Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.11a Patreon] [Vénus Noire]

[Dragul17]

What happened to the Andras sex scene at the beginning? It's been cut out

 

[fromjacktosophia]

Am I the only one who realizes Alexia is trans? She needs fertility treatments, Rowan knew she wasn't fertile before he married her (something he could only have known if she was trans), she's clearly used to having a penis, she's much bigger than Rowan in the childhood flashbacks, various characters allude to her previous gender (too many to mention really). How come I'm the only one who picked up on this?

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

Am I the only one who realizes Alexia is trans? She needs fertility treatments, Rowan knew she wasn't fertile before he married her (something he could only have known if she was trans), she's clearly used to having a penis, she's much bigger than Rowan in the childhood flashbacks, various characters allude to her previous gender (too many to mention really). How come I'm the only one who picked up on this?

Wait what?....

 

[Deleted member 3378174]

Am I the only one who realizes Alexia is trans? She needs fertility treatments, Rowan knew she wasn't fertile before he married her (something he could only have known if she was trans), she's clearly used to having a penis, she's much bigger than Rowan in the childhood flashbacks, various characters allude to her previous gender (too many to mention really). How come I'm the only one who picked up on this?

Do I need to pull this one out...

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

Am I the only one who realizes Alexia is trans? She needs fertility treatments, Rowan knew she wasn't fertile before he married her (something he could only have known if she was trans), she's clearly used to having a penis, she's much bigger than Rowan in the childhood flashbacks, various characters allude to her previous gender (too many to mention really). How come I'm the only one who picked up on this?

While I enjoy theory crafting and I'm open to hear your further arguments I'm not seeing it myself. For one, according to Nasim our resident transmutation expert, it would take a powerful magic user a great deal of time and magical expenditure to permanently change someone's gender. It is unlikely that a peasant family could have anything to offer a magic user powerful enough enough to invest the effort. Not to mention something like that would surely go against Solansia's teachings and result in a fair amount of corruption in the target.

As for knowing that she is infertile because she is trans, if Alexia and Rowan were aware of that then why would they have been actively trying for the past 8 years? You'll need to point out the scene where Rowan says he knew before they got married that she was infertile as I don't remember coming across a scene like that. Personally, I've long held that is is just as likely that Rowan is the one that is infertile. In medieval times it was pretty common the lay the blame for conception problems at the woman's feet. ("Woe is me, I've had seven wives and each of them was barren, what are the odds.") However if we do assume that Rowan knew before hand I would imagine that something akin to medical diagnostic magic would be something much more accessible than permanent gender reassignment magic.

I would also argue that she clearly isn't used to having a penis as she during her futa scenes she marvels at it and expresses surprise as to what it is like.

As for the size differences in flash back scenes, I would first point out that as much as I love the art in this game the proportions of the character are not exactly super consistent. But assuming you are referring to this scene then Rowan is certainly taller. I can see how you would make the mistake however as the differing head to body ratios would imply that Rowan is shorter. But if you measure each character out Rowan is taller.

As for references to her previous gender I can't think of any, so if you can find a few of them I'd be interesting in having them pointed out.

I'm all for having a trans character (male or female) in the game, but I'm just not seeing it here. Maybe they will add someone in the next arc.

 

[HentaiGamerN00b]

While I enjoy theory crafting and I'm open to hear your further arguments I'm not seeing it myself. For one, according to Nasim our resident transmutation expert, it would take a powerful magic user a great deal of time and magical expenditure to permanently change someone's gender. It is unlikely that a peasant family could have anything to offer a magic user powerful enough enough to invest the effort. Not to mention something like that would surely go against Solansia's teachings and result in a fair amount of corruption in the target.

