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Hey, everyone! Creator of the game here. Thanks for making this thread, partanen. I'll give the usual creator note: I'm not going to bother complaining about patron releases being leaked, but if folks like the game, please support it!
The free version will always be kept up-to-date at
I'm aware that my art skills are still developing. -_-; I intend to revise the art as time allows when I feel I can do a better job. I'm a much better writer than I am an artist, so the game focuses on text with art only serving to set the scene.And besides, I prefer even amateurish 2D art to any but the best 3dcg.
Lastly: I'm gonna try to keep an eye on this thread, but I'll be focusing more on places like the game's itch.io forum, my Patreon, and my website, so if you want to make sure I see something, reach out there.
The free version will always be kept up-to-date at
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, where you can also get changelogs for each version and leave public comments. Generally, it's one version behind the patron-locked release.I'm aware that my art skills are still developing. -_-; I intend to revise the art as time allows when I feel I can do a better job. I'm a much better writer than I am an artist, so the game focuses on text with art only serving to set the scene.
Oh, shit, thanks. It'll be fixed in the next version (free and patron; I do my best not to lock bugfixes behind the paywall, even for a limited time).
I'm still figuring out what I can realistically offer and that folks would be interested in. If anyone has a non-trolly suggestion for something I should include, let me know and I'll think about whether it's feasible.
Lastly: I'm gonna try to keep an eye on this thread, but I'll be focusing more on places like the game's itch.io forum, my Patreon, and my website, so if you want to make sure I see something, reach out there.
I'm actually genuinely confused about what you're going for, here. What does "good marketing" look like, in this industry? What should he be doing at this point in his career? If it was your game, and you were this far along when the budget ran out and you needed to start accepting payment, what would your plan be?
Build as much notoriety as possible by using any possible avenue, including patreon.
The goal is to increase the pool of people who know about your game as much as possible early on so that once you do put up a paywall you might not have a larger amount of people who are wiling to pay to get behind it (that'll stay about the same), but you'll have a much larger pool of people who know about your game in the first place and thus more patrons in the end.
The main problem he has isn't the quality of his game or the willingness of people to pay for it, but the fact that nobody knows about it and those who find his patreon are much less likely to be interested when they see all the closed posts and thus less likely to spread the word.
It's a porngame that doesn't serve a niche fetish audience, doesn't have impressive art or gameplay and doesn't have incentives for people to pay him large amounts of money, so he can't expect a high return from few people.
Simply put, he's using a sniper rifle while he should be using a shotgun.
What good marketing looks like depends on your product and your audience, it's important to ensure your marketing is tailored to both.
t. Guy Who Doesn't Have to Work a Real Job for a Living Due to Patreon
Hmmm. Okay. This is good advice and it's my first time hearing it.
So what does the shotgun approach actually look like? He's already doing the thing of putting out old versions of the game for free on itch.io, and he even replied to this thread in a way that seems reasonably chill. So what else should he be doing, on top of that, to try and cast a wider net?
Advertise wherever he can, cooperate with as many other creators as he can (ask for shout-outs, offer help or small projects together (works a lot better as an artist since you can then just make a promo-pic with relevant characters from both projects), get on relevant platforms (f95zone, reddit, 4/8chan) etc.
Advertising 101, basically. Except that there's no reason to bother with buying ads, nobody with half a brain clicks on porngame ads on the internet. Word of mouth helps a lot, so you have to be careful not to be a dick to people or they'll talk shit about you or your project out of spite and so on.
Also, get a second account as your developer persona for platforms so you can use your normal account to talk shit. Everybody who's honest on the internet will meet some petty retards who want to fuck with you, so it's best to keep business and and the rest of your online activities separate.
- Apr 10, 2018
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not until people stop supporting half assed projects. there's no passion anymore, it's just "how little can i do to get people to pay me for doing the bare minimum each month?"
most adult game devs don't dev games. they dev a patreon page and sort of monitor a discord. they'll drop an occasional render and act like being able to vote on a poll is a privilege. almost no one creates because they have a drive for it. and the thing with adult games is that it's a lot easier for them to get away with it, too. who's going to file a lawsuit against a shady adult game dev? for most of us, this is a dark and dirty little hobby away from our real lives. so these crooked devs get their money and run, re-name their 'studio', rinse and repeat. there's no holding any of these people accountable. you shouldn't even be able to monetize a game on patreon without a certain number of followers or supporters. this pre-alpha-barely-a-demo bullshit needs to stop.
- Feb 25, 2018
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It Is Really weird. But I am REALLY Enjoying This Game/Story.
The storyline/premise Is Nice, New & different.
My Only problem with it is the graphics/Artwork/renderings.
No "Interaction"; I wanna see 3rd person, or POV during 'Training Exercises"
(ie: massages, kissing, spanking, sex with the harbormaster,...)
looking forward to this being one of My 'favorite' games.
- Sep 6, 2019
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Yes. I am hoping to SEE MC interacting with Theresa eventually.
But I am playing game 2nd time around.. as straight female.
(1st time I played as female with a phallus (cock), for fun.)
- Sep 6, 2019
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I am curious about this,..
(from Changelog)
**A fix for a bug where you could revisit Castille before you'd actually met her. **
would this happen BEFORE I complete the 'Adulterine Soap' task??
(from Changelog)
**A fix for a bug where you could revisit Castille before you'd actually met her. **
would this happen BEFORE I complete the 'Adulterine Soap' task??
- Jan 22, 2020
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This was alright.
Obviously the art is pretty lacking ... I don't know how hard it is to do that porn tracing style that leads to the sort of art you see in games like Good Girl Gone Bad, but I've read comments on the forum that said that's the easiest way to get a high quality result (the 3D stuff being expensive, and just drawing freely requiring significant artistic talent to be erotic)...
