Second Poll: improvements/new directions in incest-themed games

[0x-x-x0]

I have no problem with a bad MC or a blackmail story.
The problem is the victim. After 5 seconds she moans: "Yeah fuck me, I love it."
It's unbelievable, it's stupid. At least give me some emotional consequences.

- NO more shota and loli stuff! No characters with child-like features please! And for m/s games: Make the sons taller than the moms.

We need more shota content. I play games, because I want to play a role, I can't do in real life. If I want a normal romantic relationship with a woman, I don't need to play games.

 

[Gomly1980]

We need more shota content. I play games, because I want to play a role, I can't do in real life.

And that role is, a child?

You do you, fella.

Just be grateful they never made me a mod because I was all for rule 7 that banned loli and shota content. I would have banned it all from the site.

I hate kink shaming people but I just can't agree or see eye to eye with anyone that can get off by looking at a child. I don't care if it's a picture, it's still the depiction of a child and i'm glad England had the common sense to make that shit illegal.

 

[0x-x-x0]

What's your problem? Some people like gender bender, monster tentacle sex, rape or what ever. There is no harm, if I want to play a game with a shota MC who bangs hot milfs. It's fantasy, not real.

i'm glad England had the common sense to make that shit illegal.

England has much higher child abuse rates than japan. Think about it.

 

[Gomly1980]

England has much higher child abuse rates than japan. Think about it.

And what does that have to do with naked images of children?

Those others you listed aren't kids.

Nothing you nor anyone else says will ever make me see that acceptable.

 

[0x-x-x0]

And what does that have to do with naked images of children?

I don't know, maybe 1+1=2.
There is the same discussion about things like shooter games. There is absolut no reason to ban something nobody get hurt. But some people can't tell reality and fiction apart.

 

[Kyraneth]

Hey guys. Remember that hentai and reality aren't equal and have nothing in common. It was discussed just yesterday about zoo\furry content. If there is something in the world - some ppl will have boner on it.

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[gunderson]

Hmm. How do you make an incest porn game?

Let's see. First, make at least some of the characters that the protagonist seduces be his blood relatives. Aka, incest. Not landlady/tenant, not roommates, not friends of the family, not weird neighbors they live with, not some dumb adoption scheme. I-N-C-E-S-T.

Second, make him or her have actual sex with them (I happen to prefer heterosexual vaginal sex and blowjobs, myself, but you may prefer different hardcore sex acts). Aka, porn. You can make people just showering or whatever for an update or two, but eventually (and I mean by update four) there had better be some dick inside some family members or lesbians dildoing each other or whatever.

Third, make there be some gameplay. Maybe there are RPG-style battles, or maybe it's a resource management game, or maybe there's puzzling or platforming or something. Just make it a fucking game of some sort!

There ya go. Everything else is gravy. And before anybody tries to say this shit is obvious, consider how many projects try to skimp on one or more of these things while still trying to sell people on the idea that they're making an incest game.

 

[Gomly1980]

Hmm. How do you make an incest porn game?

Let's see. First, make at least some of the characters that the protagonist seduces be his blood relatives. Aka, incest. Not landlady/tenant, not roommates, not friends of the family, not weird neighbors they live with, not some dumb adoption scheme. I-N-C-E-S-T.

Second, make him or her have actual sex with them (I happen to prefer heterosexual vaginal sex and blowjobs, myself, but you may prefer different hardcore sex acts). Aka, porn. You can make people just showering or whatever for an update or two, but eventually (and I mean by update four) there had better be some dick inside some family members or lesbians dildoing each other or whatever.

Third, make there be some gameplay. Maybe there are RPG-style battles, or maybe it's a resource management game, or maybe there's puzzling or platforming or something. Just make it a fucking game of some sort!

There ya go. Everything else is gravy. And before anybody tries to say this shit is obvious, consider how many projects try to skimp on one or more of these things while still trying to sell people on the idea that they're making an incest game.

That wasn't the question at all, not even close.

You pitched the idea for a generic, bland game we've seen a hundred times before.

The question was how to do devs improve that so they aren't boring as fuck.

I shouldn't really expect much from someone that still hasn't realised incest is banned from Patreon and incest games need to be changed to stay up there.

 

[gunderson]

That wasn't the question at all, not even close.

You pitched the idea for a generic, bland game we've seen a hundred times before.

The question was how to do devs improve that so they aren't boring as fuck.

