Byczer

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Game is pretty nice and fun my fav Amelia and trianna but there is too much grinding. It's tiring.
 
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Greetings, I tested the game. Version 0.2.2
And I want to give my opinion and provide feedback.

I will split this in two separate posts. The first one is objective. The second will be subjective but with a reason.

Here is the standard sentence: "This game has Potential." -->But it needs work in the gameplay department.

You have the power of choice. And avoid or neglect certain fetishes or some of the girls completely. I haven't seen a story so far. But this power of choice is a good thing.
It has good renders and scene composition for the lewd content.
To get there, you have to work for it. Grind it. That's not the problem. The real problem is to get to the fun scenes, this games want you as frustrated as you can get. Normal grind in Sandboxes are annoying, this is frustrating. Why?

You require certain stats and money. Some stats require money to train these stats. Working add $100 to your inv.
To Train Charisma as an example you go to the club pay $50 for a chance to raise your charisma stat for 1 point. Yes, a chance. It looks like there is some diminishing return build in. Means yea higher the stat yea unlikely it levels up.
I raised my charisma to 6 and paid $2350. That's 24 in game days of work.
Which means I see 18 times this massage:
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Same with Items you have to gather in the forest. Same failure massage.
I am at day 116 and have seen or rejected all the girls.
This grind is a typical sandbox grind plus a very frustrating mechanic which adds nothing to the game except a great level of frustration.

On top of that. You are forced into fights you can't win. It is like these strange Dungeon crawler games where you have to lose to see the content. I don't know you, but I am a gamer, I play to win.

It is visible that the Dev put a lot of effort into this, and I respect that.
Again, potential is there, but some design decisions are questionable but fixable.
 
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Now the second Part. My Opinion. And possible minor spoilers. Be Aware.
It ties in with my critique above.

This is a sandbox full of Anime Characters and the humor is special. It is often not my humor.
In general, this game wants you to lose, and the MC is the bottom of the jokes. Which is not funny. It makes the girls for me not likable.
It is like this expression from Kindergarten: "When she hits/or slaps you, it means she loves you." --> I always hit back.
MC gets hit a lot. You have 15 girls (one is actually 3): Out of my head Mikah, Ginny, Railey and Eve punching the MC. Without character building, this is not fun for me.
A warning sign appears which tells you which kinks await you ahead. That's good but. I believe 4 girls contain groupsex which is probably avoidable. Which means: It is? Or not? What means probably?
I found it very annoying to get into some quest and halfway through get presented which stats I need. So reloading grind the stat and do it again.
Forced into the Battle with Mikah only to lose without a chance is not a fun experience for me. Anime logic, she is too powerful.
If the story requires me to lose, then don't let me actively fight her. Just make it a scene. Same for Xenia.
I liked the content for Lilian and Trianna. I like Mikahs character, but most likely not her kinks.
Amelie's fight for dominance is as vanilla as it gets, and again you win, but you lose too. I found her character annoying. I break up with her, which give me a feeling of power.

The Characters need some build up. What's with Ginny? Being a Findom is not a character.

This is my feeling playing the Game, or as Mikah stated in her quest the MC achieved nothing. And the game is very prominent to show that. He is not a typical looser, but a guy who gets defeated a lot.

The lewd scenes are fun but the rest not so much. Again my Opinion. Take it with a grain of salt.
I tried everything to win against Mikah and come to the realization that it is impossible. (missed opportunity in my book)

I like Lilian arc except Ian. And I am intrigued by Xenia and Eve. I hope we can punish eve some more for her behavior.
 

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Greetings, I tested the game. Version 0.2.2
And I want to give my opinion and provide feedback.

I will split this in two separate posts. The first one is objective. The second will be subjective but with a reason.

Here is the standard sentence: "This game has Potential." -->But it needs work in the gameplay department.

You have the power of choice. And avoid or neglect certain fetishes or some of the girls completely. I haven't seen a story so far. But this power of choice is a good thing.
It has good renders and scene composition for the lewd content.
To get there, you have to work for it. Grind it. That's not the problem. The real problem is to get to the fun scenes, this games want you as frustrated as you can get. Normal grind in Sandboxes are annoying, this is frustrating. Why?

You require certain stats and money. Some stats require money to train these stats. Working add $100 to your inv.
To Train Charisma as an example you go to the club pay $50 for a chance to raise your charisma stat for 1 point. Yes, a chance. It looks like there is some diminishing return build in. Means yea higher the stat yea unlikely it levels up.
I raised my charisma to 6 and paid $2350. That's 24 in game days of work.
Which means I see 18 times this massage:
View attachment 1612419

Same with Items you have to gather in the forest. Same failure massage.
I am at day 116 and have seen or rejected all the girls.
This grind is a typical sandbox grind plus a very frustrating mechanic which adds nothing to the game except a great level of frustration.

