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Siphon

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What's with porn writers and making incredibly obvious twists and then trying to act like it's a secret by just making the MC a complete moron and never asking questions?

Aside from that the update was...okay? I guess. Really short, which means the Elden Ring bit was more annoying than neat since he clearly put so much time into it. Skylar's arm tattoos are a change for the worse, and not having a choice to enter Riley's Route without femdom is meh. Dani's bits were fun at least.
 

Soulmask

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Aside from that the update was...okay? I guess. Really short, which means the Elden Ring bit was more annoying than neat since he clearly put so much time into it. Skylar's arm tattoos are a change for the worse, and not having a choice to enter Riley's Route without femdom is meh. Dani's bits were fun at least.
Yeah, seems like the dev bit more than he can chew. Don't get me wrong, this game started off great and has a lot of promise but it's just too dispersed. There's too many girls for a time travel story with two different times, meaning you will never get to fuck everyone in both timelines unless we get like 50 episodes. Then the fantasy dream sequence is nicely done but adds nothing to story and isnt fappable either. You get teased the fantasy of getting multiple threesomes yet in 6 episodes you get to go all the way(sex/creampie) with only very few characters. With this many characters, most of the cast should be fuck and done in one scene and you might be able to wrap it up in 10 episodes, with a few of those teased treesomes put in for good measure. So right now, the fantasy of having a mom/sister treesome, fucking the whole redhead family mom and both daughters at the same time, fucking the white hair family and other treesome scenes that could be super hot, well, it seems like they are very far away from being there if they happen at all.

Edit: Another obvious threesome idea is Jenny and Young Tiffany. And while we're at it, why not put in a 5-some incest orgy with Tiffany, Jessica, young Jenny and young Tiffany where you fuck all their holes. Realistic? No. Hot? Yes.
 
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RandyPhoenix

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Riley's sex scene in 0.6.0 was unlogical I would say. Because in her latest sex scene with the MC, we had the option to choose to be dom or not, yet in the 0.6.0 sex scene we have to accept femdom first to see the whole sex scene and dom variation, and that makes no sense at all. The scene itself was funny for sure, but there is no point in having dom-sub paths if you are not gonna let people choose it and take away the whole sex scene from them and place the dom scene after the sub/femdom one.
 

AnonW123

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I love this game as much as the next guy, but I need to know when Jestur is going to stop teasing us and give us the game we've all been waiting for.


I'm talking about Brad the Harem Man
Brad the No Simp King
Brad the One Pimp in the Ring
 

Soulmask

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Guys, you should give me more credit. I might be new here, but in terms of reading VNs, I'm a veteran. Fapping all night until the sun comes up, cumming 10+times in 16 hours non-stop playing, until I can barely get it up and it hurts... In terms of degen VN enjoyer, I'm pretty hard to beat.
 

Bill Temple

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What's with porn writers and making incredibly obvious twists and then trying to act like it's a secret by just making the MC a complete moron and never asking questions?
First, I'm not sure anyone other than Skylar and the few other characters are trying to act like it's a secret. It just seems like the MC hasn't put the puzzle pieces together yet. Second, I don't think this a situation exclusive to AVN's. Almost every book, movie, or TV show I read or watch with some sort of hinted mystery is woefully obvious long before the in-world reveal. When it's not even slightly hinted, it feels too unexpected and jarring. When the MC figures it out right away, unless he's been built-up as genius detective archetype, it feels forced and unrewarding. Most of the time these are the cases, so I remind myself that the MC doesn't have the same part-time third-person omniscient POV that we have, then I suspend my disbelief a little and I carry on living. When a story manages to keep the hints obscure enough while still allowing the chance to figure it out, the world collectively jizzes its pants. The thing happening in the late summer and early fall of '99, other than Jack traveling back to peep on his landlady and her sister and get up to up to other hijinks, was we were fucking losing our mind that Bruce Willis was dead all along! It was a big enough deal that it gave Shyamalamamama enough capital with Hollywood to get the green light make flops for the rest of his life.
Writers basically need their audience to be able to figure out the twist, but not too easily, and they need the MC to figure it out very very shortly after the audience. It becomes difficult to figure out how well the audience is going to pick up on clues, because intelligence, observational skills, attention to detail, deductive reasoning, and previous experience consuming mystery plots isn't equal among them. What savvy readers and viewers are able to notice is not universally deduced. It's hard to find the happy medium, especially when a sizable portion of the audience mostly cares about how much screentime is spent notching creampies and threesomes onto the MC's bedpost.
Independent writers don't have a team of professional editors at a publishing house to give feedback on how well the mystery was unveiled. Also, conventional novelists and screenwriters are able to write several chapters or the whole thing before taking time off to clear their head, then editing their work with fresh eyes. When writing a serial novel with regular deadlines, which is how most independent AVN devs do it, writers don't have that luxury.
Personally, I think Jestur wrote it right. An 18yo high school student that has time traveled a couple times probably isn't going to jump to the right conclusions as fast as the hivemind of thousands of grizzled internet coomers with access to other characters' thoughts and to scenes that the MC isn't present for.
 
