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This build fixes a few more issues, hopefully, mainly ones involving girls overlapping each other in unexpected ways and some various typos and other bugs. I'm working on assets for 1.62 right now (expect it several months from now), and will also soon do a poll for the next girl to get a 69 pose.
 
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1.61f (some spring cleaning)
This build fixes a few more issues, hopefully, mainly ones involving girls overlapping each other in unexpected ways and some various typos and other bugs. I'm working on assets for 1.62 right now (expect it several months from now), and will also soon do a poll for the next girl to get a 69 pose.
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Wabobo

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question, if our character has the ability to even block out Prof. X's mind reading. how the fuck did the sentinel even detect them? i mean youd think itd extend to fucking with sentinel scanning.
 
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aesir150

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It's amazing how bad the art has become. I have just opened the game and when it comes to blowjobs Rogue looks retarded and Wanda like the freaking Joker!
But even the movements have, somehow, gotten worse.
I said it year ago I think Oni wants to kill the game and just hates his own audience.

I am personally sticking with version 1.54c to avoid any future horrors Oni wishes to inflict on us.

Honestly I feel Oni just wants to stop making the game but doesn't want to stop raking in the Patreon money. Which is why he keeps making characters ugly, disfigured, or weirdly out of proportions to slowly turn us off.

For instance I absolutely love Kitty in this game and how she looks. But her head is way too big during blow job scenes, and looks like the insane anime face angle.

Emma absolute bombshell during her standing animation and doggy animations. But her proportions / perspective is all messed up during the cow girl animations. Her blowjob animation looks like a weird copy and paste of Kitty's face, where he lazily just used the paint bucket tool to change the lipstick and eyebrow colors.

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I think Jean looks amazing, but to be honest if you were to show me a group picture and told me to find Jean Grey if I hadn't played the game before I would be like I don't see her anywhere cause the Jean we have in game doesn't look like any iteration of Jean of I have seen before.

Gwen is proportions are all over the place. For instance her normal head is way too wide and face has the same silhouette as strawberry, and she is way too thick compared to what she is supposed to look like. While her blow job face make her look like a completely different person, like Bert the Turtle with a wig instead of a pith helmet eating your banana, not to mention her body becomes super narrow all a sudden. Like look how big / wide her head is compared to Emma's head. Then compare Gwen to like Rogue or Kitty or Laura, she is like twice as wide as they are.

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Storm's cowgirl animation kinda makes it seem like she just floats up and down.

Jubilee's feet in her missionary pose literally blocks her pussy / ass. And during her blowjob / titjob animation, the shading on face somehow makes her go from like a cute young looking Asian girl to somehow looking like a old granny. Also the shading makes her look like she has a poorly shaven beard on the left half of her face (right side from our perspective). Like why does she have a weird like monocle bright spot on the right side of her face (left side from our perspective), like why is her nose so inconsistently shaded?

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Betsy (Psylocke) looks weird. Kind of like Voldemort (snake like appearance) trying to cosplay as wide faced Korean girl with short purple hair. Or maybe a Thai ladyboy (tranny) street hooker. Like her mouth is too big, her makeup make her eyes look snakelike. Her jawline is too long, and she has no cheeks. Her eyebrow is too high up. There is so many ways he could of drawn her, and I know he could of done way better since I have seen him draw her better in his other works.

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Squirrel girl is just disturbing all around. Just looks like an obese inbred midwestern girl with down syndrome that is a potential axe murderer or someone who would break your legs with a hammer.
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Example of good looking Doreen (Squirrel Girl)

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Example of good looking Psylocke

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I just came back and haven't played this game since version 1.54b, but Jesus Christ what the hell did Oni do to Rogue's blow job animation?

It looks awful. Bad proportions, weird shading, horrible pose again.

The original one looked out of place cause of how like 2D it looked, but it was way better than the new animation because Rogue actually looked like Rogue.

I think this is evidence for my theory I posted back in January of 2024.

https://f95zone.to/threads/rogue-like-evolution-v1-6d-oni.14/post-12807967



Oni's terrible lack of consistency strikes again. I feel like this game is just catfish simulator at this point. Standing poses look great, but when you get to the boning, the girls look like completely different people.
 
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Wajean

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I said it year ago I think Oni wants to kill the game and just hates his own audience.

