RenPys with 32bit version crash

[Tagfalter]

Hey guys,

since lately I got more and moreRen'Py games which include a 32bit exe. Those games do not start at all anymore (using the 64bit exe on a 64bit OS ofc). Tried most fixes found on the internet when searching for "Importing _renpysteam: ImportError('No module named _renpysteam',)" from the log... compatability and whatever.

Anyone got an idea how to fix that?

 

[cold_arctus]

Please try my solution posted here.
https://f95zone.to/threads/not-able-to-play-renpy-games.70556/post-4917268

 

[Tagfalter]

Is not about a single dev messing up some compilation, so no, this sadly did not help.
No game with a 32bit exe works at all, sadly.

 

[cold_arctus]

Is not about a single dev messing up some compilation, so no, this sadly did not help.
No game with a 32bit exe works at all, sadly.

Which game do you try to play?

Where you able to run Ren'Py SDK 7.4.1?

 

[Tagfalter]

Like I said the stuff fromt he link did NOT help.

And again: I am not talking about a specific game, I am talking about ANY recent release which had a [gamename]32.exe and not only the [gamename].exe

 

[rayminator]

Like I said the stuff fromt he link did NOT help.

And again: I am not talking about a specific game, I am talking about ANY recent release which had a [gamename]32.exe and not only the [gamename].exe

there is not much we can do we have to wait for pytom to fix this problem
so dev are not at fault here it's pytom fault

Edit:but the best thing is to make sure your OS is fully updated window/video driver/directX so on...

 

[Tagfalter]

Did not blame any dev, since I am obviously aware that this is no problem of a certain dev^^
Am a dev myself (not eroge; like in Programmer) and would not jump to any conclussion without having an idea what is going on.

So the 32.exe problem is rather global?

 

[cold_arctus]

Did not blame any dev, since I am obviously aware that this is no problem of a certain dev^^

It was a simple assumption before I knew that SDK 7.4.0 cause the issue.

So the 32.exe problem is rather global?

Apparently. But it needs more testing with different games that were compiled with SDK 7.4.0

And again: I am not talking about a specific game, I am talking about ANY recent release which had a [gamename]32.exe and not only the [gamename].exe

I fully aware of it... but since I don't play that many games I don't know which recent releases were compiled with SDK 7.4.0 (have a [gamename]32.exe and the [gamename].exe). That's why I asked you which game(s) you tried.

 

[Tagfalter]

Well lets say I download 90% of the Ren'Py games uploaded here
I should seek help

 

[dayumson92.]

also have this problem, games like Avalon, Depravity and Panacea open and close right away.
And like he said they are the only games that I play that have both 64x and 32x .exe

 

[S.O.M.]

also have this problem, games like Avalon, Depravity and Panacea open and close right away.
And like he said they are the only games that I play that have both 64x and 32x .exe

I checked Avalon. This game is made on renpy version 7.4.1. This is the reason for your problems. This version of renpy has a lot of bugs and it is not suitable for creating games. On many systems, games made in the new version may work with errors or not work at all. Developers should know and take this into account, as this problem has been known for quite a long time.

The solution to your problem:

1) Download this -

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2) Put you game into renpy sdk folder
3) Run renpy sdk.
4) Choose game (like avalon) in the left list.
5) Build distribution.
6) Choose what platform you need.

Ps: read this - 1 - 2

 

[cold_arctus]

I checked Avalon. This game is made on renpy version 7.4.1. This is the reason for your problems. This version of renpy has a lot of bugs and it is not suitable for creating games. On many systems, games made in the new version may work with errors or not work at all. Developers should know and take this into account, as this problem has been known for quite a long time.

The solution to your problem:

1) Download this -

You must be registered to see the links

2) Put you game into renpy sdk folder
3) Run renpy sdk.
4) Choose game (like avalon) in the left list.
5) Build distribution.
6) Choose what platform you need.

Ps: read this - 1 - 2

No, it doesn't work with all games.

 

[S.O.M.]

well as i know, this method helped some players and devs.

