VN Ren'Py Reclaiming the Lost [v0.9] [Passion Portal]

[White Lamp]

Good start. Very rare to see a dev that is this detail orientated. The narration that pretty much hold your hand throughout the story is *chef's kiss*. Renders also is beautiful. All in all, well done and hope you are successful in this space!

As for the "kink" that people are discussing, my advice is this. Decide what YOU want to write yourself and stick to your guns. If you want to write vanilla/harem, then do it. If you want to add NTR kinks into the story, do it. BUT make that decision EARLY (preferably before next update) and let everyone know so you can actually start building a fan base that is based on what you want to write. The most important person is still you. You don't want to write something you do not like and have it end up abandoned or half assed in the future.

Being wishy washy and kicking the can down the road ("voting") is also a very bad idea. I will say this, incest and/or harem DO NOT mix well with NTR. Optional NTR or not does not matter if you decide late into the game. Furthermore, most "popular" games do not have the NTR kink so take this fact however you want.

And if ultimately decide to NOT do NTR, then please do not do it at all including "optional non-canon side stories" that do include that kink. Your sub count will hurt in a long run if you do. So don't take the "easy" money and instead establish a loyal following instead.



P.S. I hope the MILF is on the menu later on....First time seeing a MILF that actually looks old but also very attractive.

 

[Crow Armbrust]

THX

 

[1tomadeira]

The renders look great. Also, nice balance between a MILF who actually looks as a MILF and still gorgeous, while not being a supermodel. If the content has this balance as the renders, then it's actually very worthy of patronage.

Good luck for the project dev.

 

[The Pie Rat]

Ok, decent start. Good models.

1. Please give characters names, the sister doesn't have a name. Also maybe give the girl he meets (obviously his daughter as he can name her) a default name.
2. I'm not sure how I feel about the sister's stream interactions, from the way it sounds, she's going to be slutting herself on the internet while the MC pays her to do it.

 

[Raziel_8]

A good first release and nice renders.

As for the voting, as others have said, it would be best if to decide it early if you want to include or exclude content like ntr. Making it clear will help you to build up your fanbase and introducing that fetish somewhere down the road won't go well with many vanilla/harem/incest fans, which is the group you likely want to reach.
Many have tried to combine harem/ntr to please both sides, but it almost never goes well. Often leaving both crowds pissed.

The sister and mother need names.
I'm not sure where you want to go with the sister's streaming, if it is just for knowing her better and then reveal who you are all good and fine, but i really hope you will not make her a cam-whore.

 

[Passion_Portal]

Good start. Very rare to see a dev that is this detail orientated. The narration that pretty much hold your hand throughout the story is *chef's kiss*. Renders also is beautiful. All in all, well done and hope you are successful in this space!

As for the "kink" that people are discussing, my advice is this. Decide what YOU want to write yourself and stick to your guns. If you want to write vanilla/harem, then do it. If you want to add NTR kinks into the story, do it. BUT make that decision EARLY (preferably before next update) and let everyone know so you can actually start building a fan base that is based on what you want to write. The most important person is still you. You don't want to write something you do not like and have it end up abandoned or half assed in the future.

Being wishy washy and kicking the can down the road ("voting") is also a very bad idea. I will say this, incest and/or harem DO NOT mix well with NTR. Optional NTR or not does not matter if you decide late into the game. Furthermore, most "popular" games do not have the NTR kink so take this fact however you want.

And if ultimately decide to NOT do NTR, then please do not do it at all including "optional non-canon side stories" that do include that kink. Your sub count will hurt in a long run if you do. So don't take the "easy" money and instead establish a loyal following instead.



P.S. I hope the MILF is on the menu later on....First time seeing a MILF that actually looks old but also very attractive.

Thank you for the detailed feedback. About the MILF.
It will be 100%. But I don't want to do it so that in the second update the MC will sleep with all the girls. But I will not pull for 2-3 years, as in some games (Dual Family)
As Makima said
"When it comes to sex, the better you understand the other person, the better it feels."

