Champinon

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wow this is so much nonsense
at least the art is great

edit: this is a total shitshow
how the fuk a game in development has 2yo errors this big
Because the developers are more preocuped of making new anti-piracy systems and sending threats to the modders than making the game, every update takes months and come with unfinished SECONDARY quests and riddled with bugs because RPG Maker instead of a decent engine for a game this complex. Add to that the fact that they're making another game, a 3D one, based on the little sister.
 

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Damn, I love this game. I just really wish there was more NTR Gip content, it's just too good of a setup not to have. I've played impregnating Nicole today and I deeply regret there wasn't an option to ask uncle to do it instead. His introduction home is really promising as well, him getting Flora is pretty much granted but I'd love to see him get Nicole and Natalie as well and become the man of the house. Him also stealing the schoolgirls would've been probably too much (even tho I'd personally enjoy the hell out of it. Maybe if he became a teacher?) but I crave more Gip content at home. Him sleeping in Flora's bedroom, peephole showing him training Natalie and Nicole happy from having him as her master and father of his children. Of course all of it avoidable easily but in general his character is just too good to pass
NO NO NO. You're supposed to be a genius with a hidden dominant side. You're supposed to embrace that dominant size, grow a huge cock and fuck all the females. The MC will not be giving away his harem. Never in the main story.

edit: removing the "Not even optional. Never." segment because someone wants to feel included at all costs.
Also removing like 6 lines of NO's because I was simply blinded by absolute rage.
The game didn't even hint at NTR content in it's inseption, so when I saw the tag for the first time, I fell into a coma.
Then this user details his desires and I just went ape shit. This game does not deserve to be here, nor does its finished version deserve such treatment.
It is a innovative, beautiful product and should contain only the very best of tags. NTR is not one of them. As a grindy game, it should not have this kind of content, neither as some kind of deranged reward, nor as a looming threat. My case is closed.
 
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NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. You're supposed to be a genius with a hidden dominant side. You're supposed to embrace that dominant size, grow a huge cock and fuck all the females. The MC will not be giving away his harem. Never. Not Even optional. Never.
You lost me in "Not even optional".
 
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SoberSphagghett

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You lost me in "Not even optional".
I never wanted to win anyone over. Think about it. The whole story contradicts this kind of "content".
You play as a young aspiring intelligent guy, who has the secret ability to basically dominate people and grow a huge cock.
You're also kind enough to help anyone and everyone whichever way you can.
You work your ass off to gather a harem of beautiful girls.
Your father and uncle are dead beats.
Your aunt/caretaker doesn't want to have anything to do with either of them.
Where does the ludicrous idea of giving up all of this to some random retard/s fit in?
In what crazy world do you go risking your life, your sanity, your good name, just to let it be taken away from you.

I agree this is kink shaming, but this "kink" has basically been plaguing good games for years now.

Even though I got my hands on this gem through a pirating site, I'm too invested in its proper development to allow this kind of "trendy NTR content" to be added here. There are enough beautifully made games ruined by this NTR BS out there. Spare this one, unless the dev goes absolutely buck wild and allows it with a public claim on whatever fund raising site they've established for themselves.

Or make it really, really difficult to access. Like lategame, "new game +", level of difficulty, or with a cheatcode. Just make sure it's not part of the main plot. I don't want to have to learn modding to make my own branching path of the game filled with god knows what kind of rage-fuelled content about Doom-slaughtering my competition.
 

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Because the developers are more preocuped of making new anti-piracy systems and sending threats to the modders than making the game, every update takes months and come with unfinished SECONDARY quests and riddled with bugs because RPG Maker instead of a decent engine for a game this complex. Add to that the fact that they're making another game, a 3D one, based on the little sister.
Oh, it's RPG maker? Ok, I'm using Cheat Engine to track down values, but it's not working.
Is there any kind of general code editing software I can use to change values?
 

Champinon

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Oh, it's RPG maker? Ok, I'm using Cheat Engine to track down values, but it's not working.
Is there any kind of general code editing software I can use to change values?
You can use RPGMakerSaveEdit (in this forum), save-editor.com or saveeditonline, but be careful because none of those options work 100%. This shit is confusing even with that kind of meaningless stuff.
 

Blua ido

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I never wanted to win anyone over. Think about it. The whole story contradicts this kind of "content".
You play as a young aspiring intelligent guy, who has the secret ability to basically dominate people and grow a huge cock.
You're also kind enough to help anyone and everyone whichever way you can.
You work your ass off to gather a harem of beautiful girls.
Your father and uncle are dead beats.
Your aunt/caretaker doesn't want to have anything to do with either of them.
Where does the ludicrous idea of giving up all of this to some random retard/s fit in?
In what crazy world do you go risking your life, your sanity, your good name, just to let it be taken away from you.

