Ren'Py - Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.04 Dev] [Vénus Noire]

  1. 5.00 star(s)

    coco_16_

    One of the few porn games with actually decent writing lmao. Both technically and plot-wise. I only hope they don't go overboard with the video-game/management aspect of things. Keep that part simple and focus on the story.
  2. 2.00 star(s)

    MoneyMan181

    TL;DR: Repetitive mindless gameplay, most characters are unlikable cunts, and a third of the content is just NTR/Gay stuff(Yes, I've done the math out of 300 scenes). Only real redeeming qualities are decent in-the-moment writing and fantastic art.

    I'll be straight up I've only played the game a handful of hours so I haven't seen most of the content but I've been told it's more of the same so make of that what you will. However it's my opinion that if I have to play a game over 5 hours before I have any fun, it's not worth it. Especially so for any game on this site.

    For something that's inspired by Berserk, Dark Souls, and The Witcher, it seems to completely miss the mark on what makes those pieces of media actually interesting and gripping. I honestly have no idea how it has anything in common with them. I guess because the MC is forced into dark and fucked-up situations, but that would be a stretch to call inspiration.

    The premise is simple. You're a hero who helped defeat the last demon lord and now his kids are forcing you to work for them and take over the world. A nice easy set-up that could allow a lot of content for either trying to do the good thing or being a corrupt asshole. Problem here is that most of the sexual content is gated behind every character being a piece of shit. Most scenes involving MC's wife is NTR, a ton of scenes are non/dub-con, and there's no real benefit for playing a good guy in terms of sexual content.

    OK that's fine if you're into all that, but what if you're not like I am? Maybe the plot is interesting enough to play for? Not really, it's just a generic ass fantasy world with demons trying to take over the world and you have to help said demons do it. Maybe later content I haven't gotten to has political intrigue but I heavily doubt it, as there's no politicking to be had with the twins you work for. You must do what they say, and if you don't, they take what they want by force. The end.

    What about the characters then? Maybe they're appealing enough to stick with the game? Not from what I've seen. They're all either extremely boring tropes and/or just frustrating to read. The dwarf guy is a generic dwarf guy, the goblin girl is a generic goblin girl, the wizard girl is a generic wizard girl. Christ even the main character and his wife are just extremely generic goody two-shoes or become hedonistic douchebags, it doesn't seem like there's much of any depth to these characters. And don't even get me started on the demon twins you're forced to work for and interact with the whole game. All they do is act like petulant spoiled brats and give you orders. They're not charismatic, they're not interesting, and they're so incompetent you basically have to do everything for them. Manage their army, get them money, build up their castle, do diplomacy/subterfuge, etc. You can try to undermine them, but that doesn't actually matter yet.

    Gameplay is just exploring a hexagonal grid map trying to do random encounters. It's extremely boring and repetitive. I was already getting sick of it by the time I decided to write this. Not much else to say about it other than I almost definitely would've quit because of this if it wasn't for the other things.

    OK surely you can play for the scenes at least, right? Heavily depends on what you're into. Like I said in the TL;DR, NTR and Gay stuff make up just about a 33% of the sex scenes and it just gets worse from there. Oh you're not into orgies and dub/non-con either? That's over half the scenes gone. Not into BDSM? There's another decent chunk right there. I'd like to think I'm not a super vanilla guy(I play fenoxo games and enjoy /ss/ ffs), but when most of the scenes are so heavily focused on somewhat cruel power dynamics, it can be hard to find a reason to even bother with this stuff.

    Besides the serviceable lewd writing and great art, I'm not really sure why this is so heavily praised. It's just such a boring slog in almost every way and there's no real pay-off it seems.
  3. 2.00 star(s)

    molitar

    Games makes you think your going to be a hero and if you deny becoming a damn villain. Game over their is only be a villain or die. The introduction does not even indicate this unless you actually read the spoiler.