As for knowing that she is infertile because she is trans, if Alexia and Rowan were aware of that then why would they have been actively trying for the past 8 years? You'll need to point out the scene where Rowan says he knew before they got married that she was infertile as I don't remember coming across a scene like that. Personally, I've long held that is is just as likely that Rowan is the one that is infertile. In medieval times it was pretty common the lay the blame for conception problems at the woman's feet. ("Woe is me, I've had seven wives and each of them was barren, what are the odds.") However if we do assume that Rowan knew before hand I would imagine that something akin to medical diagnostic magic would be something much more accessible than permanent gender reassignment magic.

I would also argue that she clearly isn't used to having a penis as she during her futa scenes she marvels at it and expresses surprise as to what it is like.

As for the size differences in flash back scenes, I would first point out that as much as I love the art in this game the proportions of the character are not exactly super consistent. But assuming you are referring to this scene View attachment 1444608 then Rowan is certainly taller. I can see how you would make the mistake however as the differing head to body ratios would imply that Rowan is shorter. But if you measure each character out Rowan is taller.

As for references to her previous gender I can't think of any, so if you can find a few of them I'd be interesting in having them pointed out.

I'm all for having a trans character (male or female) in the game, but I'm just not seeing it here. Maybe they will add someone in the next arc.

There is a character named Ryleah which is an Incubus who kill a comrade in Dark Sanctum. By choice of Rowan you can protect him and he in return will become in your eyes and ears in there in secret; you can select from protecting making him being still Incubus or change his gender, if you select to protect him changing his gender he becomes into a Succubus. The last option is to reveal his mess to X'Zaratl which makes you loose a potential ally in the Dark Sanctum. That's trans-something... Need more?.

 

[gamingdevil800]

Do I need to pull this one out...

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I find it ironic that jack is in that guys username "fromsimplejacktosophia"

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

There is a character named Ryleah which is an Incubus who kill a comrade in Dark Sanctum. By choice of Rowan you can protect him and he in return will become in your eyes and ears in there in secret; you can select from protecting making him being still Incubus or change his gender, if you select to protect him changing his gender he becomes into a Succubus. The last option is to reveal his mess to X'Zaratl which makes you loose a potential ally in the Dark Sanctum. That's trans-something... Need more?.

Ah yes the "no homo" option. Yeah I did briefly consider that scene, but I wouldn't consider Ryleah to be trans, I would argue that cubi in general are at most gender fluid. Cubi don't have to feel like one gender trapped in the other's body because they can just change when ever they feel like. Of course whether it they can change indefinitely or if it is a temporary change we don't know. Regardless I doubt Ryleah identified as a girl much more that they had before they transformed. I wouldn't be surprised if Ryleah changed back shortly after Rowan left.

I would say that for a character to qualify as trans they would need to be one gender, but identify as the other. The actual transition isn't what makes a person trans, it is the identifying as a gender different from their birth gender. Of course as we established actually transitioning in this world would be a very difficult undertaking at best, at least until Nasim gets his transmutation chamber fully up and running (a possible plot point for the hypothetical character). Due to that difficultly, I imagine that such a character would be a crossdresser, that desperately wished they could be more.

On a separate note, I image that most the time when people want a certain type of character added to the game, they are hoping for more than a minor one off character (Ryleah is currently a one-off but may be more important later, we'll see). That why I said maybe in the next act, because I doubt the creators will be adding any new major character in the current act. I'm not necessarily asking them to to create such a character, as I'm sure they already have plans for the future, but if they did add such a character I would be happy to see it.

 

[drmanhatan]

Is it possible to do a NTR-only run of this game

 

[Bulldozer47]

The game is just ending on week 3, what to do?

 

[Dragul17]

The game is just ending on week 3, what to do?

conquer the town directly north of the portal. You must be exploring elsewhere causing you to miss it thus failing the quest

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

Is it possible to do a NTR-only run of this game

Each sex scene is optional, and the game does a pretty good job at telegraphing them. It would be pretty simple then to pass over any marital relations and only accept extra marital affairs for either or both Rowan and Alexia.

