Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.14] [Vénus Noire]

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Chakas

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>>>>I<<<<< think that it makes for a better story (more drama and more options) if she loves her husband but is also kinda of a hoe, same with how Rowan can fuck half the kingdom and still love his wife and feels a little guilty but can't control himself....
Becoming a full hoe at the end of the path just because Andras is a good fuck is kinda....cliche.


A good end for her path should be something like:
-Alexia and Rowan good relationship, no NTR = lovely couple she stay true to herself and help Rowan achieve whatever he want while trying help him not stray from goodness

-Alexia and Rowan good relationship, NTR = Lovely couple, corrupted so fucks behind his back, still want to help her husband more but now doesn't care if he is good or not, might even corrupt him

-Alexia and Rowan bad relationship, no NTR = meh, Alexia sad bla bla bla also depends on how corrupted her husband is but i don't see a good Rowan mistreating his wife.

-Alexia and Rowan bad relationship, NTR = don't respect her husband, corrupted, will become twin pawn, try to corrupt husband

See how this kind of drama also set up more drama for future Arcs while making Alexia a relevant character?

ps.: just having a conversation, i don't want to force my ideas or shit talk the game, I already love the game for what it is.
 
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Chakas

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Rein said:
Everyone chill, I have a concept of a plan.
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“People keep asking me, ‘Do you have a plan?’ And I say, absolutely. I have a concept of a plan. A beautiful concept. Some say it’s the greatest concept ever conceived. Is it written down? Not yet. But it’s very strong. Very powerful. Everyone agrees. The details? We’re working on them. Tremendous things are coming. Believe me.”

 
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I just wanted to thank the person who mentioned the possibility of Alexia leaving Andras.
I just saw that scene and I thought it was amazing.
But now I need to play the game again just to see Alexia's confession to Rowan.
 
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Chakas said:
>>>>I<<<<< think that it makes for a better story (more drama and more options) if she loves her husband but is also kinda of a hoe, same with how Rowan can fuck half the kingdom and still love his wife and feels a little guilty but can't control himself....
Becoming a full hoe at the end of the path just because Andras is a good fuck is kinda....cliche.


A good end for her path should be something like:
-Alexia and Rowan good relationship, no NTR = lovely couple she stay true to herself and help Rowan achieve whatever he want while trying help him not stray from goodness

-Alexia and Rowan good relationship, NTR = Lovely couple, corrupted so fucks behind his back, still want to help her husband more but now doesn't care if he is good or not, might even corrupt him

-Alexia and Rowan bad relationship, no NTR = meh, Alexia sad bla bla bla also depends on how corrupted her husband is but i don't see a good Rowan mistreating his wife.

-Alexia and Rowan bad relationship, NTR = don't respect her husband, corrupted, will become twin pawn, try to corrupt husband

See how this kind of drama also set up more drama for future Arcs while making Alexia a relevant character?

ps.: just having a conversation, i don't want to force my ideas or shit talk the game, I already love the game for what it is.
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Lucky for you that is entirely an option.

Alexia can have lots of set with lots of people. Andras, Jezera, Greyhide the Minotaur, X’Zaratl the futa, Sil the fish man, Mary the lesbian maid, Luriel Rowan's elf secretary, some random succubi, a couple of driders, a tentacle monster, gang-banged by goblins, give a hand job to an orc, and probably at least a couple that I'm forgetting, ALL while still having a positive relationship with Rowan.

Alexia can be the biggest slut in the castle and still love her husband more than anything else in the world.

Chakas said:
So, can I see the full NTR path scenes and Alexia still love more her husband in the end? Even if she also like Andras.

If the answer is "no" then maybe you can see our point.
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See, here is the problem.
The are different types of NTR.There is lite NTR (or more accurately just garden variety cheating) where one partner is being unfaithful, ussually without the other partner's knowlege. In this case the cheating party, while unfaithful still sees themselves as primarily being in a relationship with their partner.

Then there is hard NTR (the more traditional usage of NTR) which to refers to one partner (usually the female) being stolen from their partner by another. Usually this results in the end of the relationship, but even if the relationships continued, they no longer see that relationship as their primary relationship. Instead their primary loyalty now belongs to the one that stole them away.