I shouldn't really expect much from someone that still hasn't realised incest is banned from Patreon and incest games need to be changed to stay up there.

See title of thread:
Second Poll: improvements/new directions in incest-themed games

If you don't want to talk about making incest games, why are you even here?

Beyond that, I didn't pitch a game. I pitched game elements that the vast majority of authors are usually too lazy/nervous to do: actually address the fetish, make hardcore sex scenes (it is much easier to just show naked ladies alone in a room than have naked ladies and dudes having penetrative sex with cum, but the latter is in my opinion essential to a good sex game), and code something more complicated than the tired-as-fuck VN game where you click through mindless dialogue until boobs show up that everybody and their mother can make in Ren'Py so that their game is instead at least a little fun to play.

The OP didn't ask whether or not you could make incest games on Patreon (patches are a great thing), and I never said (and would never say) that Patreon is the only platform on which to make games.

More broadly speaking, my point is that the theme/setting/protagonist's outlook/believability of plot or not is absolutely not the problem here. The real problem is that nobody wants to play an incest porn game that isn't an incest porn game at all.

As far as ideas, that shit is easy. Actually spend some time playing the games that are out there, think about the sort of thing you want to play, and spend at least a week actually planning your game and considering what you can make based on your skills and resources before starting off. Having an asshole protagonist can be as fun as having a nice one. Having a dumb-but-fun plot can be better than a really serious and emotional plot if you do it right. You only feel comfortable making a game in a house? Make a game in a house, but make a floorplan first, think through the relationships between the characters and their histories, and decide whether you want a realistic schedule for the characters or to sacrifice realism for fun/sexitude.

The real truth is there's no shortcut to making a good game. There's no checklist of things you should avoid to lazily crap out some gold. Time and effort and thought are what can do it relatively reliably. But if you just want to make a quick buck, I can't help you. I don't care about your wallet. I just want good games. And if the game is good, I might pay up. So bear that in mind.

 

[CavDaKnight]

I for one totally agree with Gomly1980 about rule 7. Loli/shota have no reason to be up on this site. Games like the cartoon art one with the mom, Amazon sister and clearly not even in High School kids game shouldn't be on this site. I was sickened when I originally seen it on the site and was appalled when I seen it was allowed back on the site due to some loophole in the rules. Use your head moderators.... If it looks like loli/shota, than call it what it is and fuck what people say. Putting a chandelier in a haunted house just makes it a haunted house with a nice light fixture...

Anyway, I got off topic of this thread. I for one like to see more freehand artwork like David Goujard (Vega Hunters, Behind the Dune) or Dark Cookie (Summertime Saga). I enjoy the Daz3d renders, just after a while all the games start to look the same because everyone uses the same few models (Cookie Cutter games, boo!) Less MONSTER boobs (Ease up BeggarOfNet, Faerin and all you Honey Select dev's...). More realistic models, with body types to match. Not everyone in the game you are creating needs to be a runway model, as most folks want a game that has some realistic aspects to it. A few top notch non-popular game Milf models I've seen on the site are Jessie: Mother's sins by Caprice (Though she needs to be aged a bit more and so do the 2 kids in the game), Ethan's Legacy by VengeanceXXX (though do something with the eyes, they creepy as fuck) and the mother and aunt in Dual Family by Gumdrop Games.

A few things that drive me up the wall with games and the top of the list is dev's who seem to make shit up as they go. Have your game idea laid out before you start. Don't veer off the path you've chosen due to peer pressure as this only makes your experience with making the game unenjoyable. Its your game, people don't like it, they don't have to play it. You are the only one who needs to be happy with the work you've done. Follow the KISS method, Keep It Simple Stupid, This isn't Game of Thrones porn edition where you need a few score of women/men/aliens/furries/whatever to seduce and screw. A handful of characters is good enough for a first kick at the game making cat, and if you enjoyed it, and decide to make another, add more if you want. I enjoyed SuperPowered by Night City Productions, until it got too grindy and he kept feeling the need to add more characters to the game. FINISH WHAT YOU START!! And by this I mean don't get a few updates into a game and decide to revamp it into something else. This goes back to the have your game idea laid out before you start and not giving into peer pressure. If your using a game engine and decide its not for you and you want to use another, that is fine. One of the best rendered games out there did just that and it seems to have worked well for Motkeyz and his Timestamps, Unconditional Love game.

Probably some other things I can add, but I'm too tired to think of more at the moment. But I offer you the best of luck on your game making, and hope to see something from you in the near future!