I agree this is kink shaming, but this "kink" has basically been plaguing good games for years now.

Even though I got my hands on this gem through a pirating site, I'm too invested in its proper development to allow this kind of "trendy NTR content" to be added here. There are enough beautifully made games ruined by this NTR BS out there. Spare this one, unless the dev goes absolutely buck wild and allows it with a public claim on whatever fund raising site they've established for themselves.

Or make it really, really difficult to access. Like lategame, "new game +", level of difficulty, or with a cheatcode. Just make sure it's not part of the main plot. I don't want to have to learn modding to make my own branching path of the game filled with god knows what kind of rage-fuelled content about Doom-slaughtering my competition.
In any case most of the NTR content is avoidable, Gip it's basically the antagonist and there's not much unavoidable hard content, just some things here and there to make the player want to get rid of Gip xd

Now, the major problem in the game to me it's the double personality of the MC, it's very strange to see how the protagonist technically cucks himself sometimes XDDD I get the idea of the character, but at least to me it feels a bit pointless.
Maybe i would like the idea if you could change with your alter ego and have very few interactions with the other personality. To prevent the character from feeling weird because is constantly fighting with himself lmao
 

Eldi09

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NO NO NO. You're supposed to be a genius with a hidden dominant side. You're supposed to embrace that dominant size, grow a huge cock and fuck all the females. The MC will not be giving away his harem. Never in the main story.

edit: removing the "Not even optional. Never." segment because someone wants to feel included at all costs.
Also removing like 6 lines of NO's because I was simply blinded by absolute rage.
The game didn't even hint at NTR content in it's inseption, so when I saw the tag for the first time, I fell into a coma.
Then this user details his desires and I just went ape shit. This game does not deserve to be here, nor does its finished version deserve such treatment.
It is a innovative, beautiful product and should contain only the very best of tags. NTR is not one of them. As a grindy game, it should not have this kind of content, neither as some kind of deranged reward, nor as a looming threat. My case is closed.
Keep in mind that when I write this comment I haven't played the game, I'm a newcomer to this thread and I jump to this argument giving my thoughts with as little information as possible. And I'm currently downloading this game to get a taste of what this game has to offer and to get the same footing the people in this thread have. So if there is something wrong then please correct me and if you want to start a discussion, please do so with a cool head

"The game didn't even hint at NTR content in it's inseption, so when I saw the tag for the first time, I fell into a coma."

Fair enough, it kinda sets the expectations for consumers at first. But after considering what type of game is this, it can't be helped that it will branch into something like ntr and other more extreme/niche/degenerate stuff in the future.

"NO NO NO. You're supposed to be a genius with a hidden dominant side. You're supposed to embrace that dominant size, grow a huge cock and fuck all the females. The MC will not be giving away his harem. Never in the main story."

Once again this is a fair expectation.

"It is a innovative, beautiful product and should contain only the very best of tags. NTR is not one of them."

I'll let that slide because what people like varies.

"The whole story contradicts this kind of "content"."

I agree, if the build-up doesn't correspond to the kink presented, it will feels forced. It just doesn't work if you want to create something coherent. It will be fair if the focus of the game is not the story and the core idea of the game is just a simple "Cum and Dump" concept but in this case, it isn't. The same case could be applied to reversed situations where an ntr game that from the start heavily focuses on ntr but out of nowhere leans into a more wholesome kink.

"I agree this is kink shaming, but this "kink" has basically been plaguing good games for years now."

Huh, at least you are self-aware I guess. An over-exaggeration in your statement but sure, it has some truth in it. When an adult game is already set on how and what the future of the game will be, it is inevitable to feel some loathing? If some kind of unrelated kink got included in the package. Unless it has already been promoted explicitly like "Hey! This game will contain many kinks, the wholesome, degenerate, etc in the future!" Which I presume is not the case here?

"Even though I got my hands on this gem through a pirating site, I'm too invested in its proper development to allow this kind of "trendy NTR content" to be added here. There are enough beautifully made games ruined by this NTR BS out there. Spare this one, unless the dev goes absolutely buck wild and allows it with a public claim on whatever fund raising site they've established for themselves."

That "Even though I got my hands on this gem through a pirating site" just invalidates your right to say "I'm too invested in its proper development to allow this kind of "trendy NTR content" to be added here. There are enough beautifully made games ruined by this NTR BS out there." Unless you have been supporting the dev too or maybe if the developer has been looking for constructive criticism in their game on an adult game pirating website. When either of them happens then you absolutely have the right to say "I'm too invested in its proper development to allow this kind of "trendy NTR content" to be added here."

"Or make it really, really difficult to access. Like lategame, "new game +", level of difficulty, or with a cheatcode. Just make sure it's not part of the main plot."

