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Just another connection between Jenny/Jackie ;)
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Are the Ripples lore-heads trying to make connection between these two? it doesnt make sense in the story right? Jackie is like 50+ so at the lowest she would be 30 right?
Also I don't really see this as a connection, its like saying two people are possibly the same person because they both like flowers
 

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Are the Ripples lore-heads trying to make connection between these two? it doesnt make sense in the story right? Jackie is like 50+ so at the lowest she would be 30 right?
Also I don't really see this as a connection, its like saying two people are possibly the same person because they both like flowers
Clearly the ONLY people that can laugh/smile must be deeply deeply romantically involved with the MC and time travel!
 

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Are the Ripples lore-heads trying to make connection between these two? it doesnt make sense in the story right? Jackie is like 50+ so at the lowest she would be 30 right?
Also I don't really see this as a connection, its like saying two people are possibly the same person because they both like flowers
Clearly the ONLY people that can laugh/smile must be deeply deeply romantically involved with the MC and time travel!
There's a theory that she was thrown back 20(?) years from the date of the accident and has come forward from that earlier time. Guess we'll see.

As for the other assertion, while not dispositive of anything, when a Dev uses very similar phrasing for two characters that look like they could be the same person in a time travel VN, connecting those things and tagging them as possible Easter eggs, rather than mere coincidence, isn't whacky and silly. Could it simply be a phrasing Jestur liked and used in a couple of different places? Sure. Could it be a hint at something else? Maybe - it's a time travel VN, after all, and we only know the one time "rule" we've been told about, not all the rules that may actually come into play.

You don't have to believe those things are connected, but don't ridicule unless you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt they they are not.
 

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There's a theory that she was thrown back 20(?) years from the date of the accident and has come forward from that earlier time. Guess we'll see.

As for the other assertion, while not dispositive of anything, when a Dev uses very similar phrasing for two characters that look like they could be the same person in a time travel VN, connecting those things and tagging them as possible Easter eggs, rather than mere coincidence, isn't whacky and silly. Could it simply be a phrasing Jestur liked and used in a couple of different places? Sure. Could it be a hint at something else? Maybe - it's a time travel VN, after all, and we only know the one time "rule" we've been told about, not all the rules that may actually come into play.

You don't have to believe those things are connected, but don't ridicule unless you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt they they are not.
Similar phrasing? One says I like to "SEE YOU SMILE" the other is saying "YOU WANT TO SEE ME SMILE?".....

Do you think the family dentist is also involved in time travel because he commented on the MCs smile?

Keep in mind she would have had to remember THE EXACT comment she made decades ago, and hope that MC doesn't put it together? If she wanted MC to have a hint she'd be dropping bigger ones....
 
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Similar phrasing? One says I like to "SEE YOU SMILE" the other is saying "YOU WANT TO SEE ME SMILE?".....

Do you think the family dentist is also involved in time travel because he commented on the MCs smile?

Keep in mind she would have had to remember THE EXACT comment she made decades ago, and hope that MC doesn't put it together? If she wanted MC to have a hint she'd be dropping bigger ones....
Yeah, she remembers this moment perfectly :love:
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Yeah, she remembers this moment perfectly :love:
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That's not the smile moment.... so your "comparison" still doesn't work? Like what are you comparing now? Her saying she wants a boy she likes to try their best and a teacher wanting her student (and granddaughters best friend) to do their best .....? Does she want MC to know or not? If she doesn't why drop the hint? If she does why not drop a bigger hint? Like her saying (as an old lady) oh my favorite game is [insert the game she let you win here] instead of just saying she "loves games"

Are you one of those people who thinks every girl who is 18-20 in town is secretly MCs kid?
 

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There's a theory that she was thrown back 20(?) years from the date of the accident and has come forward from that earlier time. Guess we'll see.