On top of that. You are forced into fights you can't win. It is like these strange Dungeon crawler games where you have to lose to see the content. I don't know you, but I am a gamer, I play to win.

It is visible that the Dev put a lot of effort into this, and I respect that.
Again, potential is there, but some design decisions are questionable but fixable.
Hey, thanks for the feedback, is really much appreciated!

I'd like to say some things to this:

About the story so far:
I'm not really sure about 2.2.0 but, up to the new version there is a good amount of main story, a lot of explaining and so. I should have done this versions ago, but being this an adult game, I guess I just focused on the lewd/porn content to being with.

About the Grinding:
Ok, so far I had the "feeling", but you have just confirmed...Or Renpy "random" is really bugged, or I'm coding it wrong.
The actual code is 50% chance of leveling the stat if under 8 and 33% after that. I guess the random is not being that random, because you are not the only one facing this issue. I'll change the probability for future versions, I don't like this actual not real %. Besides all this, the idea is that stats will also raise doing different things (like advancing the girls), this is not yet implemented as much as I'd like to, but it will be. So far, only Ginny and Xenia events has it.
About the items in the forest, I didn't really noticed a real problem, but I'll look at this.
I'll change it to 70% and 50% success chance.

About Fights you can't win:
Actually there's only one fight that can't be "won", but end in a tie or lost, for plot things. Rest of the fights can be won. Some will be harder than others. If you are talking about Mikah's Sexfight, thing is Mikah is the PRO at sexfights, don't expect her to be easy. Why didn't I start whit an easy one? Well, thing is, Mikah got there first in content release. If someone like IDK, Luna happen to be the first, she would be really easy. I tend to do 2 or 3 updates based on the player's choice, and then update the "not that voted girls".
One way or another, the first Sexfight vs Mikah, won't affect her branch, the 2nd fight will. (Which was complety reworked into sexfights 3.0, and it's now affected by the easy mode).


Now the second Part. My Opinion. And possible minor spoilers. Be Aware.
It ties in with my critique above.

This is a sandbox full of Anime Characters and the humor is special. It is often not my humor.
In general, this game wants you to lose, and the MC is the bottom of the jokes. Which is not funny. It makes the girls for me not likable.
It is like this expression from Kindergarten: "When she hits/or slaps you, it means she loves you." --> I always hit back.
MC gets hit a lot. You have 15 girls (one is actually 3): Out of my head Mikah, Ginny, Railey and Eve punching the MC. Without character building, this is not fun for me.
A warning sign appears which tells you which kinks await you ahead. That's good but. I believe 4 girls contain groupsex which is probably avoidable. Which means: It is? Or not? What means probably?
I found it very annoying to get into some quest and halfway through get presented which stats I need. So reloading grind the stat and do it again.
Forced into the Battle with Mikah only to lose without a chance is not a fun experience for me. Anime logic, she is too powerful.
If the story requires me to lose, then don't let me actively fight her. Just make it a scene. Same for Xenia.
I liked the content for Lilian and Trianna. I like Mikahs character, but most likely not her kinks.
Amelie's fight for dominance is as vanilla as it gets, and again you win, but you lose too. I found her character annoying. I break up with her, which give me a feeling of power.

The Characters need some build up. What's with Ginny? Being a Findom is not a character.

This is my feeling playing the Game, or as Mikah stated in her quest the MC achieved nothing. And the game is very prominent to show that. He is not a typical looser, but a guy who gets defeated a lot.

The lewd scenes are fun but the rest not so much. Again my Opinion. Take it with a grain of salt.
I tried everything to win against Mikah and come to the realization that it is impossible. (missed opportunity in my book)

I like Lilian arc except Ian. And I am intrigued by Xenia and Eve. I hope we can punish eve some more for her behavior.
About mc being the bottom of jokes and so:
I'll take a look at this, maybe It was too much and I didn't realize it, I'll keep this in mind from now on.

About avoidable content:
It is. Taking Mikah as an example: You can groupsex her, or do it alone.
If any content is not "Vanilla" or "MC vs girl/girls" It will probably be skippeable/avoidable. Player is in control of what he wants to see/play.