    UI: 4/5
    Sound: 4/5
    Story: depends if you want evil to win. I play heroes so 1/5 if you want to be an evil bastard than you can reverse it.

    I could not get any further because the beginning makes you think you will be the hero to save his wife but it fools you! You don't even have a chance to escape and be a hero it's just game over. So there is no real meaning to your choices it's all a lie and this is what ruins the game play!
  4. 3.00 star(s)

    The_Patriarch43

    Not good but not bad either. Wasted Poential in some ways.

    Was struggling between 3 and 4 but despite some good character build-ups between MC and some chicks, there is no Harem and wont be which sucks
    when you think there are dozens fetishes, a good amount of branching choices and "bad ends".(wasted potential)
    With that + the game is grindy with no much variation and the World Map feels empty of life (another wasted potential), its just a 3 and its only saved
    because of how the FMC, or rather the second Protagonist stayed loyal to the MC with her arc and different CGs. ( Credit where Credit is due since
    this one was made cheffs kiss good but could have been more content with her and MC since her cotent seems to be cuckhold focused. Wish every Non-NTR games who have different path would have this level of quality).

    I, however thought to jump the ship after how forced some Pseudo-NTR it throwed at you, ups I mean "consequencses" which one of the
    Devs wanted just because but the art and animations smoothed it out a bit. And yeah you heard me right buddy two main protags. You cant rename the MC since there is not one but two and you play them on the same time, male and female -> Husband and Wife.

    I played the No-NTR route so this review is based on that. Never touched the Gay/Futa/Cuckhold stuff and to my surprise I didnt encountered them
    despite in some dialog options either gay or NTR content could be chosen. (Thought they wouldnt even pop up in the first place)

    The story is intetesting at first but is also very cliche. You probably can guess it. Big Bad Mao/Evil Demon lord is this very close to conquer/destroy
    the world but its safed just in time because plot and MC. From there it gets annoying how edgy it is in some parts of the story which sadly really dumbs
    down the story. Im talking here scribble hub type of edgylord stuff but aint that terrible overall. I dont expect a Opus Magnum of story or Grim Dark
    story telling in a porn game, yet there are already better ones who crafted it much better without sounding, well, edgy. The game supposedly was inspired by Berserk, Dark Souls and The Witcher which im well aware of their characters and the world and even a big fan of two of them, hence I expected some similarites in either world building or at least themes. Im confused to see these 3 being mentioned when I dont see even the simplest glimps of it however. Edgelord level of "corruption" aint Witcher or Bersek, tho some scenes could be interpreted as such. Probably all this is in the NTR path so take it with a grain of salt lol.

    It is possible to have a good amount of MC-Dick-Only scenes with other chicks and despite some have a really good chemistry, some tend to fall flat at some scenes like they began their relationship at zero again. The other thing what is a miss is how the MC is.
    Since the MC is a "evil" (lol) guy, you will play as such and there is not much to change that. Its more like, again only played the No-NTR path
    so im not aware how the MC behaves in these, you either a true evil guy who dont have morals and no self respect towards himself, others or even his own wife, some edgelord who wants revenge and keeps talking how close he is about to do it but never really does, or some one who tries to stay loyal to
    his old cause but also not really.

    And then there is the "timer" mechanic which alone makes me hate this game even more then the NTR in it, which says alot. It allows you to explore but can easy backfire since you dont really know what you have to do to obtain a specific result. Its pushes you to keep on moving or you get a game end.

    There is a Main Quest log but it only follows that, the rest you have to dig through about 1000 comments for clues or hints IF there
    are different ways of solving a quest or if you even finished all the current contend. So if you play and try either exploring or follow a idea you want
    to try you can end up losing and have to restart once again. Its all fine when you have to do it 2-3 times but when its reached over 10 and you
    also start to abandon your run since you realised you made a wrong turn somewhere in your mid game because you read hours later in this forum that there is a other way to solve it. I reached a point where I didnt even re-read dialogs since I had to focus on reaching a specific goal under a specific turn. If the game wants to focus on characters and world building this was a bad idea.