This is a great idea actually. I like it

Seriously dude, just move on to another game if somehow in the future this game continuously makes you uncomfortable all the time by including any extreme or degenerate stuff like ntr in it. But if you can't then you have to make do with mods or maybe personally create your own path
 
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In any case most of the NTR content is avoidable, Gip it's basically the antagonist and there's not much unavoidable hard content, just some things here and there to make the player want to get rid of Gip xd

Now, the major problem in the game to me it's the double personality of the MC, it's very strange to see how the protagonist technically cucks himself sometimes XDDD I get the idea of the character, but at least to me it feels a bit pointless.
Maybe i would like the idea if you could change with your alter ego and have very few interactions with the other personality. To prevent the character from feeling weird because is constantly fighting with himself lmao
You do actually gain the ability to change ego on demand at a later stage of the game and the last time I played it, ???? had little to no content.

???? actually has many useful abilities, once you get to know him. He gives many tips regarding common sense, is faster to make sexual assumptions that actually mean something, when compared to the MP, who is still mostly innocent. ???? also really wants to solve the main path, which leads to some key findings.
Finally, even though ???? is initially uninhibited,
through time he learns some level of self control,
at least regarding control over libido.

I actually believe that the MP and ???? are supposed to merge into one stable, confident and overall wise entity
by the end of the game,
as they exchange views and learn to co-exist in the body they share.
Though, we need to see where the game plot gets directed.

Finally, the madlad (????) has the best light motif music ever. He's like a spider building a web, only for them to realise they want an equally normal life as the MP they posses. :3
 

Blua ido

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You do actually gain the ability to change ego on demand at a later stage of the game and the last time I played it, ???? had little to no content.

???? actually has many useful abilities, once you get to know him. He gives many tips regarding common sense, is faster to make sexual assumptions that actually mean something, when compared to the MP, who is still mostly innocent. ???? also really wants to solve the main path, which leads to some key findings.
Finally, even though ???? is initially uninhibited,
through time he learns some level of self control,
at least regarding control over libido.

I actually believe that the MP and ???? are supposed to merge into one stable, confident and overall wise entity
by the end of the game,
as they exchange views and learn to co-exist in the body they share.
Though, we need to see where the game plot gets directed.

Finally, the madlad (????) has the best light motif music ever. He's like a spider building a web, only for them to realise they want an equally normal life as the MP they posses. :3
I know that you can change with your alter ego, the problem is the high number of interactions between one and the other, the only times they stop interacting are at church and after he asks if he wants to leave the MC alone for a while in some specific circumstances

I have no problem with each personality having its own content, what disturbs me is that they start somewhat arguing in random circumstances xd
 

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NO NO NO. You're supposed to be a genius with a hidden dominant side. You're supposed to embrace that dominant size, grow a huge cock and fuck all the females. The MC will not be giving away his harem. Never in the main story.

edit: removing the "Not even optional. Never." segment because someone wants to feel included at all costs.
Also removing like 6 lines of NO's because I was simply blinded by absolute rage.
The game didn't even hint at NTR content in it's inseption, so when I saw the tag for the first time, I fell into a coma.
Then this user details his desires and I just went ape shit. This game does not deserve to be here, nor does its finished version deserve such treatment.
It is a innovative, beautiful product and should contain only the very best of tags. NTR is not one of them. As a grindy game, it should not have this kind of content, neither as some kind of deranged reward, nor as a looming threat. My case is closed.

Or, hear me out on this, different people may enjoy different things and you are not forced to enjoy what I enjoy. You enjoy a protagonist who is sleeping around with every girl, some people may prefer one that do not sleep with any more girls than one. Will you tell them that their idea of enjoyment is wrong too? But hey, I really don't want to create another discussion about NTR so I won't bother with responding anymore aside from this comment. I have supported developer however much I could and I have posted my personal opinion. Maybe it was too graphic, if so then I'm sorry, arousal really does meddle with cognitive functions. I still feel entitled to having an opinion and I can only say that I really pity you for being so triggered by a mere thought of something you dislike. It must be a real bother in everyday life. Peace and may you enjoy as much of a content that you like as possible
 
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OK guys here ya go thanks to the butler for restoring original patch(I integrated the updated full patch of yours) the decrypted cheat mod overwrites some ipatch files so decided to include it in base directory but at player discretion to use. Updated to nwjs 63.1 and also encoded patch in AV1 and de-noised a few images. Should be all set and performs far better than boners version. No constant stuttering anymore at least for me. Here ya go enjoy.

The file "scene_flora_100given_8.png" is missing. In both unzipped/installed version and your zipped file. I've checked both file directories. Help pls? This happens after I gave Fiora $100 school of lust bug.PNG
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here's the missing image file incase anyone has the same problem scene_flora_100given_8.png
 
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