I am personally sticking with version 1.54c to avoid any future horrors Oni wishes to inflict on us.
Tbh, I blamed all of this on Oni being a senile fuck. But with how little that bastard actually works, the fact that he went back to worsen poses that were simple and perfect, I've started to think you might be right. You might be right, damn it!
 

sleepingkirby

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Tbh, I blamed all of this on Oni being a senile fuck. But with how little that bastard actually works, the fact that he went back to worsen poses that were simple and perfect, I've started to think you might be right. You might be right, damn it!
You guys say that, but the patreon is pretty active and it's filled with overwhelming positive reception for these changes. As far as I can tell, the number of paid subscribers hasn't really budged since I've joined it. Like, if I were a neutral third party, new to both the game and this thread and I read the comments on his patreon and then the things people say here, the conclusion I would have is that the people here are complaining because the game is not *exactly*, down to the pixel, what they're hoping to get.
 

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You guys say that, but the patreon is pretty active and it's filled with overwhelming positive reception for these changes. As far as I can tell, the number of paid subscribers hasn't really budged since I've joined it. Like, if I were a neutral third party, new to both the game and this thread and I read the comments on his patreon and then the things people say here, the conclusion I would have is that the people here are complaining because the game is not *exactly*, down to the pixel, what they're hoping to get.
So those peeps at Patreon are cool with how fugly Betsy came out, Tree Monster and Rogue's redo? Mfs must be about to collapse from the copium overdose, smh.
 

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So those peeps at Patreon are cool with how fugly Betsy came out, Tree Monster and Rogue's redo? Mfs must be about to collapse from the copium overdose, smh.
I'm scrolling through the comments looking for any complains and, honestly, having a hard time finding any. No high praise either but no complaints. I think most people there just know that there might be girls that's not to their taste and that's okay. Not everything has to be for them.

But also:



Doreen
12%


Wanda
32%


Lorna
16%


Betsy
39%
Poll ended Oct 3, 2023 · 2,996 votes total
Doreen got 12%. Lorna got 16%

This is the poll that won Wanda:
Wanda
39%


Lorna
13%


Illyana
35%


Megan
13%
Poll ended Oct 12, 2024 · 2,821 votes total
I'm scrolling through, I found the post that introduced Doreen and the people excited for her. So it's not copium. They came. They voted. They voted on numbers close to Lorna and Megan.

Here are some comments from the poll with Doreen about Doreen (keep in mind, the poll had pictures of all of them. Full body):
1y
Damn, I missed the fat squirrel winning it....
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1y
GAH, Every year I vote Doreen, and every year you all disappoint me
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1y
Chubby Chicks need love too people!!
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1y
One day we will see Doreen(
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1y
Dorren lookin thicc my guy!
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1y
bro wheres all my dorren lovers we gotta represent



Found some more on the post where Doreen was released:
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11mo
Doreen might be one if not my fav character in this game. So glad you put her in it

11mo
We won Doreen bros. We won.
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11mo
Doreen isn't my cup of tea, but I know she's got her share of ardent supporters who have been waiting on her for a long time, so I support this move. Keep up the good work!
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11mo
This version need to be fix and add more some content. Keep it up guys and i love Doreen too I still keep waiting for Magik and Domino too
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11mo
Thank you very much for adding Doreen! Variety is often neglected and we already have dozens of supermodels in the game. She might not be to everyone's taste, but I'm certainly excited to see her added to the roster. Plus she's not just a Squirrel Girl, but also a Beaver Girl. Nice! :)
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11mo
Lot of ppl complaining about Doreen but she is hot so...cry
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11mo
I've been voting Doreen since she was first an option in the polls. Might have been the first poll, I don't remember. A victory was achieved today
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11mo
Doreen the squirrel girl. that great but i want Magik and Domino too, They are so hot
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11mo
While Doreen is hard to picture as being "sexy", I glad that we are adding characters with new body types. I look forward to seeing more of the curves.



Oh! Found some complaints!
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11mo
Didn't really want to add a furry element to the game. :(
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11mo
Ah yes, Doreen, the girl no one really wanted, is getting added.
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11mo
So she ends up last in the poll and she gets added. That is very disappointing with a mix of ew. Actually lots of ew.
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11mo
The Wanda fans might have a stroke at this, lol.


The complaints about Doreen seems to be mainly
a) People doesn't want a furry
b) Doreen was added as an extra and not someone they preferred.

But, as you can see (and I've skipped some positive Doreen comments), they're overwhelmingly positive prior to and at the release of Doreen. Which means, not cope.
 
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I'm very annoyed at how this is one of the extremely few porn games that isn't just a VN with a treadmill attached to it, like 99% of all porn games, but it's being developed by an extremely incompetent developer so it's never actually going to fucking get anywhere in it's development.

I really wish he'd just stop adding new girls and focus on adding more depth to the game, but I know that it's not going to happen because that would mean more complex code and he's not capable of that.
 

aesir150

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You guys say that, but the patreon is pretty active and it's filled with overwhelming positive reception for these changes. As far as I can tell, the number of paid subscribers hasn't really budged since I've joined it. Like, if I were a neutral third party, new to both the game and this thread and I read the comments on his patreon and then the things people say here, the conclusion I would have is that the people here are complaining because the game is not *exactly*, down to the pixel, what they're hoping to get.
There are always people who are willing to accept slop, then there are always those who are delusional and think things can get better.

