- May 24, 2017
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Thank god another scam project start kit is getting abandoned.
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We all can see this project has failed because the owner of it decided to reuse and "remake" almost all of the assets!
No one wants to see something that you may already seen/played. The reason porn games exists is for the hard earning porn gameplay but this is just straight up asset stealing. Whats the point of playing the game if you can look up the original art from the artist. I have never played the game but by the comments on this thread it is just asset stealing.
Im gonna sound retarded because I do not reread what I wrote and as the time I am writing this its 3 AM
No one wants to see something that you may already seen/played. The reason porn games exists is for the hard earning porn gameplay but this is just straight up asset stealing. Whats the point of playing the game if you can look up the original art from the artist. I have never played the game but by the comments on this thread it is just asset stealing.
Im gonna sound retarded because I do not reread what I wrote and as the time I am writing this its 3 AM
HOLY SHIT THIS IS THE SUMMER MEMORIES GAME BUT REDESIGNEDSure, you didn't take Simon's animations and didn't monetize any of it (without his consent)
But whose art you took here?at least tell us the artist smh my head
- Aug 25, 2016
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There is really no reason for this thread to still exist. No explicit content in game anymore (quest clerk barely counts), most of the comments are toxic either towards what must be the old boss fight or not understanding all the phases of the revised boss fight, or the whole switch from game to "concept test". The creator said he tried to get it removed a few pages back but it couldn't be. Is there really no way to remove the thread?
- Dec 19, 2018
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I want to add something about thread removal.
I have lost some context and messages, haven't tried this software yet but I think it is just...time to move on and bury the axe.
Something went wrong, there was misunderstanding of the initial idea, some feedback, etc.
Yeah the problem around the source of some assets was correctly put...seems like he needed some "filler" scene. Obviously there is a difference between recycling/rapid production (dlsite MTL with AI-made drawings or "npc game number 45 with reused assets") and other uses, I wouldn't be too picky and the line is blurry, there are also games reusing normal porn and I do not think Johnny Sins gets money from those. BUT it was a correct point to raise asking about the assets.
Dev is able to make interesting stuff, if this is a plugin or foundation for new RPGM interactions and options it's a good thing. His pixel arts are cute.
I don't think it is "inherently bad" to keep this project or thread around. I would edit the intro to explain what happened and what is now the scope/objective. This seems to have already happened. The reviews are really low but also true and they mostly paint the complete picture. A new thread would be a clean slate but it would also be lost feedback and history. Maybe close this one and make a new one, so the history can be read but new discussion would go on the current demo/project?
Idk, I got a lot of thoughts around. I think the discussion was pretty moderate and it's good like that. Everyone should walk out a bit better and with more ideas. everyone seemed to have good reasons and/or it was understandable their point of view. It's funny how porn threads are the best chill-debate-work areas.
Dev, don't get discouraged, thanks for your input and work. Yeah we are on the free part of the internet so I get that "reusing assets" or taking inspiration is a blurry line, but be a bit more careful from now on.
There is a section on this site about other content creators and assets, maybe look there if you want to search art you can't make yourself yet or you want to collaborate with other authors. IDK, you are probably here from way before me. Anyway no one likes to divide their profits with someone else, especially at the start of a career but that's how most of the work happens. Again, the minimum is crediting people for their work, if someone will use your assets/foundation/etc. you would probably be way happier with any of these elements (a) money (b) people know your product is good (c) there is something out there made by you making the world a bit better.
Fire emblem animated porn is probably a big idea, it seems an underrated mineshaft, good luck; I too would like something different from default RPGM fight interface.
Most games put their full team in end credits, buuut maybe do it also in the intro (reading two times who made stuff is not really a problem in my opinion, especially small teams) or put a page in main menu; and mention them on the various social pages.
Users should have "lowered" a bit their expectations. I get that the refresh bug is annoying/broken and he was not fast in fixing the game with that single line of code; but in some days users provided the code fix, feedback was given and later the game got the two difficulty settings. On the other matters, you were good detectives and it was correct to raise those points. The final say would probably be original animator clearing the mist, again I don't understand clearly what happened because there is something missing. Seems that at the start the description was different and not clearly explained as a demo.
Maybe I am biased because I have hope in whoever is trying to create something, at his pace and ability. But being here (and many other places) also means knowing there will be critics and it's the point, it may hurt a bit; and getting a feedback here or on itch is better than risking some Patreon/copyright hammer or social media fights.
Lately some indie devs and authors I follow did some miracles in SFW and NSFW games/comics so I am a bit positive, that's it.
