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Ren'Py Rogue-like: Evolution [v1.6d] [Oni]

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fake.name.again

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sleepingkirby said:
I thought of that too, but if the events have consequences, tie the progress to the event, not the leveling system. There's also nothing to say a character's development has to be tied to the storyline (In case you're not aware, they have quests for characters but also a main storyline. Quests are things like, "get Rogue's love and trust up to 725" or something like that. Main storylines are actual plot. Like hate crime happens or Juggernaut attacks). The game as it is now, you can't even take off take off their bra until like chapter 2, after a sentinel attack. Like, what about your friends getting killed by sentinels have anything to do with how a girl feels about you? On the other hand (in the game, after plot, you usually get some new powers because of plot), if things only change between you and a girl because you've gotten new powers(forced upon you, might I add. Like these powers happen whether or not you level at all) or you get hurt, that kinda says the girls only love you because of power or sympathy. Which...yeah, kinda says you shouldn't with these girls. Like no amount of reassuring from Rogue will convince you otherwise (this is an actual plot point in the game. Rogue says she doesn't fall for you because of your powers repeatedly.)
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TBH I'm not sure if I fully understand how it works and why you find it so jarring. But I think I will try to prioritize NH after I finish game I'm currently playing, so I just might come back to you in a few weeks. It is intriguing.
From your description, it seems like they have a story they want to tell much more in mind than Oni. And one of the fundamental aspects in good storytelling is pacing. In RLE stats are everything: to be or not to be. Stats afford you actions, and you get some baseline reactions (what girls say, descriptions of actions) but narration of the game and directions is mostly in your head. NH seems to want to interweave stats progression with relationship progression with overarching story progression. They are probably inspired by classic CRPGs (you know, classic Bioware etc) and romance in these games is always gated by story events. But you are right, it is more world-state than progression-system driven, but from your description to a degree so is NH, when you describe, that you can't progress with Rogue until chapter 2.
sleepingkirby said:
I can see that. Though, for me, their powers should add spice to the whole sex thing. I like that Kitty in RLE can steal people's clothing. I would like it if there were more things like that. Well, beyond blackmailing/handling Prof. X.
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Well, absolutely. Kitty powers at last have some use, but how many uses of her powers, a real perv with imagination, can imagine? And some telepathic touching... But telepathy and telekinesis can again be abused in so many ways... I actually find the premise of how Rogue and her powers factors in starting the whole cycle quite fun and compelling, but I think more might be done with it. My own idea for the game is variation of the theme.
 
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sleepingkirby said:
I thought of that too, but if the events have consequences, tie the progress to the event, not the leveling system. There's also nothing to say a character's development has to be tied to the storyline (In case you're not aware, they have quests for characters but also a main storyline. Quests are things like, "get Rogue's love and trust up to 725" or something like that. Main storylines are actual plot. Like hate crime happens or Juggernaut attacks). The game as it is now, you can't even take off take off their bra until like chapter 2, after a sentinel attack. Like, what about your friends getting killed by sentinels have anything to do with how a girl feels about you? On the other hand (in the game, after plot, you usually get some new powers because of plot), if things only change between you and a girl because you've gotten new powers(forced upon you, might I add. Like these powers happen whether or not you level at all) or you get hurt, that kinda says the girls only love you because of power or sympathy. Which...yeah, kinda says you shouldn't with these girls. Like no amount of reassuring from Rogue will convince you otherwise (this is an actual plot point in the game. Rogue says she doesn't fall for you because of your powers repeatedly.)


I can see that. Though, for me, their powers should add spice to the whole sex thing. I like that Kitty in RLE can steal people's clothing. I would like it if there were more things like that. Well, beyond blackmailing/handling Prof. X.
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It's a glorified slide show when "story happens" and the get love to 720 or whatever just gate off content, so if you want sex get that love high, you can, as far as I've seen never order them to suck your cock like you can in RLE. The depth in null is an illusion.
 