I enjoyed the world and all the eldritch stuff, that was cool... I'm not a fan of trainer style games but this escapes the pitfalls of them by the fact that each session is unique, so there's no repetition, and the fact that there's a bunch of other stuff going on... (I did maybe encounter one slight bug where I had the opportunity to choose doing the 1->2 tasks for one of her stats prior to even having done the 0->1 for the corresponding thing).
Hopefully when the system is more fleshed out then rather than raising every stat with her, it'll be the case that you'll want to focus on what you want her to become ... like I have 0 interest in her initiating sexual stuff, but I want her to become something so broken that she won't refuse anything from anyone.
I'm not keen on the thing saying that the protagonist won't ever get to perform non-consensual stuff (especially as we're clearly fine with that occurring as it can happen to him)... perhaps later on if driven mad by otherworldly forces that might become appropriate? ... or even in gray areas, like I stood up to the deer god guy purely because I was hoping to take a turn on the passed out woman on the floor after everyone else had run away - but that wasn't an option... but that's mainly just because while I heavily favour nc and sexual violence that's only when my character is the one inflicting them.
The writing was okay, a little verbose but I presume that was largely on purpose, though I think it should maybe be reined in a little... I seem to remember the harbormaster lady was very hammy, but didn't have a ton of interaction with her.
Obviously the art is pretty lacking ... I don't know how hard it is to do that porn tracing style that leads to the sort of art you see in games like Good Girl Gone Bad, but I've read comments on the forum that said that's the easiest way to get a high quality result (the 3D stuff being expensive, and just drawing freely requiring significant artistic talent to be erotic)...
I enjoyed the world and all the eldritch stuff, that was cool... I'm not a fan of trainer style games but this escapes the pitfalls of them by the fact that each session is unique, so there's no repetition, and the fact that there's a bunch of other stuff going on... (I did maybe encounter one slight bug where I had the opportunity to choose doing the 1->2 tasks for one of her stats prior to even having done the 0->1 for the corresponding thing).
Hopefully when the system is more fleshed out then rather than raising every stat with her, it'll be the case that you'll want to focus on what you want her to become ... like I have 0 interest in her initiating sexual stuff, but I want her to become something so broken that she won't refuse anything from anyone.
I'm not keen on the thing saying that the protagonist won't ever get to perform non-consensual stuff (especially as we're clearly fine with that occurring as it can happen to him)... perhaps later on if driven mad by otherworldly forces that might become appropriate? ... or even in gray areas, like I stood up to the deer god guy purely because I was hoping to take a turn on the passed out woman on the floor after everyone else had run away - but that wasn't an option... but that's mainly just because while I heavily favour nc and sexual violence that's only when my character is the one inflicting them.
The writing was okay, a little verbose but I presume that was largely on purpose, though I think it should maybe be reined in a little... I seem to remember the harbormaster lady was very hammy, but didn't have a ton of interaction with her.
So far I've tried to err on the side of having less complex art and avoiding drawing anything that would look super janky, but I hope to include some more specific sex scene art as my skill improves. There's some limited third-person art for the manual sex training, and I plan to add more stuff like that in the future.
Yeah, basically I wasn't properly checking that you'd done "Adulterine Soap", so you could visit Castille as soon as you found out where Mrs. Graber's house was. I've fixed that.
I'm not sure how much high-level branching I'll do; I at least plan to have multiple "graduation" events that you can choose from near the end of the game, but I might include some more complexity if it feels right. I'll be paying attention to patron feedback on that stuff, since more branching makes everything more complicated to write and fit into the game.
And I definitely want her to get super depraved. Don't expect her to end up a mindless brainwashed doll, but do expect her to make the conscious choice to let people do some pretty gross things to her (and enjoy them).
Part of this is me trying to minimize the risk of Patreon/other services deciding to shut me down, and part of it is the specific themes I'm aiming for with the game as a whole. I agree that non-con stuff is really hot, though, and there'll be some stuff that plays around with it. You can expect some situations where consent is weird in a horror way, and I'm sure I want to include some roleplay, so you'll be able to have Theresa beg you to stop and fight back as you fuck her (or something similar).
Oh, shit, thanks. That'll be fixed in the next release. Clearly I need to test requirements better across the board.
- Nov 5, 2018
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I don't know, I find Theresa incredible cute! I wouldn't want that to change at all, just different versions of her expressions and dress or undress!
- Sep 6, 2019
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What do you mean that you fixed that?? In what way??
Do I need to go back and replay, so I CAN visit Castille when I find Mrs. Graber's house??
Or Is It No longer an option??
- Sep 6, 2019
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I LIKE Theresa. I would like to see her depraved and uninhabited. I Do Not Want to see ANYONE as a "Mindless Brainwashed Doll"; "...do expect Theresa to make the conscious choice to let people do some pretty 'NAUGHTY' things to her (and enjoy them)." (I Don't know about 'Gross'; Not Really into that scene.)
Are You planning to add 'self masturbation', bondage & spanking (S&M) to the
"Let's engage in a bit of play" Choice??
Is 'Oral Pleasure' to be added to Theresa's "Education"??
You can fuck side characters and monsters; the only fucking with Theresa so far is manual sex (handjobs or fingering/rubbing). Coitus and oral sex with Theresa is planned for Depravity 3 and Experience 3, respectively.
Whether you're on a new or old save, you should be able to go to Mrs. Graber's house at dusk and visit Castille as long as you finished The Adulterine Soap at some point. You shouldn't need to replay anything. Note that, at the moment, this is basically just letting you try out other branches of the expedition's sex scene without messing with rollback or saves.
All of those are either planned for some point in the future or already in development for the next update.
