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Takkatakka

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My suspension of disbelief tends to be set at the level of the least believable thing. Which in this story should surely be the activity that goes against all known laws of physics and is therefore not simply implausible but literally impossible.

There is one pair of scenes (one follows the other) that should be rewritten for the canon non-incest story. They present something as a taboo that no rational person would consider taboo. But everything else works well without the patch.
I mean...yeah, time travel is obviously more unbelievable than incest. But if you play a game about time travel, you have to extend your suspension of disbelief accordingly or playing the game would make no sense. But you would still want the characters to act and behave somewhat believable even if the premise of the whole story is by default unrealistic and/or unbelievable.
 

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Part 2 includes the party - and Tiffany will be there.

I'm hoping that some sexy time in the past (a grateful Tiffany wants to show the MC that she appreciates what he did for her, perhaps even egged on by Scarlett) will trigger memories in the present, paving the way for 2019 Tiffany to pursue the MC/be more open in her desires to have sexy time with him.

We have to see how these encounters work - are there ripples from past encounters that carry into the present?

I'm hopeful!

Cheers!! :coffee:
When Tiffany and Valerie talk about how Tiff was saved by a guy looking exactly like MC, they both reference that something else happened and Tiffany doesn't want to elaborate more than that, and by how they react to it, I think it implied that it was how Tiffany thanked her savior *very* gratefully :D so lewd content with Tiffany is in MC's future, but in Tiffany's past xD whether the content is very extensive or not might be linked to a choice to be on hher path or not, but it's 100% sure that something did happen.
 
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screenshot0003.png Good lord! If Scarlett's top was any tighter not only would her tits pop out happy to breathe some air, they'd be registered as WMDs :KEK:
Thing is I've seen it happen in Epic Lust's games (both male & female) so this wouldn't be a first for me
Not that I'm complaining, of course :cool:
 
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I mean...yeah, time travel is obviously more unbelievable than incest. But if you play a game about time travel, you have to extend your suspension of disbelief accordingly or playing the game would make no sense. But you would still want the characters to act and behave somewhat believable even if the premise of the whole story is by default unrealistic and/or unbelievable.
All the women lusting after the MC, some (possibly all) to the point of being willing to share him as long as they get a turn, isn't exactly believable, if we're talking realism and not story logic.

I consider how a character behaves believable if it is consistent with the story and how the characters have been presented. With that in mind I see nothing inconsistent about family, vs. people who cared enough for a person to take him in and raise him when his father disappeared and treat him as family, being included in that host of horny women.

I'm not advocating anyone use the patch. That's up to the individual and their preferences. But I think there is a very weak case for not using it based on how believable it is.
 

Takkatakka

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I'm not advocating anyone use the patch. That's up to the individual and their preferences. But I think there is a very weak case for not using it based on how believable it is.
My point was exactly: "How much would incest bother you and infringe on your suspension of disbelief."

So it is completely subjective to begin with. If it doesn't hinder your suspension of disbelief, then it obviously doesn't matter and you can use the patch just fine.

But the opinion about if the game works better with or without the patch was very divisive in the thread with about an equal number of people saying that it makes more sense with the patch as were saying that it makes more sense without.
 
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The incest patch is going to have a hell of a time when it's revealed MC is the father of all the current time girls he's been having sex with.
 

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The incest patch is going to have a hell of a time when it's revealed MC is the father of all the current time girls he's been having sex with.
Seems unlikely to be where the dev gonna go with the story, he can't anyway because of patreon and as you just stated it's not something that can be addressed with a patch. Especially since the baby makings and pregnancies would be player involved with choice made in game not just backstories stuff. There is also other thing that won't work if he go that way anyway, the twins with Scarlett are a good example, they are 18 but we go 20 years back in the past in which she won't get pregnant with them in more than over a year, the game will never go for as long as a in game year.

Speaking of ingame time i feel like ranting (sorry?) last update was even barely a IG day(which felt short) with a shity pay off for the story building and darci mom disappearance... really 3 comically evil bad written and uninteresting dudes in a shity lab and then Darci and MC casually become murderer and it's all good nobody care?...honestly i feel like the game is going nowhere.
 
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Well his future self is old AF so he's probably gotten stuck in the past and had to live through the 20 years at some point.
 

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Seems unlikely to be where the dev gonna go with the story, he can't anyway because of patreon and as you just stated it's not something that can be addressed with a patch. Especially since the baby makings and pregnancies would be player involved with choice made in game not just backstories stuff. There is also other thing that won't work if he go that way anyway, the twins with Scarlett are a good example, they are 18 but we go 20 years back in the past in which she won't get pregnant with them in more than over a year, the game will never go for as long as a in game year.
It's a game about time travel, I'm not certain you understand how to think 4th dimensionally.
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Seems unlikely to be where the dev gonna go with the story, he can't anyway because of patreon and as you just stated it's not something that can be addressed with a patch. Especially since the baby makings and pregnancies would be player involved with choice made in game not just backstories stuff. There is also other thing that won't work if he go that way anyway, the twins with Scarlett are a good example, they are 18 but we go 20 years back in the past in which she won't get pregnant with them in more than over a year, the game will never go for as long as a in game year.

Speaking of ingame time i feel like ranting (sorry?) last update was even barely a IG day(which felt short) with a shity pay off for the story building and darci mom disappearance... really 3 comically evil bad written and uninteresting dudes in a shity lab and then Darci and MC casually become murderer and it's all good nobody care?...honestly i feel like the game is going nowhere.
It's a game about time travel, I'm not certain you understand how to think 4th dimensionally.
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We know now 100% that it is possible to travel to different points in time, the other Darci proves that not only can you go back to more than just X number of years in the past but that at least two versions of you can be there at the same time. That alone nukes a lot of people's old theories.