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fake.name.again said:
TBH I'm not sure if I fully understand how it works and why you find it so jarring.
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Not jarring. Just irritating. I feel like games needs to have a direct cause and effect. Like how many times you stubbing your toe shouldn't end up being the number of cities in a game (unless there's an established mechanic involved). I feel like such things take away player agency and, unless there's a real reason for it (horror games, plot twists, etc.) taking away player agency makes for a worst game.

fake.name.again said:
But I think I will try to prioritize NH after I finish game I'm currently playing, so I just might come back to you in a few weeks. It is intriguing.
From your description...
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Please tell me when you do. I wouldn't mind hearing another take on it.

fake.name.again said:
Well, absolutely. Kitty powers at last have some use, but how many uses of her powers, a real perv with imagination, can imagine?
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I guess challenge accepted?(I know it's not a challenge but it's a fun thought) Voyeurism. Leaving "tempting" items. Blackmail (if you're into that type of thing that's common in netori). Flashing/streaking (can't catch what you can't touch). Teasing/edging. Denial play (can look, but can't touch). Prostate play? Bondage. (rather than taking clothes, slipping on restraints) Hmm... I think that's my limit for now.

fake.name.again said:
And some telepathic touching... But telepathy and telekinesis can again be abused in so many ways... I actually find the premise of how Rogue and her powers factors in starting the whole cycle quite fun and compelling, but I think more might be done with it. My own idea for the game is variation of the theme.
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In all sincerity, good luck. It sounds like a fun premise and idea and I would love to see it if you make it.
 
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fake.name.again said:
Well, absolutely. Kitty powers at last have some use, but how many uses of her powers, a real perv with imagination, can imagine? And some telepathic touching... But telepathy and telekinesis can again be abused in so many ways... I actually find the premise of how Rogue and her powers factors in starting the whole cycle quite fun and compelling, but I think more might be done with it. My own idea for the game is variation of the theme.
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If we are talking about how the powers should affect lewdings, shouldnt Laura be constantly regenerating her hymen?
 
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primavera9925 said:
I dunno, tried it the other day and it felt like it was just trying to shove RLE in an average RenPy WEG shaped hole. Extremely linear and stiff chapter based progression requiring to progress all girls simultaneously, verbose sentences, seemingly no depth to mechanics or the sex minigame, grind heavy with no room for metagaming and a menu hell that feels made up of 4 different games. Very puzzling design philosophy, like they liked the X-Women harem idea more than the game itself.
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Yeah that was my impression too, plus Ororo is rough looking in this game.
 
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salscou said:
If we are talking about how the powers should affect lewdings, shouldnt Laura be constantly regenerating her hymen?
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And probably could smell your smell on other girls (if you wanted to write her as jealous or maybe as a signal to her animal instinct, that you are the dominant male in the pack)... and her regeneration should affect her stamina. Honestly don't have too many ideas for Storm powers (ones that come to mind are in femdom directions, which is not my preference), and I'm not that familiar with Gwens, but yeah, you can work with many of them.
 
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fake.name.again said:
And probably could smell your smell on other girls
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She actually does that ingame, she knows if you cheat on her automatically because of the smell.
She also recognizes you by your scent if you use the rule 63 machine.
Storm could use her powers to automatically make everyone in the room wet (not sexually, i mean literally wet to be like the showers.
 
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Hello,
is there some kind of Rulebook or something for this game? Some things I do not really get. The Addiction system for example.
Thanks for your helpful advices. :)
 
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aesir150 said:
God I hope the people expecting comic book version of squirrel girl weren't talking about this comic book version of her.
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Cause if they do then they need a serious dosage Jesus in their life.
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The artstyle got better after issue 31 thanks to the previous artist leaving. Thats how I could even read the comic in the beginning and enjoyed it enough to read the entire rest of it in spite of how it looks. Only 1 other comic managed to make me read it despite disliking its visuals in the beginning.
 
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