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The NTS/BBC path will start in earnest in ch. 4. There will be a NTR bad end at the end of chapter 3How to get on bbc/QoS path?
There's no NTR/NTS in the game yet, all the scenes so far are vanillaIs the vanilla path already in the game? I can't wait to download this game, but what's holding me back is that I'm waiting for the vanilla path since I don't like NTR. And this big-breasted cow FMC sold the game and increases my desire to download it, what's holding me back is my wait for the vanilla path.
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Did she really cheat on MC with a handjob/blowjob? I know there is something more than what she told the MC. I hope she really hadn't crossed the line. Being groped and kissed in a weak moment is forgivable, but more than that and still lie about it, a real red flag at start to fix a relationship, it really reduce my interest in her.Against my better judgement I downloaded the game and tried it. I'm only interested in the maledom vanilla non NTR non sharing routes so I did that route only, the scenes were a bit plain but that's what I signed up for I guess, and the game isn't even that far into the story yet. I'm not going to rate it yet, its not fair to at this point
What I see in the game: Its fine, I like the character models, the MC's wife is the reason I broke my "no NTR games with a secondary vanilla route" rule in the first place. The routes seem fine, I won't touch a route where the MC's wife fucks anyone but him, but from reading in the thread there will be plenty of vanilla routes anyways, which is quite nice. The MC's penis seems to be a small point of contention within the thread, I'll be honest, I don't see it. And that's not a joke about his penis size. His dick is average, I guess compared to a lot of porn games, it could be called quite small, but people were acting like he had a micropenis when in reality its just average. My main gripe with the game is the characters, they're forgettable at the moment, which considering the length of the game, is perfectly fine, but I expect in a few updates for this to be fixed, for context, I forgot the names of everyone in the game by the time it took me to finish day 2, save, exit the game, and begin writing this.
Animations and sex scene quality: Its fine. I don't need animations to enjoy a porn game, which is good cause there aren't many here, at least in the vanilla path. The sex scenes themselves have some issues, all of which are related to the next part of this message.
What needs to be fixed urgently: Bodies clipping through clothing, and clothing clipping through clothing. Its pretty universal in this game, a lot of the scenes present are going to need to be redone at some point, cause its in sex scenes and normal scenes too. a small patch of skin showing through clothes occasionally is to be expected, sometimes its just not possible to fit the perfect outfit to one of your characters perfectly and a bit of skin pokes through, that's fine, but that's not how it is in this game, there are multiple scenes where multiple large patches of skin or undershirts are visible through clothes, and for an almost 2026 porn game that people are expected to pay for, clothes that clip that much when not in a standard T or A pose, is frankly unacceptable. Clothed sex is cool, but when a shirt is clipping and exposing a large amount of skin, there's just no point to the clothes at all, and the scenes would have been better without them.
All in all, if I HAD to rate the game, it would be a 6.5/10. Its fine. It has potential, and its turning out fine but not exceptional, play it and see if you like where the story is going, I personally do and will follow the game.
Character thoughts(These are just my observations about characters and has no bearing on how I feel about the game):
For the scene about the trainer sending the mc a video of the incident that started the VN off, the MC's wife cheating on him with the trainer, I chose to confront her calmly over it on my actual save, but went back and had the MC explode on her for it just to see how that plays out, in both situations, she kind of plays the victim with the "But I already apologized and you kind of brought it on yourself for leaving me alone" stuff, but she also lied pretty hard about what she actually did with the trainer, going from "It was just a kiss and some groping" to "Yes I lied and I actually did have sex with him but I already apologized before you found out the true extent of what I did with him and you forgave me for what you thought I did with him, so you can't just confront me about it" (Yes, a blowjob or a handjob(its not clear which she actually did and I have no interest in NTR so I'm not paying for the patreon to watch it) counts as sex, deal with it, she cheated truly and fully) It feels... immature? For both choices on the MC's wife's part, and the MC's part if you choose to get angry over it with her too. Yes its a bit crazy to, on the second day of the vacation you are taking with your wife to fix your relationship after she cheated on you, confront her over the cheating that caused the vacation in the first place, but to be fair to the MC, he forgave her for what he thought was just a kiss and some groping, not her actually cheating on him and getting involved with another man's dick and cum. Yes she instantly regretted it, yes she did it once and left, but she still did it, and worse yet, she lied about the extent of it to MC, she has absolutely ZERO reason to play the victim in this instance, and even less of a reason to act like the MC is acting unreasonable about confronting her over it and getting mad at him. She can repeat how much she regretted it as much as she wants but the truth of the matter is that she still did it, and lied to the MC about how far she went by several orders of magnitude, getting mad at him because he had already forgiven her for what he thought she did, but no longer forgiving her after he was given proof she lied to him is crazy on her part.
