Realistic Incest Plots

[89tasker]

It's currently the most popular genre, but it seems many writers just don't know how to write it. With the exception of some rare examples, they all involve the same unrealistic plot of two people eventually jumping each other upon discovering the other had interesting body parts.

After playing so many of these games, what is the F95zone community's idea of a realistic plot?

FYI: I'm thinking of developing a game, but always hit that wall where I yell at myself; "even I don't believe this shit can happen!"

 

[89tasker]

These are some things I think should be answered within the story:

What was the relationship history
How did the attraction first occur
How reluctant were the people involved (about their own feelings on incest)
Was the trigger a single event or multiple subtle changes
How did they find out about the attraction
Did they fight it (upon discovering their relatives' feelings towards them)
Who initiated first contact
What is the power dynamic
What pushed them to cross the boundary
Who controls the frequency of the encounters
How far would they go to keep it a secret
Who else knows

 

[CobraSGT]

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[RobJoy]

Realistic plots are so rare and basically non existent, it is laughable.

Due to our social structure, incest is not tolerated on any level, and we are preconditioned since we are little kids.

Also in the span of years, growing up, siblings do all sorts of nasty stuff to one another. So sister does NOT think of her brother in that way. EVER.
Also no mother is THAT sexy. Unless she had a child when she was 14. LOL

So it is not realistic to expect any good "boner inducing" incest story is going on.
Usually there is a rapist father, not a horny brother that sits on top of all incest today in the world.

So not very interesting at all.

How these stories are written by the devs here, is exactly how sometimes such things go up in your mind if you are a sibling, or a father and have a sexy daughter, or son sees his mom is still sexy... etc.

But all of this is in ones mind, and you would never act out this fantasy in the real world. Confined to personal thoughts when horny, or dreams even. It stays there.

So writing a realistic story here is unrealistic.

 

[Adoringfan]

@89tasker I think you might have chosen the wrong word with realistic, @RobJoy is kinda right, as incest is not very realistic or common in modern society. Sure cases happen periodically, but they usually tend to deal with parents and children or siblings being separated at birth and when they are reunited they mistake their kinship for attraction. So if you are looking for realism you will be sorely disappointed more times than not. The correct word, I think, is plausible. Does the story make enough sense or is this just another click and fuck adventure? @CobraSGT suggested Dreaming of Dana, and I agree completely, it has one of the most pragmatic approaches to, how to incest relationship, of any game in the genre. Even though the story is out there, it's plausible in how everything unfolds and ultimately Ptolemy has managed to craft one of the most realistic relationships of any game out there.

 

[pb03]

I dunno any games that are realistic. I find Dreaming of Dana to be really ridiculous and implausible. I guess for me Thinking about you seems more plausible as there is a back story before things start and kinda says things started long before the story did.

Too true what has been already said, and i think most "incest" starts as father sexually abuses child or children. not really a happy ending there. I did know someone that at a young age the sister used to strip for the brother, but they were kids and I don't know if that went farther. So idk if you can create a realistic game that would be acceptable. Just cuz some of us play the games doesn't mean we want it in real life. On the otherhand making a plausible story line may be doable but it needs a lot of back story and explanation to make it more believable.

 

[Vibescu]

You talk as if it were only possible to make dramas with incest. I often miss the sense of humor in those stories.

Sorry for my bad english.

 

[Onysko]

Honestly, I don't think it's that hard to write a realistic incest story.
It just requires the writer to give it emotional depth and history, because context is what makes it real. In simpler words - the story will need to be significantly longer, which makes it harder to keep it sexy throughout the plot.
But it does leave room for a more subtly built eroticism, which goes unappreciated in the porn games category. As most player prefer constant arousal and instant sex.

An example that comes close to being that way is Ethan's Legacy. While the story itself is unrealistic (super powers and all that), the nature of the family can be considered realistic in the world's context, the attraction grew out of prolonged intimacy between the 3 members of the family. A sense of danger and loneliness brought them closer and on top of that, there's of course Ethan's powers which lingered within him and probably had an amplified effect on the others over time.

Realism is relative to the story's context and can be logical as long as the elements are fleshed out and though-out. A BDSM incest story can be as much as realistic as a romantic one. Like any other porn game plot, incest is just an added layer to it that adds a sense of taboo or a more complex form of sexual fantasies.

 

[Cheryl]

I think that seduction is the key. Daughter decides to take care of Daddy. She seduces him, relaxes him until he cannot resist. DMD from the daughter's viewpoint except she makes the decisions. Slowly falling in love with him until she gets him

 

[Cheryl]

Honestly, I don't think it's that hard to write a realistic incest story.
It just requires the writer to give it emotional depth and history, because context is what makes it real. In simpler words - the story will need to be significantly longer, which makes it harder to keep it sexy throughout the plot.
But it does leave room for a more subtly built eroticism, which goes unappreciated in the porn games category. As most player prefer constant arousal and instant sex.