You sound like the former.

You can't dispute the fact Oni's work has been dropping in quality. Look at his old normal stand alone art and then look at what he has churned out in this game.

You can't deny that Emma's face is literally just Kitty's face that was copy and pasted with a few things recolored with the paint bucket tool.

Look at Gwen's art. You can tell there is 0 consistency her various different poses, her body portions are completely out of wack between every pose. If Oni actually cared they wouldn't look that way. You can compare that to Rogue (in version 1.54c and prior), Laura, and Jean's art who for the most part have consistent body proportions in every pose.

Emma, Gwen, Storm, Betsy are really poorly drawn and inconsistent. I won't comment on Doreen cause I haven't and won't touch her with a 100 foot pole, so I have no idea what her sex poses look like.

Also people keep buying shovelware COD games, people keep buying Total War games that are buggy and keep regressing in features and quality, people keep buying EA live service games, they keep buying Adobe subscriptions despite them barely ever adding anything and keep jacking up the prices, people keep buying Microsoft Office and Windows licences despite the fact that they keep adding more bloatware and spyware, etc...

There are a ton of mindless consumers who accept whatever slop is handed them.

Rogue Like started off as a unique game and still is unique in the sense that its one of the only hentai games that lets you get into the action right away without a bunch of pointless grinding or stupid mini games, and lets you control the sex scenes in real time instead of just a still image. Those of us who have stuck around for a decade now simply wanted more girls at the same quality as Rogue.

You can look at Null Hypothesis, you see their art team actually cares about making sure their art is consistent. And I personally don't even like Null Hypothesis since their art looks like AI art to me, and all the girls have the same exact face, and I think the game falls into the category of too much pointless grind that the average visual novel / dating sim has. But that is the level or art consistency I expect Oni to churn out, considering he has always been an artist first and a programmer second. But instead we are getting the worst of both worlds from Oni at the moment, low quality art and incompetent spaghetti code.

The point here is we know Oni can draw better art than what he is putting in this game. I have seen Oni's stand alone art with variation of some of the characters that are in this game which look way better, I know he can draw proper sex poses, I know he can do proper shading.

Maybe Oni just isn't competent enough to handle the consistency and complexity needed for animations that require multiple poses of a character instead a one off picture. Similar to how a restaurant might be able to make single portions of something on their menu perfect each time, but when you order a party tray size they deliver something that is completely inedible cause they have no clue on how to scale up the recipe properly. Though I doubt it since he has drawn thousands of hentai pictures pretty consistently, so I am sure he can do better if he wanted to.
 
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aesir150

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I'm scrolling through the comments looking for any complains and, honestly, having a hard time finding any. No high praise either but no complaints. I think most people there just know that there might be girls that's not to their taste and that's okay. Not everything has to be for them.
There were a ton of complaints about Doreen, and all the other girls.

You have been on F95 for a long time. You should realize that F95 mods come into threads and nuke whole pages of comments sometimes when things get heated or off topic. Not to mention this thread is 1877 pages long with lots of random conversation. Highly doubt you manage to read all the complaints other than a few surface level ones.

Also 70% of the conversation is always about which girl is next, which easily buries the conversations about the actual art quality, especially since Oni never rolls out all the poses in 1 update but breaks them up into 2-3 updates that are 6 months apart. Not to mention there isn't much discussion about the art quality after initial complaints because most of us realize there is nothing we can do about it. Oni is his own boss and isn't held accountable to anyone, so if he decides to turn out low quality stuff, there is no one there to tell him no. There are tons of games that are either abandoned, or just straight up milking it that have consistently high patreons like Pandorium.

Also the standing art is always generally always good (or at least fine) in my opinion even if I don't like the character design, and that is generally all people see and vote on. It is the sex poses that are the abominations cause of how low quality they are or how completely inconsistent the proportions are. For instance Jubilee had a ton of complaints about her feet literally covering up her pussy and ass during the sex poses. I remember Jubilee also had to have her pussy completely changed because of how it was drawn when first released. Can't remember who but one of the girls had a detached floating pussy when they were first released, I think it was Jean, which Oni had to completely redo like 3 updates later after the fact.

Oni also has the habit of randomly changing stuff without mentioning it in the change logs where he often retroactively changes the shading on certain body parts and makes it slowly worse and worse (Rogue, Kitty, Jubilee are all notable victims of this). Similar to how George Lucas kept randomly retroactively adding more CGI abominations to each release of Star Wars.
 
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