywog]

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[caLTD]

Games make things un complicated.

Like GTA...

 

[polywog]

Games make things un complicated.

Like GTA...

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[おい！]

Considering the vast majority of games are not based on real life, stories/situations etc.... why should the sex be like real life?
They are porn games and are meant to be fiction, if devs chose to take the real life route with their games, I am sure people would moan about it. At the end of the day most devs want to make money on what they do, so if unrealistic sex brings in the money, why should they change the formula?

 

[Dars]

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[215303j]

Considering the vast majority of games are not based on real life, stories/situations etc.... why should the sex be like real life?

Because it would, in my opinion at least, more interesting.
I think most people don't play games to see people fuck.

Porn movies are way more efficient to get to the good stuff as fast as possible.

So the reason why games are better is the narrative.
Which sometimes annoys the hell out of me because it's lazy, amateurish and I assume often written by a teenage boy in his moms attic.
See the OP for some examples.

For example, if your kink is corruption, then having the virgin love interest deepthroating you at the first blowjob is not that interesting. The realistic approach (lot's of practice) is much more erotic. And when, after careful manipulation, she finally agrees to swallow your cum, it's a victory, not a matter-of-fact "everybody does it" (in porn).

Games have much more potential (and need) for a good narrative compared to porn movies where people just want to skip to the good bits.

At the end of the day most devs want to make money on what they do, so if unrealistic sex brings in the money, why should they change the formula?

I think most devs aren't getting exactly rich by what they are doing.
Some manage a basic income but I think for the majority it is just a (marginally paid) hobby.
The money is (or can be) in porn movies.
And some devs get lucky (Icstor) or simply better than most (Eva Kiss).

 

[Adabelitoo]

When you say games have much more potential, have you seen on the game threads and how many people moan about grind in some games(a)(b) or asking for full saves(c) of the latest update. Do you really think those people are really worried about story lines or build up?

As a player and a dev, I think you're confusing things and missing something important.

The people from (a) isn't always trying to go for a quick fap, some of them are actually playing the game or at least trying it but there're some grind fest game which makes it hard to enjoy something that would be great without the humongous grinding wall.

Those who only want the quick fap (b) and those who ask for full save (c) are the people you mention, the "players" that won't care story lines or build up, but here's the thing you're missing: Nobody develops a game for those "players".
Think about it, a dev creates a story, characters, events, etc. A dev creates "an entire world" to say it somehow, but no, those players won't care about and skip everything until they get the scene they wanted. Why would a dev care about them? If that was the case then a dev could skip the entire work I mentioned before and just do a big gallery of random sex scenes.

These games, as a way to do porn, are super inneficient. I honestly don't understand why those "players" are here instead of XVideos or PornHub. The selling point of these games are the stories ,the characters, the worlds. So yeah, better narrative would be a great thing for any game here.

 

[Callowayaway]

Porn games aren't just a super inefficient way to get easy porn, they're also a super inefficient way to tell a story. People play porn games because they're interactive. If they wanted a story then they'd read a vn or a doujin, just like if they wanted porn they'd watch pornhub.