    The more I played two Question popped in my head.
    Why cant I get all the chicks ? Dont mind getting the "bad" consequences and make the game more harder this way, be it game mechanic or story wise since it would suit the setting pretty much.
    And
    What is the whole purpose of this game ?
    Never played Corruption of Champions, Slavemaker but heard of Legend of Queen Opala but also never played so im not aware if the game
    hit the mark on this one. But I thought at the beginning that the MC wants his revenge on the twins yet the more I played the more I thought
    MC is just a simple tool for sex stuff to happend without any real reason. Some scenes makes perfect sense...some read and looks like it was forced
    upon, lets say patreon wishes/polls and it needed somewhat to fit into the setting.
    Also I dont expect the MC revenge to be any decent, let alone good. While Jezere (Female Demon Antagonist) could end as MC personal onahole,
    I dont see how MC cant take revenge on Andras (Male Demon Antagonist) since he dont have romantic feelings for her sister nor does he have a wife nor a mother. So cucking him is not possible and everything else wont count as a good revenge in a story where sex is the main selling point.
    Like a Pornwha about Revenge but the douche/antagonist wont get cucked by the MC type of stuff.

    Would I suggest this to a Harem gamer ?
    -> Hell nah. Its more Cum-and-Dump type of scenarious IF you have the No-NTR path on

    Would I suggest for people who want to have a typical porngame with focus on hetero stuff ?
    -> Maybe ? Depends and what people can tolorate when it comes to grinding and level of edgy stuff.

    Would I suggest for people who want good revenge story ?
    -> Nah since the things I mention above.

    Would I suggest for people who want a quick fap ?
    -> Yeah since CGs looks pretty fire but you can find them on ex-hentai without grinding for days.

    In the end Im liking some parts of it but its also gets disappointing the more I play. Imagine a rough Diamond which instead of getting refined, its
    instead gets washed again and again while the process of refining didnt even happend and get sold like that. Sure, some people prefer that but imagine
    the wasted potential guys... The game mechanics like World Map roaming and Building Upgrades in "Your" castle as like the bit of RPG Items is in my eyes the best the game has to offer. Hands down one of the best I currently saw on this site and only a other game with two Symbotic Parasites trumps it.

    Since its a porn game however with a very focus on sex, here is where I get disappointed. And since its been 8 whole years and its still 0.3 im not sure
    if I shall be happy since then the stuff I criticized will be fixed perhaps this decade, or a bad thing since after all this time, well, we got this.
  5. 4.00 star(s)

    Pope1233

    At this point, you probably already know this game is good before reading my opinion on it, but I'll give it anyways.

    First and foremost, I had this game recommended as an NTR game, as that is the genre I love the most. If you're in a similar boat, don't expect a good cuck/NTR game, it isn't one. There is NTR content, but it lacks almost all punch as the relationship Rowan has with his wife Alexia is pretty much non-existent. In some scenes, they constantly talk about how they love one another, but Rowan almost immediately will fuck any girl he meets (if you so choose), rarely showing remorse for it. And Alexia isn't much better. Tho that is just my rant on the NTR side of things, that is not where this game shines.

    Where the game does shine is in art, world, and story. This game surprised me with how much it hooked me with a lot of its characters and storytelling. I started the game with 0 knowledge of what to expect and very quickly thought to myself that it would be a typical hero story, but it flipped me entirely on my head. Almost immediately I was taken from noble hero to burning cities down so that I could please my demon mistress enough to get a thigh job. The world lends heavily from the world of D&D, with Driders, Goblins, Dark Elves, and the like. It all amplifies the world to make it feel like its own fantasy setting. The little details are what sell it, going to cities and hearing about the crops they are growing, or the nuances of Elven society, or the history of Goblin politics. The world has a history to it, and that's one of the game's strongest assets. Its other strong asset I mentioned earlier, is its art. The CGs for this game are amazing. The dark and whispy style of art they use for most of the scenes is amazing, it adds to the feeling of the world. All sex scenes feel satisfying, with the right amount of detail in all the right places. I really can't praise the art enough, it's almost comedic such effort is put towards porn of all things, but I'm all for it.

