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Wow, thanks! remind me in a few days, once I'm done with the next patch, and I'll shoot you an android version. It's incredibly unlikely that it will work, but you can give it a shot.
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The bathroom bug happens after changing her sheets on her bed.
Sorry for my own bug, guess my dyslexia kicked in, at least I had the right numbers, wrong order =) meant 0.35
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Hi taco7! I've finished playing the new Day 1, so here are a few thoughts and questions, with the hope of helping improve the story! (I've also DMed you a few corrections in the text.)
- One technical question: the animations at school are great, but before they start the screen flashes back to RPG mode, and then it slowly (by flashes) goes back to the animation scene. That is different from the other animations in Day 1. Is this how it is supposed to be?
- The new storyline is more interesting than the old one, and also better paced. Good improvement here.
- I still find it difficult to believe the MC's claim that his Landlady "treats him better than most women treat men" -- the first thing we see her do is punish him harshly for something that was obviously not his fault while being lenient on Iris for something that was clearly her fault. Don't get me wrong, I love what she did to him, but how is this logical? Landlady looks like a typical woman from this world (is it maybe just because she calls him "honey"?)
- MC now mentions his father who "disappeared"... Are we going to learn more about him, and why he disappeared? Is it common in this world for men to disappear? Just curious.
- MC follows Iris to school. But doesn't he go to school? Later on he mentions to Iris that maybe Landlady would agree "to homeschool her too" (implying he was homeschooled), but unless I missed something nothing about that had been said before.
- MC says Iris' attitude changed after she started coming to school. But... hasn't she been coming to school since she was a little kid? Wouldn't that have affected her relationship with MC from the very beginning then? Also, doesn't the Landlady also work there? Hasn't the female-superiority system affected her, too?
- It's a bit hard to believe Iris' anger at MC. She blames him for the bullying, but it's obviously not his fault (he didn't even know about it before), rather it's the other girls' fault. How plausible is it for a reasonable girl like Iris not to know that?
- Iris telling MC to help her "have a normal life" by submitting to her is much better than the first version, where her domination came out of nowhere... and her recording him to show at school is a great idea, which I thoroughly enjoyed! The follow-up in which she says her new friends gave her suggestions makes the transition to the following scenes smoother -- that's much better now! (I see the ass-licking scene was moved to later on, in Iris' room. For some weird reason, that does feel better.)
- Iris reacts as if the scene in the bathroom is the first time she sees how small MC's penis is. But a couple of days ago she had seen him be punished naked by Landlady, and from the dialogue it seems this wasn't the first time at all. How come she never noticed how small his penis was before?
- I noticed that, if MC tries to go to the bathroom before knocking on Landlady's room right after Iris takes the jar out of his ass, the game tells us to "go to the punishment chair" without any context. Is this a bug?
- One technical question: the animations at school are great, but before they start the screen flashes back to RPG mode, and then it slowly (by flashes) goes back to the animation scene. That is different from the other animations in Day 1. Is this how it is supposed to be?
- The new storyline is more interesting than the old one, and also better paced. Good improvement here.
- I still find it difficult to believe the MC's claim that his Landlady "treats him better than most women treat men" -- the first thing we see her do is punish him harshly for something that was obviously not his fault while being lenient on Iris for something that was clearly her fault. Don't get me wrong, I love what she did to him, but how is this logical? Landlady looks like a typical woman from this world (is it maybe just because she calls him "honey"?)
- MC now mentions his father who "disappeared"... Are we going to learn more about him, and why he disappeared? Is it common in this world for men to disappear? Just curious.
- MC follows Iris to school. But doesn't he go to school? Later on he mentions to Iris that maybe Landlady would agree "to homeschool her too" (implying he was homeschooled), but unless I missed something nothing about that had been said before.
- MC says Iris' attitude changed after she started coming to school. But... hasn't she been coming to school since she was a little kid? Wouldn't that have affected her relationship with MC from the very beginning then? Also, doesn't the Landlady also work there? Hasn't the female-superiority system affected her, too?
- It's a bit hard to believe Iris' anger at MC. She blames him for the bullying, but it's obviously not his fault (he didn't even know about it before), rather it's the other girls' fault. How plausible is it for a reasonable girl like Iris not to know that?
