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DA22

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Can someone explain to me how does NTR works?,because I thought that only NTR works with the MC love interest in this case Mia or it works with every single girl that the MC could fuck?,also NTR is cheating right,so how Grace could enter in that category if she is not in a relationship with the MC maybe I'm wrong and that's why I want to understand how the NTR applies
The thing is the problem here is not NTR genre, but fact that the actions one of the main girls has in the bonus scenes have for some people an influence on how she is seen and how they will interact with her considering this is a romance game and not a fuck all game. Others who do not, have no problem at all. Tags already do warn for those scenes.
 

fangrew

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Can someone explain to me how does NTR works?,because I thought that only NTR works with the MC love interest in this case Mia or it works with every single girl that the MC could fuck?,also NTR is cheating right,so how Grace could enter in that category if she is not in a relationship with the MC maybe I'm wrong and that's why I want to understand how the NTR applies
Sure there is a technical definition of ntr, but to me and a lot of people its more a tone/feeling. Like if Grace was just some random slut (think similar to emma) no one would care if she was a prostitute, heck she could still be one and i personally wouldn't care. But she is not only your aunt, but she's also someone who the game leads you into having somewhat of a romantic relationship with. The game also isn't flexible enough where you can just cut her out of your playthrough plus she has direct influence on the other love interests. And let's be real if your real life mother, gf, daughter or wife turned out to be a prostitute or a pornstar, it would bother the shit out of you. So to people that dislike ntr these sorts situations bring up the same annoyances that situations more along the lines of traditional ntr bring up.

So we consider it ntr, because if you dislike ntr you will dislike anything even remotely close to it. while if you like it, you probably wouldn't care either way.

Also for ntr haters, ntr is like what gay scenes are to straight people. If the game showed gave us a choice and if you picked that choice it would show you a scene where the main character gets fucked in his ass, you would probably close the game and never look back. It could even be something less "gay" (for lack of a better term), like the MC having dated another man, or only kissed him. This would ruin the main character for a lot of people, just like grace is "ruined" for a lot of people.
 

d_pedestrian

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Nah, it is not we had insane high expectations. Just we have another idea of what are fun avoidable bonus scenes in a romantic game as the dev did and possibly also of how those impacts a character. That can happen, both on our side and the devs side and since he is making the game, his vision will prevail as it should. :)

For me it just means auntie is no longer a LI in the game, so hope not all routes require her as one and I can still enjoy the game without her as a LI. We should also not make it worse as is.

Edit: In a way it is unfair of me, but I hope now her routes will be mainly fuck route where you do not have to romantically care for her, so I can enjoy her at least some.
True that. She went down from the most interesting character to the one I don't care about. She don't exist to me at all. She's a part of the family so she will appear a lot of time but I'll make sure to avoid any romantic relationship.

Just don't care about grace and look at other girls. That's what hooked me up to this game. I know one of the main LIs is ruined for you and me but there's nothing we can do. Just take out good things from where ever possible.

Can someone explain to me how does NTR works?,because I thought that only NTR works with the MC love interest in this case Mia or it works with every single girl that the MC could fuck?,also NTR is cheating right,so how Grace could enter in that category if she is not in a relationship with the MC maybe I'm wrong and that's why I want to understand how the NTR applies
The moment or situation which provokes uncomfortableness or jealousy comes under NTR(many may disagree but NTR scenes are made to provoke such unwanted emotions).
 

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Sure there is a technical definition of ntr, but to me and a lot of people its more a tone/feeling. Like if Grace was just some random slut (think similar to emma) no one would care if she was a prostitute, heck she could still be one and i personally wouldn't care. But she is not only your aunt, but she's also someone who the game leads you into having somewhat of a romantic relationship with. The game also isn't flexible enough where you can just cut her out of your playthrough plus she has direct influence on the other love interests. And let's be real if your real life mother, gf, daughter or wife turned out to be a prostitute or a pornstar, it would bother the shit out of you. So to people that dislike ntr these sorts situations bring up the same annoyances that situations more along the lines of traditional ntr bring up.

So we consider it ntr, because if you dislike ntr you will dislike anything even remotely close to it. while if you like it, you probably wouldn't care either way.

Also for ntr haters, ntr is like what gay scenes are to straight people. If the game showed gave us a choice and if you picked that choice it would show you a scene where the main character gets fucked in his ass, you would probably close the game and never look back. It could even be something less "gay" (for lack of a better term), like the MC having dated another man, or only kissed him. This would ruin the main character for a lot of people, just like grace is "ruined" for a lot of people.
As much as I don't like NTR, I really don't care about those scenes with Grace because they happened in the past and I can easily skip them, I know that some people those scenes are considered NTR and I know for some people that this characters is "ruined" for them, But for me I don't really think that those seams ruin the character for me just like I said before I don't like NTR, I actually hate NTR, But Even I know that those things happened in the past she might have changed she might not be the same as when she was younger and again Grace mentioned that she might be exaggerating With her Story, For me I don't consider those scenes NTR because for one MC was a baby at that time I think and second she isn't the character that you can romance yet, For me I only consider NTR if the main love interest in Cheats on the main character, In my mind that's what I consider NTR
 
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shadowr19

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True that. She went down from the most interesting character to the one I don't care about. She don't exist to me at all. She's a part of the family so she will appear a lot of time but I'll make sure to avoid any romantic relationship.