As for the other assertion, while not dispositive of anything, when a Dev uses very similar phrasing for two characters that look like they could be the same person in a time travel VN, connecting those things and tagging them as possible Easter eggs, rather than mere coincidence, isn't whacky and silly. Could it simply be a phrasing Jestur liked and used in a couple of different places? Sure. Could it be a hint at something else? Maybe - it's a time travel VN, after all, and we only know the one time "rule" we've been told about, not all the rules that may actually come into play.

You don't have to believe those things are connected, but don't ridicule unless you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt they they are not.
I can agree with this theory a bit with the fact that Jackie and Jenny are both gamers (and apparently good), but my comment was based on how the original "connection" in the comment I replied to was just two characters saying somewhat similar things.
I am aware the dev of this game has a lot of easter eggs, but in this case I fail to see this as one.

"but don't ridicule unless you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt they they are not." The burden of proof when it comes to theories is usually on the people who believe in the theory. Also I would hardly call what either me or Simpgor said ridicule.
 
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when a Dev uses very similar phrasing for two characters that look like they could be the same person in a time travel VN, connecting those things and tagging them as possible Easter eggs, rather than mere coincidence, isn't whacky and silly.
Similar phrasing? One says I like to "SEE YOU SMILE" the other is saying "YOU WANT TO SEE ME SMILE?".....

Do you think the family dentist is also involved in time travel because he commented on the MCs smile?
Lol or Jestur maybe is using misdirection or you both misdirect yourselves in the conversation (or maybe I'm the "misdirector" :p), either or neither way this is too funny :ROFLMAO:
Don't mind me much, just trying to lighten the mood a bit hehe

Here goes a TBBT video about time travel "grammar" to lighten even more the mood with laughter
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Similar phrasing? One says I like to "SEE YOU SMILE" the other is saying "YOU WANT TO SEE ME SMILE?".....

Do you think the family dentist is also involved in time travel because he commented on the MCs smile?

Keep in mind she would have had to remember THE EXACT comment she made decades ago, and hope that MC doesn't put it together? If she wanted MC to have a hint she'd be dropping bigger ones....
And if Jackie is Jenny, she could clearly be referencing the prior interaction. And why wouldn't she remember? After all, MC looks exactly like he did decades ago because in his current reality he's only a few days older than he was in that interaction. While you may not have the faculties to remember things at 50-ish that happened when you were 20-ish, some of us have great recall when an event is something that was significant and/or with a person that was significant. When I see someone from my 20s that I haven't seen for 30 years, seeing them will unlock memories and events from that past. And keep in mind, if Jackie is Jenny, she's had years to come to the realization that MC is the same person she met before the accident, and is also realizing that he has hit that point in his life where his time travels are starting and their past interactions are real-time for him. Now would be the precise time to start dropping a subtle hint as to who she is here and there - she certainly isn't going to simply blurt it out without testing the waters to confirm he's in his time travel phase.

There is also "VN logic", which dictates that any coincidence really isn't a coincidence. This logic is present in books, TV and movies, as well. So, rather than being arrogantly dismissive, open your mind a little - let that corpus callosum do what it was designed to do and let the logical side and the creative side talk to one another a little bit. ;)

And, again - I don't know if this is what's going on or not, but in a FUCKING TIME TRAVEL VN it isn't an unreasonable bit of speculation. What is unreasonable is being completely dismissive (and increasingly dickish) without clear evidence to the contrary.

That's not the smile moment.... so your "comparison" still doesn't work? Like what are you comparing now? Her saying she wants a boy she likes to try their best and a teacher wanting her student (and granddaughters best friend) to do their best .....? Does she want MC to know or not? If she doesn't why drop the hint? If she does why not drop a bigger hint? Like her saying (as an old lady) oh my favorite game is [insert the game she let you win here] instead of just saying she "loves games"

Are you one of those people who thinks every girl who is 18-20 in town is secretly MCs kid?
That is what she said immediately after his "smile" comment. Want to try again?
 