I think there should have been a fourth option at that point that was a good middle ground between calmly talking and instantly forgiving her again or freaking out at her and shouting. Something calm like the "good" option, but also getting across the point of the "bad" option, something like "I no longer forgive you, and we need to talk about our relationship urgently, you lied to me and that is unacceptable, but it can wait until later tonight, so lets just finish what we have for today" and that feels more realistic than them just kissing and instantly making up again or the MC losing his cool and screaming at her.
Both the MC and his wife seem to have some pretty deep flaws (and that's just part of telling a story, I'm not complaining about it) with the MC having a tendency to stick to the extremes and the wife having a pretty immature personality where she can't accept that she brought this on herself, again, yes, she apologized, but only for kissing and groping, not the actual sex that she lied about not having, she has no reason to act like the MC is being unreasonable when getting mad at her all over again when learning about this lie. If she were my wife, I may not have started filing for divorce upon learning she kissed and groped/was groped by another man (and the fact that she herself told me and is seemingly trying to make up for it is doing all of the lifting on that "maybe") but upon learning that she lied and did actually have sex, that would have been the marriage over right that second.
The video cuts out with a "sub to patreon for full animation" advertisement but the MC says that at the end of the video she runs out of the room with cum on her but he couldn't tell if she sucked the trainer off or just jerked him off (since the patreon ad is canon to the game too)Did she really cheat on MC with a handjob/blowjob? I know there is something more than what she told the MC. I hope she really hadn't crossed the line. Being groped and kissed in a weak moment is forgivable, but more than that and still lie about it, a real red flag at start to fix a relationship, it really reduce my interest in her.
I need to recheck the scene again.The video cuts out with a "sub to patreon for full animation" advertisement but the MC says that at the end of the video she runs out of the room with cum on her but he couldn't tell if she sucked the trainer off or just jerked him off (since the patreon ad is canon to the game too)
UpdatedJust a heads up. Need to update
Thanks for your feedback and critiques. I'll try to address as many points as possible without spoiling the story.Against my better judgement I downloaded the game and tried it. I'm only interested in the maledom vanilla non NTR non sharing routes so I did that route only, the scenes were a bit plain but that's what I signed up for I guess, and the game isn't even that far into the story yet. I'm not going to rate it yet, its not fair to at this point
What I see in the game: Its fine, I like the character models, the MC's wife is the reason I broke my "no NTR games with a secondary vanilla route" rule in the first place. The routes seem fine, I won't touch a route where the MC's wife fucks anyone but him, but from reading in the thread there will be plenty of vanilla routes anyways, which is quite nice. The MC's penis seems to be a small point of contention within the thread, I'll be honest, I don't see it. And that's not a joke about his penis size. His dick is average, I guess compared to a lot of porn games, it could be called quite small, but people were acting like he had a micropenis when in reality its just average. My main gripe with the game is the characters, they're forgettable at the moment, which considering the length of the game, is perfectly fine, but I expect in a few updates for this to be fixed, for context, I forgot the names of everyone in the game by the time it took me to finish day 2, save, exit the game, and begin writing this.
Animations and sex scene quality: Its fine. I don't need animations to enjoy a porn game, which is good cause there aren't many here, at least in the vanilla path. The sex scenes themselves have some issues, all of which are related to the next part of this message.
What needs to be fixed urgently: Bodies clipping through clothing, and clothing clipping through clothing. Its pretty universal in this game, a lot of the scenes present are going to need to be redone at some point, cause its in sex scenes and normal scenes too. a small patch of skin showing through clothes occasionally is to be expected, sometimes its just not possible to fit the perfect outfit to one of your characters perfectly and a bit of skin pokes through, that's fine, but that's not how it is in this game, there are multiple scenes where multiple large patches of skin or undershirts are visible through clothes, and for an almost 2026 porn game that people are expected to pay for, clothes that clip that much when not in a standard T or A pose, is frankly unacceptable. Clothed sex is cool, but when a shirt is clipping and exposing a large amount of skin, there's just no point to the clothes at all, and the scenes would have been better without them.
All in all, if I HAD to rate the game, it would be a 6.5/10. Its fine. It has potential, and its turning out fine but not exceptional, play it and see if you like where the story is going, I personally do and will follow the game.