    They also really try to hit a lot of kinks in this game. Feet, Femdom, Maledom, Gay, straight, Bi, Anal, Breeding, beast sex, NTR, rape, and more. You'll most likely find something your into with the sheer volume of CGs the game has. I ended up entirely invested in Jezera domming me and forcing me to submit to her. I wasn't even a huge femdom fan before this, but the game awakened that in me.

    As for the worse parts of the game, I'll just list them out.

    • Bloated gameplay mechanics that have no to little use.
    • A pointless leveling system with associated stats that turn certain encounters into a frustrating slog of reloading over and over to get a perfect roll. (Seriously if I wanted a dice roll system, I'd play a CRPG)
    • No ability to scroll back and select different choices. If you didn't save recently then have fun.
    • An annoying map exploration system that is more tedious than anything
    • Timelines that require you to reach certain points in the game in a certain amount of weeks or face instant death
    • Lack of character depth in Alexia (Seriously, she constantly says she's "just a housewife", and that is her entire personality)
    • Overly ambitious goals. Honestly, it's hard to say how close this game is to finishing with just how high they shot with this game.
    • Lack of Jezera content. Ok this is a personal gripe but come on, she's the dam mascot for the game, and I barely get to interact with her. Give me more femdom dammit.
    • An annoying to navigate gallery system.
    • Overindulgent in the story at times. (The siege on Rastedel took way too long and had so much dialogue on nothing of interest that I nearly fell asleep)
    All in all the game is solid. That is a lot of negatives, but trust me when I say the story and amount of content in this game will keep you hooked for hours, and while not a perfect score for this one, I can see it earning one further down the development road. I came for the NTR, but I stayed for the femdom.
  6. 4.00 star(s)

    rafaellos

    A lot of content made over the years made this game good. But i can't say it's one of my favorite. Although art is great i didn't find this game very interesting story or gameplay wise.
    Art 4/5
    Story 3/5
    Gameplay 3/5
    Fapability 3.5/5
    Originality 4.5/5
  7. 5.00 star(s)

    foolfoolfool

    This game is one of my favourite H games ever released. There's a shit ton of amazing art for every scene and all the scenes are hot as fuck. I'd recommend it to anyone who likes the sound of the tags associated with it.

    But it's important to know that there are two points (so far) where if you don't meet certain requirements before the deadline your game will end, so just make sure you pay attention to get that stuff done. (It isn't hard to do, don't worry).

    Overall, a great experience and I'm really glad I played it.
  8. 4.00 star(s)

    downloaderbo

    Played version 0.3.07c

    The game is really promising.

    Pros.
    - Great storytelling.
    - Very good art.
    - Worked system for gameplay.

    Cons.
    - Can't go back to choices by mouse rolling back. If you find a bug after a choice, you're as good as dead.

    Very good looking, interesting game. But, that limitation will ruin your fun.
  9. 4.00 star(s)