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1tomadeira

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Even if I also wasn't the biggest fan of Riley scene, (not because it wasn't hilarious, it definitely was, but because it killed my boner) I really think you guys are making an uproar bigger than needed.

I'm pretty sure Jestur already understood many didn't like that, but no need continuously mention that. Just be happy that there's some Jessica's content. C'mon, no one can resist those puppy blue eyes from your sis.

Btw, speaking of criticism Jestur , while I'm not against choosing which girl you prefer, it would be nice to at least have a better explanation as to why, specially taking into account that the choice that triggers it was already 2 releases ago.

Personally I rather prefer having every girl, as most do, but I can understand if there are reasons as to why, and it wasn't still properly explained imo. In case you do anything similar, I believe you need to be more aware how long it passed since the choice that triggered, since as I mentioned, was 2 patches ago, and some may need to replay just to have their prefered girls. Even if I'm a bit sad I couldn't have both Skylar and Jessica's scenes, specially because both are along my favorites, but again, understandable if that is explained in the future.

Anyway, as usual great update, had a lot of fun as always. I felt attacked when pineapple pizza was mentioned though. :whistle:Looking forward for next update!
 

bamachine

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Love the game so far and the humor, although the Bob tripping scene outside the store is scarring. Yeah, he is a bit pathetic but I still would not wish that fate upon him. Also getting the feeling that most of the LIs that are around the same age as our MC are his daughters from his trips to the past.
 
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Bill Temple

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Even if I also wasn't the biggest fan of Riley scene, (not because it wasn't hilarious, it definitely was, but because it killed my boner) I really think you guys are making an uproar bigger than needed.

I'm pretty sure Jestur already understood many didn't like that, but no need continuously mention that. Just be happy that there's some Jessica's content. C'mon, no one can resist those puppy blue eyes from your sis.

Btw, speaking of criticism Jestur, while I'm not against choosing which girl you prefer, it would be nice to at least have a better explanation as to why, specially taking into account that the choice that triggers it was already 2 releases ago.

Personally I rather prefer having every girl, as most do, but I can understand if there are reasons as to why, and it wasn't still properly explained imo. In case you do anything similar, I believe you need to be more aware how long it passed since the choice that triggered, since as I mentioned, was 2 patches ago, and some may need to replay just to have their prefered girls. Even if I'm a bit sad I couldn't have both Skylar and Jessica's scenes, specially because both are along my favorites, but again, understandable if that is explained in the future.

Anyway, as usual great update, had a lot of fun as always. I felt attacked when pineapple pizza was mentioned though. :whistle:Looking forward for next update!
Yea, I agree that the Skylar/Jessica split seems kinda arbitrary at this point. There's been no ultimatum "her or me!", there's not even a scheduling conflict to justify it. I got the feeling we'll be able to smooth things over in the future either way, so I ended up modding it anyway, setting both SkylarRisk and JessicaRisk to true and changing a couple ifs into elifs
 

Siphon

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Writers basically need their audience to be able to figure out the twist, but not too easily, and they need the MC to figure it out very very shortly after the audience.
I mean, the problem still remains that it is too obvious to the players what is going on then and thus needs to be touched up. Or, as someone else suggested, have the MC consider it before discarding the idea of it or resolving to wait until she tells him.

Also, somewhat related, anyone else notice that Skylar mentioned she was happy to have MC inside her 'again' despite this being the first time they've fucked? Did we get cucked by our future self?
 