- Iris telling MC to help her "have a normal life" by submitting to her is much better than the first version, where her domination came out of nowhere... and her recording him to show at school is a great idea, which I thoroughly enjoyed! The follow-up in which she says her new friends gave her suggestions makes the transition to the following scenes smoother -- that's much better now! (I see the ass-licking scene was moved to later on, in Iris' room. For some weird reason, that does feel better.)
- Iris reacts as if the scene in the bathroom is the first time she sees how small MC's penis is. But a couple of days ago she had seen him be punished naked by Landlady, and from the dialogue it seems this wasn't the first time at all. How come she never noticed how small his penis was before?
- I noticed that, if MC tries to go to the bathroom before knocking on Landlady's room right after Iris takes the jar out of his ass, the game tells us to "go to the punishment chair" without any context. Is this a bug?
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I know the answer to some of these things ^_^ actually you answered some of your questions with other questions:
1) The landlady IS nicer than most, her attitude is a large result of (As stated later) shes getting to the end of her rope because he seems to be "getting worse and worse each year", she WAS a lot nicer than we see her before, but shes really getting fed up. (also not gonna lie, there is also a part of me pushing to be actually mean/horrible, but thats me just saying stuff, as far as the story goes, shes just worn out over the most recent years)
2) It was in fact established he is home schooled, before the remake, he was clear and so was the landlady about how he was home schooled. I am not entirely sure if that line got removed in the remake, (I've played the game so many times I can tell you all the lines, but I can't keep track of what was from what version) I'll double check, but from the very get go it was confirmed hes homeschooled.
3) Iris knows, but she can't really do anything about it. She realizes its the bullies, but no matter what, shes the weird one out. She can't lash out at the landlady, so there is only one person she can lash out at. Its not fair, but its a very common thing, kids who bullied, tend to bully someone weaker then them. MC is just unlucky it falls to him. On a side note this IS the result of years happening, thus shes been setting up MC worse and worse over time, and thus go back to your first question about the Landlady's attitude
4) She has seen the penis many times, but if you follow the video (on the nice route), you'll see shes putting on an act. She knows his size problem, shes playing it up for the camera.
5) I thought I caught all those...my bad
usually if you try to go anywhere but to where he's directed to go, it tried to send him to the couch ^_^;;
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A bit further on it's clear that she's putting on an act for a video to show her classmates. Don't take her reaction as genuine but rather as an excuse to humiliate his dick on said video.
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Raven already answered almost of these, but I'll clarify in my own words.
The flashing issue happens for some people, sorry to hear it's happening to you. I think it's caused by some people's computers struggling to load the images in time. The reason you see it on the school animations is because they use a different animation method than most scenes in day one. Unfortunately I doubt I'll be changing animation methods back, because the new one is so much faster. I'm talking 30 seconds vs close to an hour.
If you compare his treatment to the other boys, his life is great. Sure she won't punish iris for bullying him, but she does stop her from seriously hurting him. Most women in the game's world would let iris do whatever she wanted with player. Also you've seen the school. Homeschooling him is a great kindness
The father thing will most likely come back up at some point.
He is homeschooled. There used to be a line in the game describing that, but it probably got cut in the remake. I'll add it back in when I get the chance.
Raven pretty much summed it up. Iris is bullied and unhappy with her life. the mc is the only one she has power over, that she can take it out on.
If you read the dialogue closely, the mc comments that she knows how big his penis is. Iris cuts him off saying "he's going to ruin it" referring to the video.
The bathroom thing is a bug. It will be patched in the next version.
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Hm... Maybe it's because we don't see what other mo... Landladies are like in their own houses. It's just that I find it hard for her, Iris and MC to claim Landlady is so good while at the same time MC complains about how she's unfair to him. But again, maybe he also doesn't know what other Landladies are like.
I seemed to remember a similar line from a previous version too, but I couldn't find it in this version... and taco7 above said maybe this line got deleted during the update. It's no biggie, but it helps with consistency.