    ineedtonut

    Had this game in my "to-play-list" for about six years now. I must say that this is probably a must-play for NTR-enjoyers. I'm personally not to fond of NTR-content, but dissociating with my real life values and immersing myself into this fantasy world and acting like a tyrant was truly fun. Even the occasional cock up my arse was, though not personal preference, a humorous occasion, which lightend the mood.
    The artwork is exceptionally well done and I found myself gazing for quite a while at some pictures, especially in Rivadael.
    One of the best stories I've read in the eroge genre, maybe even in gaming itself (recency bias and personal interest) was with Greyhide. I really want to give my praise to whomever wrote it. Those stories felt immensely human and relateably, yet never failed to make me smile.
    Of course not everything is ideal and there are some areas of the game where a lot of work has to be done, but it's not in version 0.3 for no reason. I will come back in a couple of years to see how it evolved.
    I'm really interested to see, in which direction the castle building and world map will go (UI, Extensions, Events).
    A big QOL improvement would be an indicator (e.g. red exclamation mark) in your castle when you return from exploring, to immeadiately see where a new event has been unlocked, as this was very frustrating to maneuver through all the time.
    For now I would recommend anyone to at least give it a try for a couple of hours who likes the eroge genre.

    PS: Fuck Andras - all my homies hate Andras. What a truly detestable character - well done writers!
  10. 4.00 star(s)

    htc89234

    Seeds of Chaos is a genuinely good game hidden behind thirteen different veils of randomness and a couple mechanics and things the devs thought of putting in the game and never ended up going fully through with it - also known as the wonderful world of biting off more than you can chew. It is the sort of game that is definitely too expansive for its own good - too many flags, too many checks, too much of everything - and eventually, something breaks, something snaps, one of the hidden variables didn't reset when you loaded the game or you moved them a bit too far because you walked left twice instead of once in your new gameplay attempt and now dialogues are changed slightly and the order of events has been thrown out of sorts - they're mostly random, after all.

    Worse, some things can change a lot, and some things can change very little. Choosing whether or not a character has a closer relationship to you or not can change small pieces of dialogue, but it doesn't seem to lock you out of their route or scenes - but pushing back a bit too much in a single scene that isn't quite to your fancy or you don't feel that you should currently be getting? That can suddenly close the whole progression permanently, for what seems to be little to no reason. It's a hard game to understand.

    Seeds of Chaos is also a lot about domination - maledom and femdom alike. Our MC can both be someone's maledom while also being both the sub of either a woman or a guy, if it so strikes your fancy - and it makes for an honestly pretty interesting story. I hope there is at least one route or path where eventually, you can turn the femdom relationship on its' head and become the actual ruler of the place, but only time will tell; the power struggles and chain pulling and how far you're willing to lend yourself out to someone to advance plot points is an interesting take, but since the game is so expansive and all variables are hidden, it's hard to tell what's really going on behind the scenes, and taking on a "measured" gameplay feels very redundant.

    For the NTR content, there's not much to say - it's optional, partially stupid, and to me it barely feels like it, because Rowan is definitely not averse to fucking whatever he comes across with little to no regard for his wife if that is what you desire to pick for yourself. His wife, on the other hand, shows up so little and has such little characterization I can barely be bothered to even read the scenes she shows up in, with other characters such as Helayna or Liurial being a far more interesting read; even Jezera herself is, and I'm not into femdom.

    The gameplay isn't bad but it utilizes classic DnD skillpoints - the events are all entirely random so sometimes you'll just lose a check that you didn't even know nor could opt into coming and it just feels so shitty. Sometimes events will ask for these checks out of the blue - you reload, try to spend your points wiser, and the event never shows up again because hey, it's random.

    The "actual" gameplay is walking around a hexgrid map, being faced with random events, and choosing things. The game contains both an item system (the preferable way of raising your stats), and an equipment system (which I've never fucking used); just more mechanics that seemed like the devs wanted to implement and realized it was not worth doing. Choosing things in this VN is particularly annoying because as said in this review, they can change small things for a long time in the future or they can change big things very immediately but since it's all somewhat randomly triggered (or takes several weeks to trigger again and progress events) it takes time for the result of your choices to sink in - time filled with more random events, that when you reload might not even show up anyway. Furthermore, they removed how if you return through the scroll wheel/pgup behind a choice you can choose something different - choices are locked until you actually load a file, making managing the save files a bit of a mess when you're finding out everything the game has to offer and finding out the combination of choices that can lead to different lines of dialogue or things down the line.