 

[The Witcher]

I checked Avalon. This game is made on renpy version 7.4.1. This is the reason for your problems. This version of renpy has a lot of bugs and it is not suitable for creating games. On many systems, games made in the new version may work with errors or not work at all. Developers should know and take this into account, as this problem has been known for quite a long time.

The solution to your problem:

1) Download this -

You must be registered to see the links

2) Put you game into renpy sdk folder
3) Run renpy sdk.
4) Choose game (like avalon) in the left list.
5) Build distribution.
6) Choose what platform you need.

Ps: read this - 1 - 2

I tried your method and it worked with one game but didn't work with 2 other games. this error shows up

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I tried another method it's simple (just put game folder {the one inside the Main Game folder} at renpy sdk folder and run renpy sdk.exe) but it had the same result above.

 

[S.O.M.]

I tried your method and it worked with one game but didn't work with 2 other games. this error shows up

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I tried another method it's simple (just put game folder {the one inside the Main Game folder} at renpy sdk folder and run renpy sdk.exe) but it had the same result above.

Did you do anything with the renpy 7.3.5 sdk folder? Because this is a bug with sdk.
Ah, i understand. Delete sdk folder and download it again.
Never move the "game" folder to the sdk folder, since renpy has its own files. You can only move the "gamename" folder to the sdk folder. Sdk like a game, program for creating projects on renpy. This program already have basic "game" folder. If you want rebuild one of games or modify it, you should move "game name" folder into sdk folder.

 

[S.O.M.]

And never use unren if you want rebuild some projects.

 

[recreation]

This release also raises the minimum requirements to run a Ren'Py game. It is now required that a user's computer have OpenGL 2, DirectX 9, OpenGL ES 2, or WebGL to run Ren'Py. The model-based renderer requires OpenGL ES 3 or WebGL 2.

With these changes, there have been a few deprecations. Ren'Py no longer runs on Windows XP.

Some anitvirus software also blocks the new releases because it thinks it is a virus.
I had hoped that 7.4.2 solves that problem, but it didn't :/

 

[S.O.M.]

A note about renpy - remember, the renpy program is always evolving, which means that the system requirements will increase and new features will be created.

What does it mean?
1) Outdated computers and software may not work correctly or not work at all in games made on renpy (and not only).
2) If you want to play games for adults, disable the antivirus software, and better remove it (still very little use from antivirus software in our time). Better install adblock into your browser.
3) Use windows 10, as this version is the most optimal and developed at the moment (software updates, new applications and good functionality). This version of windows is best suited for games.

Ps: If you have the opportunity, try to upgrade your PC. New graphics card, processor (these are the most important details). On more or less modern PCs, games made even on the new renpy version work well. Be sure to install a 64-bit operating system.
I know that many of us have financial problems. If you have the opportunity, try to save money for upgrading your PC. In our time, this is very important.

 

[Tagfalter]

1. Up to date Soft- and Hardware. Am a programmer/ gamer.
2. Using Windows internal only. Which does not alert. Neither does manually adding an exception help.
3. I do. One of the "tipps" was to run it in compatibility mode, which would make your statement 'semi-correct'.

2080 AMP Extreme
Ryzen 7
32GB RAM

The problem is just not the computer. And please do not try to talk people into upgrading their PC for a client-based problem, which's core engine ran on stone-age computers before the last update. The issue is known and is going to be fixed soon - or is, if you consider re-compiling to the newest version helps in most cases. It's just that the game-devs mostly did not publish a version AFTER the update. Once they do, the problems should be gone.

Btw I would not suggest to downgrade to 7.3.5 since that would not work on any game using some new feature/ compilation/ ... from the nwest versions.

I know you are only trying to help, but phrases about evolving tech and buying stuff for porn games? Cmon...

 

[S.O.M.]

I have two years of experience in renpy. But I will not argue, since I am not expert in this field anyway.

And read some posts here and on lemmasoft. You will understand that this problems is not solved. And it is not known when these problems will be solved.