And not for nothing but if the Mc isn't most, if not all, of the girl's father post big sis then that gets really close to NTR territory. The Mc and several of the moms are now officially together so those ladies hooking up with others get into troubling territories. There would need to be a third option other than the girls getting with other guys after the Mc has gotten with them, like them going to sperm banks or something (as just one idea). Otherwise... well... I just hope Jestur is a smart as he has been so far.
 
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Karla Jean

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We know now 100% that it is possible to travel to different points in time, the other Darci proves that not only can you go back to more than just X number of years in the past but that at least two versions of you can be there at the same time. That alone nukes a lot of people's old theories.
Not necessarily. If Darci-A went back to 1999 and then stayed there, she could age twenty years and then go back and save Darci-B and the Main Character. Don't think that's what happened, but it's possible.
 

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Not necessarily. If Darci-A went back to 1999 and then stayed there, she could age twenty years and then go back and save Darci-B and the Main Character. Don't think that's what happened, but it's possible.
Not really, because this time with the Mc was the first time Darci went back in time. Another version of her couldn't have gone back before the version of her with Mc if it is fixed to X-number of years in a parallel sense. So, to travel back to before herself and wait would also mean that she was traveling back to different point in time just as much as if she had found a way to travel relatively free though time. The two Darcis means that time travel is more fluid than the early time travel moments made it seem in at least some way. The fixed 20 years or so that everyone had previously been assuming must be false, though the true way it works is still unknown. However it plays out though, the door is open to all manner of time travel shenanigans.

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As an aside:

At the end of the day, I honestly hope it just goes with the basic Looper explanation, "I don't want to talk about time travel because if we start talking about it then we're going to be here all day talking about it, making diagrams with straws."

Basically, just let it happen how it does and then say, "It's all fiction, it works how I (Jestur) wants it to, and I don't care about perceived paradoxes and stuff, it just works this way, because I invented it and am the God of this fictional universe." :LOL:

Not that theory craft isn't fun, but at the end of the day I just want to the story to be satisfying even if that means some "rules" of time travel that other people made up for their version of the fiction are "broken." Similar to when people act like there are real rules to things like Vampires and then get mad when a vampire story comes along and "breaks" them. Like, they aren't real, the rules can be whatever the creator wants them to be, let alone that many establish franchise have different rules.

But I'm rambling again, :ROFLMAO: I'll stop now.
 

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Not really, because this time with the Mc was the first time Darci went back in time. Another version of her couldn't have gone back before the version of her with Mc if it is fixed to X-number of years in a parallel sense. So, to travel back to before herself and wait would also mean that she was traveling back to different point in time just as much as if she had found a way to travel relatively free though time. The two Darcis means that time travel is more fluid than the early time travel moments made it seem in at least some way. The fixed 20 years or so that everyone had previously been assuming must be false, though the true way it works is still unknown. However it plays out though, the door is open to all manner of time travel shenanigans.
Okay, so going along with a scenario I don't really believe in... It is the first time Darci went back in time, but that wouldn't mean that the other Darci would have had to travel back further. If Darci originally went back in time on the same mission but there wasn't an older Darci to rescue them, it could have had a different result. Like, say, the Main Character dying. Darci is still able to save her mom, but the only way to save the MC is by hunkering down and waiting. She goes back in time for the second time right before the Darci we know goes back her first time (the boom we heard before the MC used the time machine) and waits for the moment to intervene. No breaking the 20 year rule.
 
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Okay, so going along with a scenario I don't really believe in... It is the first time Darci went back in time, but that wouldn't mean that the other Darci would have had to travel back further. If Darci originally went back in time on the same mission but there wasn't an older Darci to rescue them, it could have had a different result. Like, say, the Main Character dying. Darci is still able to save her mom, but the only way to save the MC is by hunkering down and waiting. She goes back in time for the second time right before the Darci we know goes back her first time (the boom we heard before the MC used the time machine) and waits for the moment to intervene. No breaking the 20 year rule.
I suppose something like that is possible, the only thing would be that I don't think sword-Darci looks 20 years older than current Darci, but it is possible I suppose. Though the idea of loop variants would be a whole new can of worms.
 

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the whole darci thing is self resolved. once MC and darci finish saving the day, current darci will then go back systematically to each time and location ninja darci appeared and save herself. like captain america returning all the stone and time stolen junk and placing in its proper place, but more realistic like when rick n morty have to sew snake disguises for themselves instead of enjoying the holiday, cause eventually they have to do it otherwise it never got done. which as we all learned from futurama in order for everything to make sense, bender had to go back in time and stick the time code on fry's ass, I'm bender, but at the end
 

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We know now 100% that it is possible to travel to different points in time, the other Darci proves that not only can you go back to more than just X number of years in the past but that at least two versions of you can be there at the same time. That alone nukes a lot of people's old theories.

And not for nothing but if the Mc isn't most, if not all, of the girl's father post big sis then that gets really close to NTR territory. The Mc and several of the moms are now officially together so those ladies hooking up with others get into troubling territories. There would need to be a third option other than the girls getting with other guys after the Mc has gotten with them, like them going to sperm banks or something (as just one idea). Otherwise... well... I just hope Jestur is a smart as he has been so far.
Adoption also avoids that path.
 
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Not necessarily. If Darci-A went back to 1999 and then stayed there, she could age twenty years and then go back and save Darci-B and the Main Character. Don't think that's what happened, but it's possible.
You had time traveling Darci before that. Remember the shit-ninja. That was totally Darci throwing shit on Shelby.
 
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