You can make Rowan asexual while making Alexia the castle slut if you want. You could make Alexia the faithful wife while Rowan is out screwing half the kingdom. You could make Rowan gay and have Alexia fill her needs elsewhere. You could have both Rowan and Alexia remain exclusively faithful to each other. Or you can have everyone fuck everyone else at every opportunity. You could make either of them mostly faithful, but there is one person thy can't resist. As well as many other combinations. In a way, the choices you make about which sex scenes to pursue end up telling their own story.

 

[Oriandu]

Am I the only one who realizes Alexia is trans? She needs fertility treatments, Rowan knew she wasn't fertile before he married her (something he could only have known if she was trans), she's clearly used to having a penis, she's much bigger than Rowan in the childhood flashbacks, various characters allude to her previous gender (too many to mention really). How come I'm the only one who picked up on this?

...Uhhh... what? Being infertile does not mean she used to be a man, there are literally scenes where she's all "Holy shit I've got a dick due to magic... I wonder what it's like?" and then goes absolutely berserk about it, kids mature at different rates, and no one implies she used to be a man. Y'all are either trolling or have a very active imagination.

 

[T51bwinterized]

Alexia and Rowan were both designed with a level of variance to them. We have, to my knowledge, never put into the game anything that would explicitly hint that Alexia is trans. But, we haven't put a lot into the game that would deny it either. Which means it fits into the range of possible traits that Alexia or Rowan may have. This doesn't rise to the standard of inclusion, obviously. But, it also does preclude that kind of theory either, especially if applied to their specific game.

 

[Sain]

Does anyone know how to get the gay event involving Rowan taking a blonde guy in a bath?

I'm pretty sure I've run into most of the gay scenes in the game: Greyhide events, the Andras / Draith ones, Kethar from the lost tribes map event, the incubus Dazzanath from an abbey event, Qais from the adventuring party, and the guy that Cla-Min brings to you. (If I'm missing any, please let me know.)

 

[Rein]

Does anyone know how to get the gay event involving Rowan taking a blonde guy in a bath?

I'm pretty sure I've run into most of the gay scenes in the game: Greyhide events, the Andras / Draith ones, Kethar from the lost tribes map event, the incubus Dazzanath from an abbey event, Qais from the adventuring party, and the guy that Cla-Min brings to you. (If I'm missing any, please let me know.)

You meet him in rastedel near the end of the plotline.

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

Does anyone know how to get the gay event involving Rowan taking a blonde guy in a bath?

I'm pretty sure I've run into most of the gay scenes in the game: Greyhide events, the Andras / Draith ones, Kethar from the lost tribes map event, the incubus Dazzanath from an abbey event, Qais from the adventuring party, and the guy that Cla-Min brings to you. (If I'm missing any, please let me know.)

The blond guy is the captain of the guard in Rastedel, you meet him while helping the twins take the city near the end. Spend time helping him out, and after you help him train the troops you have to choice to fuck him or spar with him

 

[fromjacktosophia]

anything that trespasses against my bigoted worldview is weak bait. so weak that I immediately render a seething response.

 

[HentaiGamerN00b]

Each sex scene is optional, and the game does a pretty good job at telegraphing them. It would be pretty simple then to pass over any marital relations and only accept extra marital affairs for either or both Rowan and Alexia.

You can make Rowan asexual while making Alexia the castle slut if you want. You could make Alexia the faithful wife while Rowan is out screwing half the kingdom. You could make Rowan gay and have Alexia fill her needs elsewhere. You could have both Rowan and Alexia remain exclusively faithful to each other. Or you can have everyone fuck everyone else at every opportunity. You could make either of them mostly faithful, but there is one person thy can't resist. As well as many other combinations. In a way, the choices you make about which sex scenes to pursue end up telling their own story.

Uhmm... Not exactly optional... when the twins got Rowan in the first place he can't deny :v

 

[rivon]

When trap lay a trap to trap people in to thinking Alexia is a trap.
I see.