Hm... but Iris being bullied suddenly decides what she should do is satisfy her bullies by showing a video of her dominating her brother? Doesn't sound like what bullied children do (what's Iris' age anyway? 17? 18?) I like it better when she talks about "fixing up the screwed up relationship" and "trying to have a normal relationship" -- then it seems what's happening is she thinks the bullies are right (which does happen sometimes, e.g. with people who are bullied because of their social class) and that she should fix her life so that it resembles theirs. That I understand better. Maybe a few lines before could be added/tweaked to foreshadow this in the dialogue with Landlady?...
Yeah, I think I noticed that... but I was a little surprised that her bullies would believe she had never seen his penis before, as the video would suggest. Maybe they'll give her some shit about this. Poor Iris!
Maybe she should take him to school with her to humiliate him there, or at least invite the girls from school over to humiliate him at home. This way Iris could start healing properly.
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I completely agree with you on that, however maybe because of different reasons. For me the fact that she dominated MC mostly because she was being pushed by (the (re)actions of) her peers takes away some purity from MC-Iris relantionship and her behavior towards him. When she dommes him (as in previous version, or at least at day 2) out of concern ("concern"?) for him it creates more intimate and honest (to the extend) relantionship that I found quite interesting and refreshing. Even if she'd be domming him out of sheer cruelty it would be better imo if it would be her own cruelty and not cruelty passed on MC from others; that is to say, in my eyes it makes her character somewhat weaker and while it may be interesting story-wise I prefer to be dommed by a girl who really wants it and is not being pushed to it.
On the other hand, I would mind her asking other students to have a go at MC
That's great. Are all of them similar in terms of general look? I think it would be cool if you'd consider adding some black (not BBW though
) and/or asian girls to the mix?
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asehpe You have some good points, but I think you're looking too deep into the story ^_^;; Even the best written stories will fall apart if you over analyze them. There is just way too many individual case-to-case ways people will react to different stuff, you can look at 10,000 cases of bullying and come with 10,000 different reactions to it.
I agree, definitely want to fill in the plot holes, like mention hes being home schooled, or get a reference to other landladies (we do btw, look at our poor best friend and how hes treated, also there is some examples in the school of various uh...roommates? tenants?) being mistreated to varying degrees. MC is definitely on the lighter side. (one girl seems nice, but admits shes going to get her roommate to rim her, another girl loves making her roommate eat her poop, etc.)
Anyway, my point is, enjoy it and don't go too far in thinking about things, its a porn game at the end of the day ^_^
I agree, definitely want to fill in the plot holes, like mention hes being home schooled, or get a reference to other landladies (we do btw, look at our poor best friend and how hes treated, also there is some examples in the school of various uh...roommates? tenants?) being mistreated to varying degrees. MC is definitely on the lighter side. (one girl seems nice, but admits shes going to get her roommate to rim her, another girl loves making her roommate eat her poop, etc.)
Anyway, my point is, enjoy it and don't go too far in thinking about things, its a porn game at the end of the day ^_^
On that note, Iris has been clear, she does bully him as a way to make friends with the others/fix the "broken relationships in the house", but it is also clear on some lines, she legit enjoys treating him that way. She makes note that he doesn't hate being teased as much as he says he does, and she does take pleasure in his misfortune. I think the extreme/different sides of it will largely swing based on whether you work with Iris or resist her. Shes always been designed that if you follow her/do as ordered, shes nicer/gentle about, if you disobey her, she'll rival sarah in wrecking your ass (who btw, seems to be somewhat asian? I suppose the real asian one would be "kimmy" in school, and there is Lauren (I'm spelling this wrong) who is dark skinned, or supposed to be, she could probably be darker)I completely agree with you on that, however maybe because of different reasons. For me the fact that she dominated MC mostly because she was being pushed by (the (re)actions of) her peers takes away some purity from MC-Iris relantionship and her behavior towards him. When she dommes him (as in previous version, or at least at day 2) out of concern ("concern"?) for him it creates more intimate and honest (to the extend) relantionship that I found quite interesting and refreshing. Even if she'd be domming him out of sheer cruelty it would be better imo if it would be her own cruelty and not cruelty passed on MC from others; that is to say, in my eyes it makes her character somewhat weaker and while it may be interesting story-wise I prefer to be dommed by a girl who really wants it and is not being pushed to it.