    All in all, this game has great setting, some good characters, a somewhat wide variety of porn, and it is all dulled down very badly by a thoroughly randomized gameplay that truly just needn't exist. The storytelling, the characters, and particularly Rowan's (the main character) development carries this VN to a 4 out of 5 (helped greatly by the fact the sex scenes are very well drawn). It's a bit of an annoying game past a while though, and it works best as a 'one shot' play where you just go through it once and see where it leads you instead of fumbling around trying to explore every nook and cranny - the game just isn't meant to be enjoyed like that, I guess, with how much randomness is in it.
  11. 3.00 star(s)

    John Bon Clay

    Notice: v0.3.08 review (though I played it a couple of releases earlier and will wait even more, I did not play this version)
    To make this review even fair, or any review here fair one should know where ones interests are. This isn't like sports where one can "review" without being biased for their team, or in this case tags.
    So I think it's good for you to know I am a fan of the tags Femdom and NTR, if you really must know I would say soft femdom IRL, but not NTR, not man enough to try that out for real. Or I am but I can't see it working out :).

    Now, I am sure that the art somewhere started to change and the game as well. The game started out good, a lot of femdom and NTR. I even bought the game on steam, yeah! My first and only game I bought on early access. But after that the game somehow went downhill, a little time after I bought it I would say. The moment before you could enter Rastadel, that's when this game started going south in my opinion. I am sure something happened and the game became more focused on other kinks and art became more different even if it somehow tried to keep it's style.
    A guess would be that the devs became stingy and tried to cheapskate stuff while having a conflict but either way. They have done some good things too, not all is bad! The dancer prostitute dancer has good content, the NTR lacking, and the magic libarary woman, while still good feels different.
    This game when I started it was a bit of a mess, they improved the gameplay but tbh, I would rather go back to the old gameplay and all if the game could just follow the same direction..
    Another split and maybe you will have vanilla sex now and maledom fans and futa will go disappointed like me? Is that possible? Just an idea that struck me.
    After this game I never bought another game on early access. well I mean we all learn that lesson sooner or later, I learnt it sooner :)

    Also that was a bit of venting, the game is good! I mean it! I just wouldn't pay for it, as I did. I could do without it. If they at least tried to follow the same steps, as when I payed for it then yeah. Venting again :). The game is good and worth playing! At times you would even feel the game is 5 stars but when you reach rastadel you will feel the stars falling, and in my case.. I ended up with 3 stars. - as I'm writing this review- 3rd October 2022
    This game had the potential to be among the best.. I wouldn't say that now.
  12. 3.00 star(s)

    Jolly_Rancher33

    The content, art and premise are top notch, and the drama between Rowan and Alex is believable. I mainly docked it two stars because
    1. A promising character that would have fufilled a great fetish of mine, Roise, was removed. X'artel is nice, hot, and lovey dovey, but the main reason I came into this game was the hope of futa NTR. I got plenty of NTR, but little futa, and no combination of the two.
    2. The taking of the capital is an absolute drag, with no porn and scenes that strech on for an eternity, with new characters that I don't care for, I eventually gave up understanding and just skipped to the end. I don't know if there could be a better outcome for the city, but I'm not willing to find it.
    I'd still recommend checking this game out, but if you want Futa NTR, you will be dissapointed, which is a subjective matter, but the capital is, I'm pretty sure, objectively bad.
  13. 1.00 star(s)

    sunaboz

    Interesting premise with very poor execution and barely any content. What's worse, the game tries to cater to totally opposite target groups adding lots of homosexual content that's often hard to ignore. Thanks to that we're getting very few scenes that would interest either group each update, although even when combined the render count is pathetic. The artwork is nice in general but sex scenes are underwhelming since they comprise of few images only and the gameplay doesn't compensate for that.