I will really keep this in my mind, I know I like the things hard, but again, this is not a game for me, but for you, so I will try to change some things from now on, or at least improve the "Easy mode". Maybe rewarding the ones playing it on normal/hard with some bonus scenes and so. I hope you can make another impression like this in 2.4.0, I'm now working on 2.3.0.

And again, thanks for the time to write this, this really helps me!
 
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Thanks for your response. Glad you see it that way. I may add it is my Opinion, and I am pretty much alone with it. It is nice that you take my critique in consideration. But I may be the only one who see it that way. So don't jump to a conclusion right now.(y)

Now I want to answer to some things you have said.

About Fights you can't win:
Actually there's only one fight that can't be "won", but end in a tie or lost, for plot things. Rest of the fights can be won.
Xenias Boyfriend and Mikahs fight. Which one can be won and how?:oops:

About avoidable content:
It is. Taking Mikah as an example: You can groupsex her, or do it alone.
If any content is not "Vanilla" or "MC vs girl/girls" It will probably be skippeable/avoidable. Player is in control of what he wants to see/play.
Maybe it is a lost in translation thing. You used the word: "probably".
For me, it means most likely but maybe not. It is not a clear "It is avoidable".

About the Grinding:
Ok, so far I had the "feeling", but you have just confirmed...Or Renpy "random" is really bugged, or I'm coding it wrong.
The actual code is 50% chance of leveling the stat if under 8 and 33% after that. I guess the random is not being that random, because you are not the only one facing this issue. I'll change the probability for future versions, I don't like this actual not real %. Besides all this, the idea is that stats will also raise doing different things (like advancing the girls), this is not yet implemented as much as I'd like to, but it will be. So far, only Ginny and Xenia events has it.
About the items in the forest, I didn't really noticed a real problem, but I'll look at this.
I'll change it to 70% and 50% success chance.
Stochastic is a bitch.;) You know, if you have 100 tries for a coin flip, the coin can land 80 time on the same site.
This mechanic is in my opinion not good. It adds nothing to the game. It is not fun.
Because and I have seen that and that worry me.
Xenia is Vanilla, no problem with her. But what if the player don't want her?
Ginny has a fetish, some players don't want. You don't reward them for taking the route. You punish player who are not into that kink or don't like the girl.

About mc being the bottom of jokes and so:
I'll take a look at this, maybe It was too much and I didn't realize it, I'll keep this in mind from now on.
It really is a matter of taste. But in my Playthrough. Where I played all girls or avoid them. A few examples. It is not always the way but for my tastes too often.

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I will really keep this in my mind, I know I like the things hard, but again, this is not a game for me, but for you, so I will try to change some things from now on, or at least improve the "Easy mode". Maybe rewarding the ones playing it on normal/hard with some bonus scenes and so. I hope you can make another impression like this in 2.4.0, I'm now working on 2.3.0.
I will play it again, of course. Thank you for working your arse off.(y)

Bonus content. Not the Problem. And I like a good level of difficulty. But it should be Fair.
Look at the Mini-games. Maybe you make a poll for your Patreons or on Discord. But I guess nobody have found the solution to get the Bonus content. Maybe pure luck. But nobody did it on purpose. I won't believe that.

I hope I don't sound too negative or rude. Keep it up and you will deliver a nice game. Make what you want and have fun with it.
Good luck and have a nice day.
 
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Xenias Boyfriend and Mikahs fight. Which one can be won and how?:oops:
Xenia's boyfriend if you just defend all the fight, the fight will end in a TIE, this is the only fight that can't be "won" (actually it can be won, but it will probably require you hitting hello Jikan and spoiler, Xenia won't like it that much. No matter the batle outcome won't alter the Xenia's feelings, it will just alter a little the story dialogues.


Maybe it is a lost in translation thing. You used the word: "probably".
For me, it means most likely but maybe not. It is not a clear "It is avoidable".
I probably used probably because I wan't sure, but I can assure you, at the time, all the not vanilla or not MC alone vs girl content, CAN be skipped or be done alone (As I quoted before, Mikah's 2nd sexfight which was implemented in 2.3.0, you can fight with IAN or alone. (And at the end of the fight, you get to choose again, if Ian stays or leaves.)
Ginny's BDSM dominatrix content is adviced, still if you don't like something, you can say RED and end it.
Violet on the secret club, the user chooses the room settings, allowing ppl outside to see/hear or no.
I don't have another situation like this in mind to say right now.