Wizard_Shiryuu

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First, I'm not sure anyone other than Skylar and the few other characters are trying to act like it's a secret. It just seems like the MC hasn't put the puzzle pieces together yet. Second, I don't think this a situation exclusive to AVN's. Almost every book, movie, or TV show I read or watch with some sort of hinted mystery is woefully obvious long before the in-world reveal. When it's not even slightly hinted, it feels too unexpected and jarring. When the MC figures it out right away, unless he's been built-up as genius detective archetype, it feels forced and unrewarding. Most of the time these are the cases, so I remind myself that the MC doesn't have the same part-time third-person omniscient POV that we have, then I suspend my disbelief a little and I carry on living. When a story manages to keep the hints obscure enough while still allowing the chance to figure it out, the world collectively jizzes its pants. The thing happening in the late summer and early fall of '99, other than Jack traveling back to peep on his landlady and her sister and get up to up to other hijinks, was we were fucking losing our mind that Bruce Willis was dead all along! It was a big enough deal that it gave Shyamalamamama enough capital with Hollywood to get the green light make flops for the rest of his life.
Writers basically need their audience to be able to figure out the twist, but not too easily, and they need the MC to figure it out very very shortly after the audience. It becomes difficult to figure out how well the audience is going to pick up on clues, because intelligence, observational skills, attention to detail, deductive reasoning, and previous experience consuming mystery plots isn't equal among them. What savvy readers and viewers are able to notice is not universally deduced. It's hard to find the happy medium, especially when a sizable portion of the audience mostly cares about how much screentime is spent notching creampies and threesomes onto the MC's bedpost.
Independent writers don't have a team of professional editors at a publishing house to give feedback on how well the mystery was unveiled. Also, conventional novelists and screenwriters are able to write several chapters or the whole thing before taking time off to clear their head, then editing their work with fresh eyes. When writing a serial novel with regular deadlines, which is how most independent AVN devs do it, writers don't have that luxury.
Personally, I think Jestur wrote it right. An 18yo high school student that has time traveled a couple times probably isn't going to jump to the right conclusions as fast as the hivemind of thousands of grizzled internet coomers with access to other characters' thoughts and to scenes that the MC isn't present for.
Absolutely agree, but I'd like to add something more. We as the audience know about tropes and know this is a story, so we have some expectations, but the MC is a real person in his own world, so he thinks as a person in his situation would, and this makes some disconnection between us the audience and the MC. I don't blame him for not contemplating the possibility of Skylar being another time traveller. This is something we can guess, or at least consider an option, but someone on the MC's shoes wouldn't do.
 

Simpgor

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I don't blame him for not contemplating the possibility of Skylar being another time traveller. This is something we can guess, or at least consider an option, but someone on the MC's shoes wouldn't do.
He has to atleast think she is a tattoomancer, i feel like anybody that has gotten any sort of tattoo, knows someone with a tattoo, or has watched any of the plethora of of tattoos shows that premiered pre 2019 pretty instantly knew something was up no hive mind needed, but I agree with the both of you that things need to be hinted at and because this is a AVN it's better to go in with a sledgehammer than a trim hammer.

I'm more interested in what Siphon said, how would people feel about Skylar having sex with future or past MC (basically a MC timeline that MC we play as hasn't experienced)? I think from Skylars POV it would be fine to have sex with the past MC but the future MC could feel kind of gross? (More the more time has passed). If the future MC had sex with her though that's pretty fucked up on "our" part, unless it was a Skylar x Skylar x MC 3some it does sort of feel like "cucking". Mainly due to the question why would future MC want to fuck Skylar from the past and not """"his""""" skylar?

I'm a story before personal feelings kinda reader so I'm down but dangerous waters these be :HideThePain:

Edit: FWIW tattoo healing times could be different in Ripples but this game specifically points out that Darci took off her shoes and slid on her socks, if sliding shoes haven't been invented I doubt instant tats have either
 
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I see, well I only think of one person when I see the name Eddie "Esa Vato, Viva La Rassa, Latino Heat".


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The newer version is enjoyable as always, with a focus on character development and fan service, which I love. However, there seems to be a lack of main story progression. This isn't necessarily a problem and can potentially be addressed in future chapters. These are just my opinions.
 
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Wizard_Shiryuu

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He has to atleast think she is a tattoomancer, i feel like anybody that has gotten any sort of tattoo, knows someone with a tattoo, or has watched any of the plethora of of tattoos shows that premiered pre 2019 pretty instantly knew something was up no hive mind needed, but I agree with the both of you that things need to be hinted at and because this is a AVN it's better to go in with a sledgehammer than a trim hammer.

I'm more interested in what Siphon said, how would people feel about Skylar having sex with future or past MC (basically a MC timeline that MC we play as hasn't experienced)? I think from Skylars POV it would be fine to have sex with the past MC but the future MC could feel kind of gross? (More the more time has passed). If the future MC had sex with her though that's pretty fucked up on "our" part, unless it was a Skylar x Skylar x MC 3some it does sort of feel like "cucking". Mainly due to the question why would future MC want to fuck Skylar from the past and not """"his""""" skylar?

I'm a story before personal feelings kinda reader so I'm down but dangerous waters these be :HideThePain:

Edit: FWIW tattoo healing times could be different in Ripples but this game specifically points out that Darci took off her shoes and slid on her socks, if sliding shoes haven't been invented I doubt instant tats have either
That's also true, despite the NTRish of the whole situation (with yourself :KEK: ) is that the MC and Skylar's first time with each other wouldn't be at the same moment. Which is weird, among other weird stuff.
 
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