On the other hand, I would mind her asking other students to have a go at MC
That's great. Are all of them similar in terms of general look? I think it would be cool if you'd consider adding some black (not BBW though
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Yeah, I've noticed them, but we don't know (at least I think so) if they are potential girlfriends. I still haven't finished the game, I'm waiting for the full remake
And yes, she could (even should! ) be darker.Yes, I don't say that she's not getting any pleasure from it, but it has been said that she became more cruel after she started school, and then we see that the main reason behind that cruelty are her interactions with other schoolgirls. I suppose she would get to the point of showing MC his place in society by herself, but she did change her behavior (maybe not as extremely as MC would lead us to believe but still) because of her friends/bullies; I'd prefer if all of that would be her own idea. Of course, she may be inspired by how others treat their males, but I just don't like her being bullied into it (even if that bullying is far from being severe). That is of course only my opinion and it doesn't really affect the overall pleasure I get from playing the game.
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I think it is of her own volition. I think its a society thing that just is natural to them by this point. The landlady who is by far the weirdest/stand out of the bunch, with how she tried to raise them equally and really pampered him, she clearly has preferences and sadistic tendencies also (this is my not-so-hidden agenda to make her evil/sadist). For example, there is a clear difference in how she treats the MC vs him degrading/talking about badly about women and what she does when she thinks hes interested in becoming a Sissy. Like, shes unfair and the MC is aware of it, but I think she also does secretly enjoy doing things to him and wants to push for him to have certain inclinationsYeah, I've noticed them, but we don't know (at least I think so) if they are potential girlfriends. I still haven't finished the game, I'm waiting for the full remake
Yes, I don't say that she's not getting any pleasure from it, but it has been said that she became more cruel after she started school, and then we see that the main reason behind that cruelty are her interactions with other schoolgirls. I suppose she would get to the point of showing MC his place in society by herself, but she did change her behavior (maybe not as extremely as MC would lead us to believe but still) because of her friends/bullies; I'd prefer if all of that would be her own idea. Of course, she may be inspired by how others treat their males, but I just don't like her being bullied into it (even if that bullying is far from being severe). That is of course only my opinion and it doesn't really affect the overall pleasure I get from playing the game.
So to me, yes Iris has been nudged by the bullying to act out on it/change things at home, but it was never going to take much, at this point it comes as naturally to the girls as walking. They might all have varying degrees of how they think/treat the boys, but that looking down on them and how to guide them is universal
Edit: Just re-read what you wrote, but school WOULD make her get worse, look at how they groom the women, its there to definitely shift the views of men to be inferior, with enough brain washing/thinking like that, of course her views would change, but that is less a result of the bullies than the system itself
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I see where you are coming from, but consider this: Iris, as a bullied child, is wishing to "please her bullies" because she thinks they're right; so she starts domming her... roommate, the MC. Depending on how day/week 2 is rewritten, that could lead to some interesting development on Iris' side, in which she realizes there's a conflict here (what is more important: looking cool at school or keeping her previous friendship with MC) and tries to solve it. This could be interesting.
But the setting suggests to me the following: the belief in this world is that men should submit, with MC being a rare exception. So even though Iris is bullied to some extent, it is not because the bullies think something weird; rather, they simply agree with the majority opinion in this world. Teachers, advisors, the school principal etc. probably agree with the bullies' ideas, though not with their methods. So maybe Iris simply sees that as a way to solve "all" problems: she stops being bullied, and her (in her view) dysfunctional family is corrected so that all relationships become normal! In this framework, the question is only if she can preserve her friendship with her brother (which the "good" route kind of suggests she can, if he ends up agreeing with her that it will be best for him to become more like the other guys and submit gleefully to her whims). In this case, Iris' character purity can be preserved: she's not being powered by the bullies, rather by the whole world, the bullies being simply an unpleasant but small part of it.