An example that comes close to being that way is Ethan's Legacy. While the story itself is unrealistic (super powers and all that), the nature of the family can be considered realistic in the world's context, the attraction grew out of prolonged intimacy between the 3 members of the family. A sense of danger and loneliness brought them closer and on top of that, there's of course Ethan's powers which lingered within him and probably had an amplified effect on the others over time.

Realism is relative to the story's context and can be logical as long as the elements are fleshed out and though-out. A BDSM incest story can be as much as realistic as a romantic one. Like any other porn game plot, incest is just an added layer to it that adds a sense of taboo or a more complex form of sexual fantasies.

Totally agree. Incest is just part of it. It is a love and lust story.

 

[Aegon Targaryen]

While I agree that many of the storylines fall victim to lazy writing, the psychology behind incest and the incest taboo is much too complex to accurately judge what could be considered "realistic".

The willingness to participate in an incestuous relationship, as well as the psychological reaction to it, can be influenced by plenty of factors other than just love and lust. Societal and cultural views, expected family roles and power dynamics, the domestic proximity of family members in some cases, even genetics can play a part.

I think the most important thing to consider when writing a storyline involving incest would be to try and account for many variables that could lead to the relationship. Whether it's forced or consensual, it has to feel like the interactions and history of the characters could plausibly lead to the outcome.

 

[dunhill]

It's currently the most popular genre, but it seems many writers just don't know how to write it. With the exception of some rare examples, they all involve the same unrealistic plot of two people eventually jumping each other upon discovering the other had interesting body parts.

After playing so many of these games, what is the F95zone community's idea of a realistic plot?

FYI: I'm thinking of developing a game, but always hit that wall where I yell at myself; "even I don't believe this shit can happen!"

well realistic incest usually involves abuse (both physical and mental abuse) there is rape and not the RP one that you can make look sexy, and lets not get into the age difference of most cases.... now with that said i've seen some cases of incest on TV "reality shows" some on the internet without hinting at abuse and they mostly involve twin lesbians and i think there was even a set of twins in Aus that date the same guy.... there is even this mormon guy who is married to a set of twins and their cousin...

but i got a friend who knows a friend who has a bff that has an odd story about a set of sisters (and maybe you can base your game on this because its a true story) i wouldn't go into too much detail here but just the basics... so basically there is these 2 sisters (not twins), always together, both very pretty, both in their 30's, both always study hard in school, they're both lawyers, both always single and always ignored boys... that was until one of them got married so the married couple bought some land and build their house and all three of them moved in... after the 1st year the wife give birth (which is no surprise) but a year later the sister also had a child (now the reason why this was a bit of a shock was she never went out, never had a bf, never had any friends male or female visit her)...

there is a bunch more stuff but i don't want to make this too long...

 

[RobJoy]

Honestly, I don't think it's that hard to write a realistic incest story.
It just requires the writer to give it emotional depth and history, because context is what makes it real. In simpler words - the story will need to be significantly longer, which makes it harder to keep it sexy throughout the plot.
But it does leave room for a more subtly built eroticism, which goes unappreciated in the porn games category. As most player prefer constant arousal and instant sex.

An example that comes close to being that way is Ethan's Legacy. While the story itself is unrealistic (super powers and all that), the nature of the family can be considered realistic in the world's context, the attraction grew out of prolonged intimacy between the 3 members of the family. A sense of danger and loneliness brought them closer and on top of that, there's of course Ethan's powers which lingered within him and probably had an amplified effect on the others over time.

Realism is relative to the story's context and can be logical as long as the elements are fleshed out and though-out. A BDSM incest story can be as much as realistic as a romantic one. Like any other porn game plot, incest is just an added layer to it that adds a sense of taboo or a more complex form of sexual fantasies.

Problem is, realistic incest is not fun. Well most of the time, at least for one party involved.
Unless you enjoy torturing others (physically or emotionally) when you have the upper hand (parent vs children).

Romantic and emotional incest is practically unheard off. It is like finding a pearl up river stream. And there are next to no accounts reported in real world of such a thing. If you find any, please be y guest and post the story here. I REALLY WANT TO KNOW.

Instead of you wanting realistic incest, I think it would be OK to want more involved and emotionally strong incest story.
DmD approaches that.

Or a non-incest where the brother loves a sister, and she loves him,.. then they find out they are not really siblings. But we already have this in these games.