 

[Balderdash1000]

The girls look good, but the writing comes off as stilted sometimes, and you've got a few typos there. As other people have said, you can see the girls. Putting in a ton of text describing them is a waste, and breaks the flow of the game. They say a picture's worth a thousand words, so letting the renders do the talking for you there would work a lot better. Other than that, it looks good. I've always liked dad/daughter, and a cute sister never hurts.. though having her show off her body for cash is a little concerning. I'm looking forward to seeing how this develops.

Also, I'm going to agree with the others here. Feedback is great. Votes are asking for trouble. If someone can verbalize what they think that's way more useful than clicking a box, and still leaves plenty of room for your own choices.

 

[Passion_Portal]

This VN looks nice, but I really hesitate to give it a run. As long as the NTR part is not decided I won't feel comfortable with this VN. I don't want a repeat of another VN that I invested time in, only to get NTR added later on. I think that's a scummy thing to do, and I dropped that VN for that reason. I don't want history to repeat itself, so I give this VN a chance the moment it's totally clear what is going to happen to the story.

So far I am on the fence waiting for some clear statements...

I have already given the answer that there is no NTR in the written plot.

 

[SeanConnery69]

lets go babaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

 

[goulet1995]

I have already given the answer that there is no NTR in the written plot.

so is that not a fetish you plan to have voted on could you give an example of what would be voted on then?

 

[ZeroToleranc]

So far one of the good start. Pretty models, good writing. The story isn't rushing forward to sex, porn etc but rather making an erotic build-up, I really like this in games and it's a pity we don't get this quite often.

I think the main con is the lacking of sound design. The audio in this game is rather dead.

 

[itsyeboii]

Everyone can have their own preferences but it's insane how sensitive some people are about NTR.

Anyways, hopefully the milf will get a lot of content because she looks great.

 

[Edrick23]

Is she loyal or not, it has nothing to do with her personality, she is only loyal if you pick that, she is disloyal if you pick that, she is not a real character in her own right. It isn't realistic. A loyal woman wouldn't cheat, and a disloyal one would. It shouldn't be "optional." And a disloyal female character has no place in a game that is not built as an NTR heavy game.

Double standard.
In some games, there are love interest who are married. And they cheat on their husband by having sex with the Main Character. So they are disloyal female characters (even if they have "good" reasons ^^ ).
And yet these games aren't NTR heavy. And nobody complains about that, me neither.

And can we stop talking about realism in porn games?
Ok, a porn game can be more or less realistic, but, come on, that's not the main reason we play them.
"Tits are too large! Ass is too fat! Dick is too big! That's not realistic!!"
Who cares? It's a porn fantasy.

I play many harem porns game. Talk about realism...
And the bigger the harem, the less realistic the game.
A bunch of women waiting their turn to get fucked, worshiping the MC and allowing him to fuck around without jealousy. Let's be honest, it's really ridiculous. But who cares? It's fun!

 

[incest lover m/s]

f/d incest is not my favorite kind of incest otherwise i would try it but good luck anyway

 

[RYOUSC]

Seems promising. I'm assuming the poster girl is the daughter? If so, that's great. Love her design. Will keep an eye on this one!

Edit: The initial plot reminds me a bit of Our Fate, hope this one won't get abandoned like the former.

 

[kci12]

 

[SeanConnery69]

add pregnacy OP. do it!

 

[AL.d]

.... A loyal woman wouldn't cheat, and a disloyal one would. It shouldn't be "optional." And a disloyal female character has no place in a game that is not built as an NTR heavy game.....

A good writer creates characters who aren't black and white like what you are describing. Although it's very unlikely to find such writers in the adult game genre.

And yes, you can have a cheating character in a game that's not all about ntr. The other day I was reading a japanese story about a dude who got ntrd, but after a time of angst and hurt, he proceeded to make a harem and the chick actually regretted it. A story with ntr, disloyalty but also harem and a protag who didn't turn into a cuck. We could be having more stories like these in games if we didn't seperate everything to fit a specific genre just because someone will whine about it. That's why all we are getting is the same reskinned incest harem game and the same shitty ntr story with the exact same tropes every time.

Of course the one who should be deciding what fits their story should be the dev, not some patreon voter like its onlyfans content whoring.

 

[b12moguj]

Is the last scene (phone call) supposed to have empty dialogue boxes, or is it a bug?