Character thoughts(These are just my observations about characters and has no bearing on how I feel about the game):
For the scene about the trainer sending the mc a video of the incident that started the VN off, the MC's wife cheating on him with the trainer, I chose to confront her calmly over it on my actual save, but went back and had the MC explode on her for it just to see how that plays out, in both situations, she kind of plays the victim with the "But I already apologized and you kind of brought it on yourself for leaving me alone" stuff, but she also lied pretty hard about what she actually did with the trainer, going from "It was just a kiss and some groping" to "Yes I lied and I actually did have sex with him but I already apologized before you found out the true extent of what I did with him and you forgave me for what you thought I did with him, so you can't just confront me about it" (Yes, a blowjob or a handjob(its not clear which she actually did and I have no interest in NTR so I'm not paying for the patreon to watch it) counts as sex, deal with it, she cheated truly and fully) It feels... immature? For both choices on the MC's wife's part, and the MC's part if you choose to get angry over it with her too. Yes its a bit crazy to, on the second day of the vacation you are taking with your wife to fix your relationship after she cheated on you, confront her over the cheating that caused the vacation in the first place, but to be fair to the MC, he forgave her for what he thought was just a kiss and some groping, not her actually cheating on him and getting involved with another man's dick and cum. Yes she instantly regretted it, yes she did it once and left, but she still did it, and worse yet, she lied about the extent of it to MC, she has absolutely ZERO reason to play the victim in this instance, and even less of a reason to act like the MC is acting unreasonable about confronting her over it and getting mad at him. She can repeat how much she regretted it as much as she wants but the truth of the matter is that she still did it, and lied to the MC about how far she went by several orders of magnitude, getting mad at him because he had already forgiven her for what he thought she did, but no longer forgiving her after he was given proof she lied to him is crazy on her part.
I think there should have been a fourth option at that point that was a good middle ground between calmly talking and instantly forgiving her again or freaking out at her and shouting. Something calm like the "good" option, but also getting across the point of the "bad" option, something like "I no longer forgive you, and we need to talk about our relationship urgently, you lied to me and that is unacceptable, but it can wait until later tonight, so lets just finish what we have for today" and that feels more realistic than them just kissing and instantly making up again or the MC losing his cool and screaming at her.
Both the MC and his wife seem to have some pretty deep flaws (and that's just part of telling a story, I'm not complaining about it) with the MC having a tendency to stick to the extremes and the wife having a pretty immature personality where she can't accept that she brought this on herself, again, yes, she apologized, but only for kissing and groping, not the actual sex that she lied about not having, she has no reason to act like the MC is being unreasonable when getting mad at her all over again when learning about this lie. If she were my wife, I may not have started filing for divorce upon learning she kissed and groped/was groped by another man (and the fact that she herself told me and is seemingly trying to make up for it is doing all of the lifting on that "maybe") but upon learning that she lied and did actually have sex, that would have been the marriage over right that second.
Ah I have no gripes about how the cheating video and the characters' reactions to it was handled at all, it was just my observations about the characters and their personalities, and It doesn't matter to me if the trainer video was a real patreon thing or not, I wasn't going to watch it anyways since I'm not into ntr, sorry about the confusionThanks for your feedback and critiques. I'll try to address as many points as possible without spoiling the story.
-Yeah, MC is intended as someone who has an average penis, which would naturally look small in a porn context.
- I am sure as the story progresses and players get acquainted with the characters, they'll start feeling strongly about them one way or the other.
- I'll try to fix the clipping in the scenes already present in the game and work on a workflow that reduces clipping to a minimum, if not eliminates it completely.
- The fourth part is your biggest gripe, and unfortunately, I can't say much without spoiling the story. But I would clarify one thing, the video that Caden (the trainer) sends is intended to be blacked out for everyone, not just the free players. It's not a premium scene. In general about the fight scene, all I'll say is that there's a twist and once all the details are revealed a lot of things would make a lot more sense. (There's already some foreshadowing for the twist btw.)
are you saying ntr will end and the game become nts only.The NTS/BBC path will start in earnest in ch. 4. There will be a NTR bad end at the end of chapter 3
There's no NTR/NTS in the game yet, all the scenes so far are vanilla
No, there will be more NTR scenes in the future after Day 3are you saying ntr will end and the game become nts only.
just trying to verify. if it is it suck.only here for cheating/ntr path.
I refuse to beleive that didnt cause her physical damage.