Just don't care about grace and look at other girls. That's what hooked me up to this game. I know one of the main LIs is ruined for you and me but there's nothing we can do. Just take out good things from where ever possible.
Some people might disagree with me but I see the other girls including Grace as obstacles or test to see if you are the same MC from the first game or if you have change
 

defd©™

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SwM1 is a full NTR game...
this is when she fuck with her dad in public at the strip-club
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inside the spoiler there are 2 of the numerous best sex scenes of SwM1
in the first one:
the MC + Sam + Mia + Emma
with Mia performing double and TRIPLE penetration with the help of Emma dildo:love:
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Before play the season 2 I recommend everyone to download SwM1 Ren'Py version by exploring all the plots of the story ... only the kids have to avoid the NTR story ... well if you really want to know what Mia is. She was 18/19 years old then. She is very beautiful and full of hormones that push her to explore sex!
That's the right age ... I hope that soon in future episodes Mia will realize that it's too early at 20 to repent and have second thoughts about what she has done in the past ... there is always time to repent and surely she will be able to marry someon very handsome and rich when she will 28/29 years old.

When i play a game i explore all paths then I can decide which is the better story
 
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Don't know why I'm surprised the thread turned into an NTR discussion as if the first game didn't also have it but oh well. Regarding the Grace scenes, I think people should treat them entirely as non-canon scenes. They clearly added the scenes to fill in the gaps of no sexual content and have also tried their darned hardest to try to make it ok with everyone by making it flashbacks from 15 years ago as well as Grace even hinting that It was potentially overexaggerated/made up. Either way, It was clearly not their intention to "ruin" Grace for people and although I understand some peoples arguments for why they dislike Grace I still can't help but find It a little ridiculous considering Mia has done very similar things in the past and nobody cares but Grace does something 15 years ago and now she is out of the question. People use the argument that Mia has "changed" as if Grace hasn't/can't (even though It's been 15 bloody years) and that the NTR scenes with Mia in them are non-cannon but Like I said above I would argue the Grace scenes aren't either. Regardless of everything I hope the writer/writers don't decide to change their story due to a few people on a forum and continue making what they want to make.
 
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Don't know why I'm surprised the thread turned into an NTR discussion as if the first game didn't also have it but oh well. Regarding the grace scenes, I think people should treat them entirely as non-canon scenes. They clearly added the scenes to fill in the gaps of no sexual content and have also tried their darned hardest to try to make it ok with everyone by making it flashbacks from 15 years ago as well as Grace even hinting that It was potentially overexaggerated/made up. Either way, It was clearly not their intention to "ruin" Grace for people and although I understand some peoples arguments for why they dislike grace I still can't help but find It a little ridiculous considering Mia has done very similar things in the past and nobody cares but Grace does something 15 years ago and now she is out of the question. People use the argument that Mia has "changed" as if Grace hasn't/can't (even though It's been 15 bloody years) and that the NTR scenes with Mia in them are non-cannon but Like I said above I would argue the Grace scenes aren't either. Regardless of everything I hope the writer/writers don't decide to change their story due to a few people on a forum and continue making what they want to make.
Thank you, i thought i was the only person here that had some common sense.
 
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linkinn

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Naaa I will never post there
there is nothing to hide about NTR and Mia...
She have already done that... in this game will not be NTR just because the MC is no more her boyfriend so sge can fuck everyone without any NTR!
That is way i'm not interested in discussions about NTR because
I LIKE ONLY WELL WRITTEN STORY...
(there are stupid ntr stories like there are stupid vanilla story)
and I hate hypocrisy ...

I will start to play the season of summer with Mia 2 very soon...
I was waiting for more tags... and some tag has been already added!
Why there is so much fake news in your post? Jesus Christ. I said to myself i wouldn't post here again about this subject... but.

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shadowr19

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I don't know why people still discussing NTR on this tread, The game Writer already conform there will not be any NTR dozens of times but still people are complaining and if you don't believe me here see you to yourself
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shadowr19

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There is a few here with that intention.

BTW I played through the whole thing now and did the Grace story path and I gotta say those scenes were hot as hell, but based on the story itself. She really is full of shit. Which makes this whole freak out more hilarious. All these people disavowed her over what is made up stories she told to entertain her nephew. Fucking brilliant. I for one and looking forward to seeing more from all of these characters.
I never intended to start anything with malicious intent I just wanted to talk to that subject and give you my opinion on that subject and if I said anything that offended someone or any one of the developers I'm sorry and I agree with you she's full of shit even I would start looking at my aunt and wonder "Did she really did that" I 100% agree with you she's just trying to be a cool aunt to her nephew, That's why in my opinion she's the most interesting character so far
 

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defd, can you please stop spamming this thread with all your rubbish. And ffs, as you've mentioned numerous times already, you haven't even played SwM2 yet, so what are you doing here arguing with people?

And FYI, I disagree with literally every opinion you have about this game and the direction it should go in. So just know that before you get your hopes up too much.
 

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What? she is 37?!!! She look like 25 max!

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This is one of the biggest aspects of the art that bothers me. Not only do all the characters look kinda the same (what's with the thick, black eyeliner that every girl seems to be rocking?), but because of this the disparity between their appearance and ages are completely out of whack. Vivian's like 15 years older than Mia but looks almost like she could be younger. Same goes for Isla too, who I think is meant to be in her mid to late thirties as well. Maybe I'm being oversensitive, but it kinda hurts the experience tbh.
 
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