 

[Adoringfan]

Pretty sure this is the

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that inspired Dating my Daughter. Incest is not always abuse, and yeah there are kids that do get molested but that really has no bearing on this topic at all. OP was talking about writing a realistic or believable incest story not a rape or molestation story. Now that everyone has gotten the rape and molestation stuff out of their system can we get back to making this thread great again?

@89tasker it sounds like you have some very good ideas and if there is any help you need don't be afraid to ask, I am usually hiding in discord.

 

[RobJoy]

Pretty sure this is the

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that inspired Dating my Daughter. Incest is not always abuse, and yeah there are kids that do get molested but that really has no bearing on this topic at all. OP was talking about writing a realistic or believable incest story not a rape or molestation story. Now that everyone has gotten the rape and molestation stuff out of their system can we get back to making this thread great again?

@89tasker it sounds like you have some very good ideas and if there is any help you need don't be afraid to ask, I am usually hiding in discord.

I know.

But realistic incest story is basically a rape story.
In most cases.

Unless you love redneck incest. Ow yeah, them brothers love them sisters. Ughugh


Come on, be real.

When have you ever heard of a nice romantic incest story in the news?
Or anywhere.

Sure let devs write about those. Because there is so many of them and so much detail is available online that there must be books worth of material, right?

Not.

 

[Younger54]

I think that is more a problem with our society rather than there just aren't that many instances of it. People love bad news, so only the abuse cases get publicity. Oooh a mother and son relationship or dad and daughter relationship where both parties are just normal people with no psychological issues... no one gives a f***, that wont get clicks or sell stories. Also, with the stigma of incest most people that are in a happy relationship probably hide it and see no reason to broadcast it. There is no doubt that incest has a degenerating effect on dna, but if its two people genuinely in love I think its ok as long as they adopt or are careful.

 

[greyelf]

While incest has a degenerating effect on DNA, it generally takes more than a single generation of inbreeding to cause issues. (besides the standard random issues that can happen when any two random people breed)

I think the main reason there aren't many erotic games with truly plausible incest (or other erotic types of) story-lines is the general need to use time-compression to keep the target audience engaged.

eg. Do you see most players being willing to read/play through the weeks/months of delegate interaction needed to establish a trusting relationship with someone when one wrong step could involve becoming an outcast or even getting arrested?

 

[RobJoy]

I think that is more a problem with our society rather than there just aren't that many instances of it. People love bad news, so only the abuse cases get publicity. Oooh a mother and son relationship or dad and daughter relationship where both parties are just normal people with no psychological issues... no one gives a f***, that wont get clicks or sell stories. Also, with the stigma of incest most people that are in a happy relationship probably hide it and see no reason to broadcast it. There is no doubt that incest has a degenerating effect on dna, but if its two people genuinely in love I think its ok as long as they adopt or are careful.

Yeah I see your point.

Love is love.

But such a thing is extremely rare. Bordering on non existence.
You hear it in movies, stories,books... never in real life or on the news.

 

[Adoringfan]

words

You used a lot of words to say nothing, try to stay on topic. I did link an article, and here's

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and there are plenty of others cases if you bothered to even do a google search. You don't hear about too many healthy incestuous relationships in the west because it's against the law almost everywhere. Now here is a big word: consanguinity, it means marriage to a blood relative, it's a thing that's practiced in many places around the world. Many Arab nations have no problem with people taking a first cousin as a wife, hell even Einstein and Roosevelt were in on it. Maybe not every incestuous relationship is hunky dory, but that doesn't mean most or all of them are rape or trauma stories. Maybe do a little research once in awhile. Also, I know it's tempting, but do try to hold onto your two cents, you might have a quality thought for a change.

 

[RobJoy]

You used a lot of words to say nothing, try to stay on topic. I did link an article, and here's

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and there are plenty of others cases if you bothered to even do a google search. You don't hear about too many healthy incestuous relationships in the west because it's against the law almost everywhere. Now here is a big word: consanguinity, it means marriage to a blood relative, it's a thing that's practiced in many places around the world. Many Arab nations have no problem with people taking a first cousin as a wife, hell even Einstein and Roosevelt were in on it. Maybe not every incestuous relationship is hunky dory, but that doesn't mean most or all of them are rape or trauma stories. Maybe do a little research once in awhile. Also, I know it's tempting, but do try to hold onto your two cents, you might have a quality thought for a change.

Trust me I've looked, and looked hard over the years.

True, you can find a happy incest story here and there (mom-son,.. brother-sister).
But like I SAID, it is rarer than an ice cream truck in the desert.

Maybe 1 (ONE) story in a year.

And how many unhappy ones? Hundreds per year.
So yeah, I stand by my "MOST/ALL" claim, and urge you to go google it up.