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And if Jackie is Jenny, she could clearly be referencing the prior interaction. And why wouldn't she remember? After all, MC looks exactly like he did decades ago because in his current reality he's only a few days older than he was in that interaction. While you may not have the faculties to remember things at 50-ish that happened when you were 20-ish, some of us have great recall when an event is something that was significant and/or with a person that was significant. When I see someone from my 20s that I haven't seen for 30 years, seeing them will unlock memories and events from that past. And keep in mind, if Jackie is Jenny, she's had years to come to the realization that MC is the same person she met before the accident, and is also realizing that he has hit that point in his life where his time travels are starting and their past interactions are real-time for him. Now would be the precise time to start dropping a subtle hint as to who she is here and there - she certainly isn't going to simply blurt it out without testing the waters to confirm he's in his time travel phase.

There is also "VN logic", which dictates that any coincidence really isn't a coincidence. This logic is present in books, TV and movies, as well. So, rather than being arrogantly dismissive, open your mind a little - let that corpus callosum do what it was designed to do and let the logical side and the creative side talk to one another a little bit. ;)

And, again - I don't know if this is what's going on or not, but in a FUCKING TIME TRAVEL VN it isn't an unreasonable bit of speculation. What is unreasonable is being completely dismissive (and increasingly dickish) without clear evidence to the contrary.

And putting it In a spoiler makes you less of a dick? :KEK:

Is it because I said "one of those people"? When we both know there are people who SCREAM at the idea that anything in this game is not incest :HideThePain:
Or because I wanted evidence? And then pointed out holes? Am I not allowed to do that to anybody or just you in particular?

Edit: Damn literally called that he was mad at being referred to as someone who thinks something :BootyTime:
 

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"but don't ridicule unless you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt they they are not." The burden of proof when it comes to theories is usually on the people who believe in the theory. Also I would hardly call what either me or Simpgor said ridicule.
Don't agree with your "burden of proof" comment as there is no proof to confirm the connection, and there is no proof to disassociate any connection. Since neither exists, being completely dismissive of a theory before it can be wholly ruled out is not the reasonable tack. "Ripples lore heads" sounds a little bit like some light ridicule, and simp's comment was clear and unequivocal ridicule, as proven out by his follow-up statements. He's probably making the list if he continues to use the same tone.

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Don't agree with your "burden of proof" comment as there is no proof to confirm the connection, and there is no proof to disassociate any connection. Since neither exists, being completely dismissive of a theory before it can be wholly ruled out is the reasonable tack. "Ripples lore heads" sounds a little bit like some light ridicule, and simp's comment was clear and unequivocal ridicule, as proven out by his follow-up statements. He's probably making the list if he continues to use the same tone.
You are threatening a block..... because you perceived multiple people as insulting you?

Lore head is in no way an insult? Keepers of lore are always well respected and important especially in threads that promote discussions. Without lore heads it would just be the same as any coomer thread where it's just "muh waifu sex giv mor scne".
 

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Don't agree with your "burden of proof" comment as there is no proof to confirm the connection, and there is no proof to disassociate any connection. Since neither exists, being completely dismissive of a theory before it can be wholly ruled out is not the reasonable tack. "Ripples lore heads" sounds a little bit like some light ridicule, and simp's comment was clear and unequivocal ridicule, as proven out by his follow-up statements. He's probably making the list if he continues to use the same tone.

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You know what, I could have been a bit more concise on my original comment.
"Ripples lore heads" wasn't really meant to be used in a demeaning way, more just trying to say that there are people who know a lot more about the story than me. I have great respect for the people who read into the games and piece the little things together, it's interesting stuff.
I genuinely was wondering if there was a connection to be made between the two, you answered that and I agreed that there are the makings of a compelling theory there.
I agree that the "burden of proof" thing is a bit binary, as obviously there is no proof to the theory (yet), but I think when you posit a theory, like Jackie being Jenny after having gone back in time, then the people who aren't yet privy to all the details of this theory have the right to question it.

Also, yeah, Simpgor could be a lot more civil, no need for the demeaning tone, we are trying to have a conversation, not a shit-flinging contest.
 
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