 

[fidgetspinner]

May have been the kind of thing that would be voted on? Sister being a cam girl can go really wrong really fast.

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Just my two cents about voting... well, things like, "Where should MC and girl X go on their next date," are great ideas to have as votes. It's a planned event and the story is set, but players have some say over the specifics which is good.

But if it's "Will a BBC show up and bang the sister on camera?" Then yeah, that's a terrible idea. Controversial fetishes shouldn't be up for a vote. Often voting is just two wolves and sheep voting on what's for dinner. And it only counts the people who vote. If a hundred people vote, but you have 1000 patreons and 10,000 people playing the game then even 80% of the hundred might just be 80% of those willing or able to vote. While that 80% might really only represent 20% of the 10,000 others who didn't vote for many reasons. I've even heard of people joining a patreon for a dollar, vote to add a fetish, and then leave the next month just to watch a game crash and burn after that because they enjoyed screwing up what other people like.

And it strikes me as odd that often NTR is the only controversial one brought up for a vote. It is one of the only ones that developers are often unwilling to decide on. Incest is in, right? Necrophilia is out, right? People won't be voting on that right? Will people be able to vote to have a random rape scene between NPCs? Probably not, I doubt that's how you want the story to go, because you know the kind of story would have that, and yours either is, or is not, that kind of story regardless of random people on the internet's ideas. I doubt people will have a say on bestiality, scat, sissification, the MC getting pulled into a gay orgy... I'd bet money those are decided already because the dev wouldn't want to make those. No dev is "on the fence" about necrophilia. Don't be on the fence about NTR.

A Point about why optional is still, often, a problem: It causes the personality of the character to be broken. If the only reason a girl isn't banging some other guy is because the MC babysits her it says something about her personality. She wants to bang other guys, but the MC isn't letting her. It can turn a loving character into a traitorous one. Or it makes them a blank doll that the player moves around. A carbon copy of every other mindless girl in the game whose actions are dictated by the player's will. Is she loyal or not, it has nothing to do with her personality, she is only loyal if you pick that, she is disloyal if you pick that, she is not a real character in her own right. It isn't realistic. A loyal woman wouldn't cheat, and a disloyal one would. It shouldn't be "optional." And a disloyal female character has no place in a game that is not built as an NTR heavy game.

Also, as a final note, keep in mind that once you finish the game, all the tags and content will be out there. People will even likely have walkthroughs and spoilers a plenty on the forum to find info if they want it. Try not to let a fear of "spoiling things"" keep you from being open and honest about the broad strokes of the content. It isn't a spoiler to know that vaginal sex will be in the story, or anal sex. So, you can openly tell people the "what," of what will come. You still have the who, why, how, when, where... all of that to play with to keep the story fresh as it develops.

Anyway, that's my essay for the day. Best of luck dev and we'll see how things go. It's an interesting concept and I hope a stance is taken and then perhaps it can be a game I enjoy instead of how it stands now. Which is as a game I would be apprehensive about playing because I would fear what is to come. And I don't come to play games to be worried the whole time, I play for escapism.

I dislike your portrayal of the broad concept of "NTR" has here. Your portrayal of the "loyal woman" is basically devoiding their character of any agenda. She's there only to please the MC. She MUST be loyal but since the MC is a man and controlled by player he can fuck arround without any repercussion. Why would a woman seeing her LI having sex with anything with a vagina not think "You know what, if he fuck around why wouldn't I do as well?

I know what you're going to say. "He's the MC, of course he's the only one that can do anything, everything should revolve around him". That's exactly my point here. The interactive nature of the medium allow for choice and consequences. Fuck around and find out. Except People like you cannot accept that MC may not get rewarded if he's behaving like a fuck boy and disrespecting his LI by sleeping with anything that move. You also can't accept that other characters within the plot may have their own story outside of MC.

You assume that by default, because MC is male all women must be loyal to him, but he doesn't have any requirement to be loyal to them. And this is not only very poor writting, it's very condescending toward women.

So go ahead, leave your facepalms reaction. This only increase the Like counter as the website doesn't make distinction on it. Can't formulate a coherent idea? leave a facepalm.