    Ah, yes, the gameplay. It's boring and annoying and the results are random so it encourages to save scum and reload for best results since the exact same path may be our death as well as a road to wealth depending what we will roll.

    What's maybe the worst though is that the game is one big, slippery slope. It starts good and interesting and then it's just worse and worse.

    Pros:
    +Art

    Cons:
    - While art is good there's not much of it here and it has fetishes for opposite groups which makes it a game for no one.
    - Boring and short sex scenes
    - Gameplay is atrocious and encourages save scumming
    - With each update it's becoming worse not better
  14. 4.00 star(s)

    Deleted member 4620010

    Version 0.3.07c (September 2022)

    Summary


    Amazing adult game with unique story, great art and interesting game mechanics. Reason for 4 starts instead of 5 is that at some point it becomes very repetitive and basically the game is just throwing sex content at you.

    Game's weak points

    To me it feels like the game developers had grand plans in mind for this game, but at some point it became clear that it makes more sense to just please Patreons with steady sex content updates instead of actually polishing the game mechanics. Can't blame them, most adult games end up like that.

    There is a lot of content and the game starts out strong. But at some point you see a pattern where the game introduces story to you just in order for player to get the sex scenes. It is questionable if those choices in the story you make have any impact on the later parts of the game. My issue is that you can't tell what impact the choice will have or if it will have any impact at all. So is the player actually in control of the story? The game throws some odd curveballs with the story sometimes and it is very immersion breaking. For example:

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    I really wish the game would receive more polish. There are lots of game mechanics that are really neglected. The story should as a whole make more sense instead of just introducing new story and characters to add sex content.
  15. 5.00 star(s)

    sards

    Game with lots of potential. Its actually quite interesting and looks like it will be actually fun to play for those that like homm series etc. There is plenty of content and multiple choices makes me want to play again but with different choices. Over all 10/10 for now.
  16. 5.00 star(s)

    kukaporn

    I think this is the most quality game I have played. Unique game, a lot of content. graphics are not that great but the writing is excellent.
    I wish i hadn't given 5/5 ratings for multiple other games because this is 1 step above everything. it's not perfect, but if there is a game worthy of being a 10/10 then this is it.

    fappable 10/10.
    story 9/10
    H-art 10/10
    H scenes animation (nearly nonexistent, 1-3frames changing occasionally)

    you can even be forced to suck cock as a male... there are futas as well, it has fun for every taste.
  17. 5.00 star(s)

    xsssssssss

    The story is really coming together now. Definitely feels like a proper RPG. Great cast and feel there's been a lot of fleshing out of the character arcs vs the first time i played. Area i'd like more focus is Jezera/Rowan where it needs to move on from tension/teasing imo.

    Not normally a huge fan of dual protagonists but feel it's done quite well here.

    There a wide array of kinks. Personally not into NTR (especially) but it is easily avoidable by your choices.
  18. 5.00 star(s)

    der.skrap

    By and large the most ambitious H-game I've come a cross on this page and else where. It's simply immense. Moreover, it's an *actual* game, you can't just wank at it and be happy, need to actually deliver sound strategies and shit. The worlds first ever grand strategy porn game?! This is it folks, the Civilization of porn games.

    All the above being said, the game contains some bugs, and it's still rough around the edges. Some thorough spring cleaning will be needed at some point. And a tutorial wouldn't hurt. I dearly hope this game claims the potential that it has!

    Also probably useful information: all futa / gay / NTR scenes seems to be optional for those that want to avoid them.
  19. 2.00 star(s)

    cassianandorknoll

    Wasted Potential

    I've been recommended this game several times over the years and I decided to check it out after being directed to this website. The game looks great. The artwork is the best I've ever seen in a smut game. The rest is junk. The writing is terrible and the gameplay is an afterthought.