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What I was trying to say, but I think you said it way better XDI see where you are coming from, but consider this: Iris, as a bullied child, is wishing to "please her bullies" because she thinks they're right; so she starts domming her... roommate, the MC. Depending on how day/week 2 is rewritten, that could lead to some interesting development on Iris' side, in which she realizes there's a conflict here (what is more important: looking cool at school or keeping her previous friendship with MC) and tries to solve it. This could be interesting.
But the setting suggests to me the following: the belief in this world is that men should submit, with MC being a rare exception. So even though Iris is bullied to some extent, it is not because the bullies think something weird; rather, they simply agree with the majority opinion in this world. Teachers, advisors, the school principal etc. probably agree with the bullies' ideas, though not with their methods. So maybe Iris simply sees that as a way to solve "all" problems: she stops being bullied, and her (in her view) dysfunctional family is corrected so that all relationships become normal! In this framework, the question is only if she can preserve her friendship with her brother (which the "good" route kind of suggests she can, if he ends up agreeing with her that it will be best for him to become more like the other guys and submit gleefully to her whims). In this case, Iris' character purity can be preserved: she's not being powered by the bullies, rather by the whole world, the bullies being simply an unpleasant but small part of it.
On the other hand, I would mind her asking other students to have a go at MC
That's great. Are all of them similar in terms of general look? I think it would be cool if you'd consider adding some black (not BBW though
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You're of course entirely right. But we are all, I guess, who we are. I care a lot about literature and story-telling; and I don't think porn is "just porn," it is a literary genre that can be made as artistic and appealing as any other. Still, there's nothing wrong with a game being simple, so I take your point.
I was a bit surprised there, because Sarah does look Asian but Sarah wouldn't be my first pick for the name of an Asian girl... Still, neither would Kimmy. I guess in the end they are all just all-American girls from various backgrounds who share a common culture and a keen interest in abusing men, which makes them all adorable.
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I agree, I love a good story too and think that a "porn story" isn't a reason to totally neglect story, its just at some point a line has to be drawn, like as long as things make a certain amount of sense or motivations are clear/there isn't some super plot hole, you just have to stop analyzing it, or we'll never progress beyond the prologue XD you could literally write a novel on the backstory behind this world in itself with its political views/culture/history/etc.
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Yes, I agree and I don't have anything against this idea. But in the story presented in the game it seems (at least to me) like the bullies had more influence on her than the school itself. If MC would simply discover what she's being taught in school and how she agrees with these notions and wants to put MC in its rightful place it would be more preferable to me. But I did wrote that the current bullies-Iris dynamic has more potential story-wise and I wouldn't be surprised if it'll win me over soon.
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MC never got to see what she was taught (we never see the students having classes), so it's difficult to gauge. Now, I agree that it would also make sense if Iris simply agreed with the whole system and tried to implement it at home, but I like the idea of her being bullied because it creates a certain dynamic. I imagine she was at first in disagreement with the system, being, as she is, Landlady's dau... I mean, tenant. Women being, after all, people, the bullying would naturally ensue, and how Iris deals with it becomes interesting. It would be nice if we had more details on Iris' relationship with the bullies, and whether or not she agreed with them or just wanted to be "one of the cool girls" (à la Mean Girls). Maybe they'll turn out not be "bullies" but just girls who really want Iris to change her situation at home, and who Iris wants to impress as potential future friends.
I tend to disagree; I think if you do it well, then the "porn story" becomes both a source of titillating situations and images (and sounds and music...) and also an engaging story that tickles you on more levels than one. I agree that this is way harder, though. Still... I'm trying to work on a storyline that maybe would be such a game (if I happen to have enough talent to do it). It's still an idea with a few parts very clear and others still in the dark, but I have some hope.
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I think the next update will make this a little clearer, but her change in personality has more to do with her trying to emulate what she sees as the normal relationship everyone else has.
She starts off bullying as a way to try and fit in, but quickly discovers that dominating her brother arouses her. She makes the video partly to get the bullies off her back, but also as an excuse to make her bullying more sexual.
The nice route will be going towards iris and the player admitting they both enjoy her dominating him, but when they're alone they will have a more respectful dom-sub relationship. That being said, they have to keep up appearances. So when other girls are around, she'll have to act like a "normal" girl. Much to her enjoyment.
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