Stochastic is a bitch.;) You know, if you have 100 tries for a coin flip, the coin can land 80 time on the same site.
This mechanic is in my opinion not good. It adds nothing to the game. It is not fun.
Because and I have seen that and that worry me.
Xenia is Vanilla, no problem with her. But what if the player don't want her?
Ginny has a fetish, some players don't want. You don't reward them for taking the route. You punish player who are not into that kink or don't like the girl.
Yeah, that's why eventually I'll start adding other stats to other girls. But I'm positive the Renpy Random is not that random.

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Ginny is a natural Dominatrix, she's also kind of childish as stated several times. It's normal for her to react like this even when she's yelling.
Kylie //spoiler is what you can call... Fuck the name left me. Well, I think you can anticipate how she is, and the reason is explained later.
About Mikah... She's not really saying you achieved nothing, she says "maybe" susan went soft on him, and "maybe" she was drugged. Still, remember MC in his "normal form" is a normal boy, and those 3 girls where the best of the club at sexfighting. Like I said, if the moment come, to fight with someone like Luna, if she fights alone, she will have no chance (even for a all zero MC stats) xD

PS: For what I see at your picture, you had Mikah almost defeated! You should be able to defeat her with your stats in 9... 7 If you understand her needs.

Bonus content. Not the Problem. And I like a good level of difficulty. But it should be Fair.
Look at the Mini-games. Maybe you make a poll for your Patreons or on Discord. But I guess nobody have found the solution to get the Bonus content. Maybe pure luck. But nobody did it on purpose. I won't believe that.
I have a few that understand the mechanics and got to it, it wasn't easy but they did.

I hope I don't sound too negative or rude. Keep it up and you will deliver a nice game. Make what you want and have fun with it.
Good luck and have a nice day.
I'm not sure if I said this here, but the game has a lot of girls, so the player will find a few that he likes. No girl is mandatory, no girl is needed this time to acchieve the "good ending", Well, at least the player should get 1 girl xD. I personally like them all, mostly, I was also told that in RBL1 the MC was kind of a switch, I get it, sometimes he's the master, sometimes he's the sub, but remember he's a kid, just discovering his sexual life, and I'm not sure about all of you, but I can bet, most of us will say yes to almost anything (normal enough) if the girl is worth it or fucking pretty. Maybe we get more selective when we grow up. Maybe.

Thanks again!
 

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Is it recommended to play part 1 first or can I start with part 2 without feeling like I'm missing out?
 

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I know right... does this game engine hate men? Because this isn't the first time I've seen this in games made in this engine.

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It is totally a Waifu engine, so it happens. A lot. You will see the back arched, you will see guys sitting with their legs closed and feet pointing inwards, and stuf like that. Can't be helped
 

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It is totally a Waifu engine, so it happens. A lot. You will see the back arched, you will see guys sitting with their legs closed and feet pointing inwards, and stuf like that. Can't be helped
Yeah, and don't even try to get cool clothes for man... There's like... 10, and most of them will glitch or bug. Some people make the males using females bodies, but it doesn't look that good. At least not with my short experience.
 
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I like the look of the girls in your game and it's harem and incest so I wanted to play both of your games but I decided to read some comments before I do and with comments like this
Enjoyed the first game. it was entertaining and interesting but this one... yeah this one kinda just...meh it completely trashes the first game/part, it's not really a continuation in my opinion other than the setting (location and characters being the same) and tosses you into a sandbox with no actually point or reason to want to continue it. also like Seveas pointed out the first actual "interaction" with Amelie is to cuck you for calling her cousin... I mean really...the game is just... needless to say the first part was good but this part I will probably not play.

Quick edit: Also with the introduction of male friends I have a feeling there will be alot more annoying interactions between the girls and the male friends (the male friends flirting with the girls and the girls trying to make the MC jealous like Amelia does)
Every single relationship the MC had was destroyed at the beginning,
and femdom, humiliation, and sandbox I know I wouldn't like the game. It seems like it going in the same direction as "A Peaceful Life" and that game was total shit before it was abandoned.
 

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I like the look of the girls in your game and it's harem and incest so I wanted to play both of your games but I decided to read some comments before I do and with comments like this


and femdom, humiliation, and sandbox I know I wouldn't like the game. It seems like it going in the same direction as "A Peaceful Life" and that game was total shit before it was abandoned.
Hi, I haven't played that game, but reading your likes and hate tags, I believe the game is not for you.
RBL1 has some kind of femdom. But RBL2 has 3 girls that will try to fendom you (although there are 14 other girls that won't even try to dom you), and it's a sandbox. (Even when all 3 can be skippable or ignored, or "dominated").
 
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