Andras' "official" NTR path is hard NTR (I would say that Jezera's NTR path is also hard NTR, but that Jezera is more subtle about it, to the point that I don't think that Alexia is even aware that her primary loyalty had shifted). Andras' NTR path is an arc in which Andras steals Alexia away from Rowan completely. So, no. you cannot reach the end of the story line in which Rowan's wife is stolen from him in every way that matters, and still have her being ultimately loyal to Rowan. Just like you cannot eat your cake and still have it. Those things are mutually exclusive.

That said, you can have her go 90% down that path and then have her back out and return to Rowan right before she goes through with a ceremony to officially abandon her marriage and pledge herself entirely to Andras. Afterwards you can keep having her have normal lite NTR cheating sex with Andras if you still have any of the lite NTR scenes that you haven't triggered yet.
 
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Hopefully we get an ending where theres greyhide x alexia and rowan with the elf, we are after all shaping their relationships with other people in the castle, all those dynamics and interactions would be a waste if they ended up as mere hookups and part ways eventually.
 
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Chakas said:
“People keep asking me, ‘Do you have a plan?’ And I say, absolutely. I have a concept of a plan. A beautiful concept. Some say it’s the greatest concept ever conceived. Is it written down? Not yet. But it’s very strong. Very powerful. Everyone agrees. The details? We’re working on them. Tremendous things are coming. Believe me.”
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You forgot you need two weeks to come out with your concept of a plan.
 
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Does anyone know how to get into the scene between Rowan and Jesera on the hill before the Battle of Restedell? My Rowan didn't obey her in the previous scenes, but he didn't sleep at all either. Maybe that's the issue?
 
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sin(α) said:
Copy included file (gc_gallery.rpy) to SoC /game folder.

Have you seen arrival_of_the_emmisiaries event (should happen in week 25)? heartsong_first_visit event (where you first have something sexual with Heartsong) depends on it and happens randomly.

You can. Select "Take him up on the offer"/"She seriously considered the offer" when offered (during Andras' visit to Alexia) or the scene won't trigger.
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thanks its work. full gallery
 
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Jynx_lucky_j said:
I see plenty of people complaining that Alexia has become Andras’ slut already at the end of act 1 and that it feels too much too soon. Acting like it's just something that randomly happens rather than something the player has to actively pursue.

You have to choose to have Alexia make choices that make her kind of a bitch that's too full of herself, make her someone who would rather turn to and rely on Andras over her husband when she has a problem, and someone who willingly and eagerly goes to Andras’ bed when invited.

If that's the sort of person you've chosen for her to be, how are you surprised that she ends up as Andras’ personal slut? That's just the character you've chosen for her to be. You've already decided that she has devalued her husband and her marriage, and that she would rather deal with Andras than her husband.

If you feel like it's still too soon in the story for her to be like that, then just don't choose those choices. There are plenty of Alexia x Andras scenes in which she is reluctant but can't help but enjoy herself. If you want a slow burn, stick to those scenes, and wait till act 2 or 3 to have her take up an NTR route. The game is just reflecting the choices that you made for the character.
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What does any of that have to do with the basic question of why? It being optional, it being something you have to work for, it being choice based. Is irrelevant to what is being said. Andras and Alexia having a full arc within the 1st game of 3, is an odd choice however you slice it. That story motivation for the MC, the wife, can be fully flipped. That has to be taken into account for the sequels. And people are left wondering how that is going to play out. Where do things go once that carrot on the stick has been removed. Nobody would be talking about this if they knew or had a hint. But all they can do is speculate and at the rate of things. Speculate for a very long time, after already having speculated for a time..... I mean.... unless somebody out there wanna spill some secrets.

Literally 3 of the 4 comments you quoted. Main focus is on the when, not the how, or the fact that it happens. I mean I'm not going to see it either way. Because that setup ain't my cup of tea. But even I find the idea of it being an option so early a weird one, even if it has little to do with me.
 
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