    The premise is simple, good people turning bad, but the execution is lazy and stupid. At the crux of the problem is an identity crisis. The main character is a supposed to be a hardened, cunning, warrior badass. A warrior badass wouldn't become a groveling, whimpering, servant of the people who kidnapped his main squeeze. The convoluted idea is that the demons who kidnapped the hero's wife are too powerful to be defeated but so weak that they desperately need his help.

    This presents a litany of questions such as:
    why did the cunning hero decide the best course of action was to seek out a demon stronghold without any help whatsoever
    why would someone familiar with demons think they could be trusted
    why is our demon conquering hero so easily dominated by demons in combat

    The writers provide no good answers and it just gets worse from there. Characters are presented as omnipotent to incompetent; sometimes in the same scene. This game is clearly not written by native english speakers and the translation is horrific; at some points it reads like complete gibberish.
    Filler text bloats the already screwed up story. Eventually you hold the skip button down hoping that some sexy art will pop up in the next minute or five because you realize that choices in this game really don't matter.

    The developers need to decide if this is a visual novel or not. Given their incompetence I highly suggest the former. At the start the player is presented with a timer and an objective. Effectively zero direction is given on how to complete this objective. To be clear, there are instructions, but the instructions are written worse than the story and are better off ignored. The player is presented with many choices on how to proceed. All of these choices are red herrings save one. Once you figure out the correct choice your progression is up to chance. Yes, a random roll of the dice decides whether you beat the timer or not. Unlucky? Reload and try, try, try again. That's it. That's the extent of the "gameplay."

    The artwork is great. If this were a visual novel I would rate it higher. But it's a visual novel trying and failing miserably at being something more.

    One small addition I came across just recently. Apparently this game has been in development for 8 FUCKING YEARS! This is a wretched amount of effort from the developers.
  20. 4.00 star(s)

    Exotic_Otterq

    I really love parts of this game. I wish I could love all of it.

    The game has tons of content, but it can be pretty hard to figure out where the content you actually want to experience is in the game. I'm not a fan of everything in Seeds of Chaos and, frankly, the tone flip-flops from devastatingly grim to uncomfortably sexual at the drop of a hat. You can tell this game has multiple writers. Some of these writers are much more skilled than others, with some being able to handle characters they're not in charge of with tact and others pushing them out of character with the first word they write of them. Different writers handle violence differently, too. Under certain ones, any violence is handled as grim and dangerous, where others seemingly ignore the consequences of possible battles to the death. Part of this might be due to the way events can be triggered in whatever order one wants, with a character that was just beat to a pulp having to be able to pop up, unhurt, for the next scene. Of note is a scene where a minotaur turns one of the main demons into a mess of broken bones and blood, but then he was completely fine for the next scene where he kept seducing the female protagonist.

    The cheating or cuckoldry content causes quite a contention with most people, but it's completely avoidable if you're not into it. As someone who is drawn to that sort of content, I feel it's watered down and sequestered away to try and please an audience that doesn't like it. The focus jitters all over like a sniper who just did ten rails of crack. I wish the game focused in on the fetishes it ostensibly was made to explore, but it feels like they have put far too much effort into catering to everyone. In addition, the lack of consequences to the various scenes adds to this problem. The story plays up that this is a dangerous dark fantasy world... with only characters that aren't important to the story having consequences. I realize the amount of writing that would be required would be prohibitively large for a small team, but maybe the team should have concentrated on the core rather than just kinda letting it wander about with side plots and characters that don't connect to the main story. At this point, it's not like they can go back and redo things, though.

    The exploration part of the game really doesn't serve the rest of it well. Sure, it adds to the feel of the world, but, really, the best parts of the game are the protagonists interacting with other characters through the end-of-week scenes. The orc camp is the only part that competes with that, and, honestly, you could scrape everything about the exploration out of the game and make it a better experience. I would rather just play this as a typical branching-paths VN rather than what it is.

    Hopefully the promised "Act 2" coming in the future tightens up the experience, drops the frivolities, and adds more consequence to the scenes. Only time will tell.