TLDR: mucho texto, I mixed some points already raised by others. A fap would have been a better use of my time, probably my ego believes in being a master opinionist because I just got adegree useless piece of paper.
Godspeed to everyone, have fun and good night
I have lost some context and messages, haven't tried this software yet but I think it is just...time to move on and bury the axe.
Something went wrong, there was misunderstanding of the initial idea, some feedback, etc.
Yeah the problem around the source of some assets was correctly put...seems like he needed some "filler" scene. Obviously there is a difference between recycling/rapid production (dlsite MTL with AI-made drawings or "npc game number 45 with reused assets") and other uses, I wouldn't be too picky and the line is blurry, there are also games reusing normal porn and I do not think Johnny Sins gets money from those. BUT it was a correct point to raise asking about the assets.
Dev is able to make interesting stuff, if this is a plugin or foundation for new RPGM interactions and options it's a good thing. His pixel arts are cute.
I don't think it is "inherently bad" to keep this project or thread around. I would edit the intro to explain what happened and what is now the scope/objective. This seems to have already happened. The reviews are really low but also true and they mostly paint the complete picture. A new thread would be a clean slate but it would also be lost feedback and history. Maybe close this one and make a new one, so the history can be read but new discussion would go on the current demo/project?
Idk, I got a lot of thoughts around. I think the discussion was pretty moderate and it's good like that. Everyone should walk out a bit better and with more ideas. everyone seemed to have good reasons and/or it was understandable their point of view. It's funny how porn threads are the best chill-debate-work areas.
Dev, don't get discouraged, thanks for your input and work. Yeah we are on the free part of the internet so I get that "reusing assets" or taking inspiration is a blurry line, but be a bit more careful from now on.
There is a section on this site about other content creators and assets, maybe look there if you want to search art you can't make yourself yet or you want to collaborate with other authors. IDK, you are probably here from way before me. Anyway no one likes to divide their profits with someone else, especially at the start of a career but that's how most of the work happens. Again, the minimum is crediting people for their work, if someone will use your assets/foundation/etc. you would probably be way happier with any of these elements (a) money (b) people know your product is good (c) there is something out there made by you making the world a bit better.
Fire emblem animated porn is probably a big idea, it seems an underrated mineshaft, good luck; I too would like something different from default RPGM fight interface.
Most games put their full team in end credits, buuut maybe do it also in the intro (reading two times who made stuff is not really a problem in my opinion, especially small teams) or put a page in main menu; and mention them on the various social pages.
Users should have "lowered" a bit their expectations. I get that the refresh bug is annoying/broken and he was not fast in fixing the game with that single line of code; but in some days users provided the code fix, feedback was given and later the game got the two difficulty settings. On the other matters, you were good detectives and it was correct to raise those points. The final say would probably be original animator clearing the mist, again I don't understand clearly what happened because there is something missing. Seems that at the start the description was different and not clearly explained as a demo.
Maybe I am biased because I have hope in whoever is trying to create something, at his pace and ability. But being here (and many other places) also means knowing there will be critics and it's the point, it may hurt a bit; and getting a feedback here or on itch is better than risking some Patreon/copyright hammer or social media fights.
Lately some indie devs and authors I follow did some miracles in SFW and NSFW games/comics so I am a bit positive, that's it.
TLDR: mucho texto, I mixed some points already raised by others. A fap would have been a better use of my time, probably my ego believes in being a master opinionist because I just got a
Godspeed to everyone, have fun and good night
Well it started off that he was using pornographic art drawn by someone else, and lied that he had permission to do so... You missed that part.
- May 24, 2017
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The stolen assets were only part of the reason. He also had a broken boss and was a total ass to everyone about it. If you look back to the earlier pages, he pretty much told everyone to "git gud" and blamed the "technical issue" on everyone else pc and monitors. He only tried to "fix" it after massive backlash and all nsfw content had been removed from the game.
with abandon tag, good to say forum killed him. bring porn to porn site kids, remember that.
I checked the dev and he's actually nuked his entire media presence. His twitter is gone and from the looks of his itchio and patreon, he's continuing his first game called "My Dress Up Loser". Under a new dev name of course.
- Mar 1, 2018
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i would have loved if he just made it a konosuba rpg that only relights on strategy because rpg maker quick time events suck
- Jul 28, 2022
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It's not that he stole art to make his game that makes people mad, but rather he had to LIE instead of owning up to this. Doesn't help that his behavior at his handling of the boss doesn't help either.