Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.06] [Vénus Noire]

[DarkDank]

Ah yes- because a Rowan who has Hel in his room every night won't start to wonder where the fuck Hel went after she spends weeks in the Wulump dungeon getting raped and primed for Andras to rape her like he raped Alexia after she spent weeks in the Wulump dungeon getting raped by the Wulump.

Hopefully they keep the Cuck/Rape and Rowan/Romance paths of Hel exclusive from each-other.

Alexia's content is already annoying enough because of it. Hate for the good side of Hel's good content to start looking like that too.

Two binary paths is much cleaner and more enjoyable.

Rowan isn't at home every night. You know, the whole adventuring for a week at a time part of the game?
Besides, it's not even binary already.
Jezera has Helayana bodyguard whilst she fucks random women, knowing the ring is making Helayna horny as fuck witnessing it.

 

[monk_56]

Rowan isn't at home every night. You know, the whole adventuring for a week at a time part of the game?
Besides, it's not even binary already.
Jezera has Helayana bodyguard whilst she fucks random women, knowing the ring is making Helayna horny as fuck witnessing it.

Do you even read the plot bro? Hel isn't body-guarding Jezera; she went there to ask to get the ring removed.

That side of the plot is about her resisting the ring's effects not succumbing to it.

Keep it Binary- we don't need cuck plots on both sides of her narrative Maybe she can get raped by the Wulump on the other side of her path for those of you who like rape plots.

 

[HentaiGamerN00b]

They are not allowed on Patreon so it is not even theoretically possible.
Patreon lash out even on much less controversial kinks.

Erotic hypnosis was banned because it demonstrated a power dynamic in which someone did not have the power to say no, and Patreon does not allow for anything non-consensual. Body transformation was banned because it demonstrated someone being forced to change their body for someone.
Any kink that can be considered violent, such as the sadism and masochism dynamic depicted in BDSM.
This also create self censorship when writer constantly has thoughts like : "did i cross the line here or im still ok? better not risk it."

The only reason they stay on patreon is because they think they will get the most money.
Sadly that also means writers will have less creative freedom and we in the end less refined content.

Patreon...

 

[Rivina]

Patreon...
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Yup. My face when they nuked Erotic Hypnosis:

 

[Lolicon Kami]

An actually evil or at least power hungry Rowan is ten times scarier than the twins. The only times he does dumb stuff is when I make him do it because I think its funny/wanna see what happens.

Which is why I hope that one day, Rowan will have the option to execute Andras and make Jezera his concubine...

And when that day comes, hopefully Rowan will be able to build a sexy, smutty (but not rapey) sex utopia

 

[DarkDank]

Do you even read the plot bro? Hel isn't body-guarding Jezera; she went there to ask to get the ring removed.

That side of the plot is about her resisting the ring's effects not succumbing to it.

Keep it Binary- we don't need cuck plots on both sides of her narrative Maybe she can get raped by the Wulump on the other side of her path for those of you who like rape plots.

I was mostly looking at internal consistency of the plot. The twins trying is not the same as them succeeding. I felt it awkward they didn't try until Winter clarified.
And for my part, I'm not a fan of Andras content really.
Jezera though, hot demon purple ass, I am. Specifically because I believe at the end of that route, you'll have Rowan fucking both Jezera along with Alexia, and whomever else as the dominant.
And lesbian sex is hot.

 

[Zero1994]

Which is why I hope that one day, Rowan will have the option to execute Andras and make Jezera his concubine...

And when that day comes, hopefully Rowan will be able to build a sexy, smutty (but not rapey) sex utopia
[/COTIZAR]

After a moment of carelessness, Jezera tears off his penis and balls from a modisco while teaching him intrigues and how to have no mercy for not eliminating the most dangerous twin.

Greetings

 

[monk_56]

I was mostly looking at internal consistency of the plot. The twins trying is not the same as them succeeding. I felt it awkward they didn't try until Winter clarified.
And for my part, I'm not a fan of Andras content really.
Jezera though, hot demon purple ass, I am. Specifically because I believe at the end of that route, you'll have Rowan fucking both Jezera along with Alexia, and whomever else as the dominant.
And lesbian sex is hot.

I see what you mean in regards to internal consistency. The bit about the Twins being opportunists is absolutely true. The specific example of the Wulump just woundn't translate well into Hel's plot due to its timing considerations (also it'd be lame to have that sort of crap on the Romance pathing).

Many years in the future perhaps we will get that sort of content with Jezera. It was Hel's dream to watch Jez get dommed by Rowan. Hel absolutely hates Jez- for good reasons.

Les content is super hot- when it is a couple, poly, or open relationship and consenting.

 

[Skantarios]

Specifically because I believe at the end of that route, you'll have Rowan fucking both Jezera along with Alexia, and whomever else as the dominant.

Jezera only enters sexual situations where she's dominant. Even in a traditionally submissive position she has all the control, topping from the bottom as it were.

The only way we have a threesome is where Jez has the couple completely under her spell. You are either under her or you kill her. Her nature won't allow for anything else. She might play the part of the content mistress and act totally redeemed for a couple of years just waiting for the opportunity to take revenge. Rowan will regret not killing her.

That said Jezera wants both of them and did make a comment to the effect of wanting one sucking on each tit. I might be misremembering but she 100% wants both as her pets.

And lesbian sex is hot.

Ok. Would you ever be happy with a female character being straight or must they be perpetually tempted by another woman for you to be satisfied with the storyline direction?

I am not bashing you and don't want this to come out as if I am. I want to know, I am honestly happy with a girl being totally straight or totally gay because it feels like in every porn game with more than one love interest 90% of girls are bisexual and honestly I find it trite at this point. They either start liking women so the MC doesn't have to choose between love interests or they were gay and the MC is such a James Bond level of smoldering seduction that they turned bi just for him.

I guess I'm saying I like my female characters to be defined and not upend their entire personalities/lives/sexuality for whatever is convenient or titillating for the MC (or even me the player).

 

[Rivina]

The only way we have a threesome is where Jez has the couple completely under her spell. You are either under her or you kill her. Her nature won't allow for anything else. She might play the part of the content mistress and act totally redeemed for a couple of years just waiting for the opportunity to take revenge. Rowan will regret not killing her.

That's why you don't invite her into bed until you've completely brain-burned her into having no thoughts other than sex and not randomly emptying her bowels. She wont be safe till she's functionally retarded.

 

[Skantarios]

She wont be safe till she's functionally retarded.

You know what's even safer? Killed with a hammer covered in nails wrapped in barbed wire soaked in melted glass and riddled with lava until she's paste and then keep going until she is ashes. Then Rowan pisses on it.

For real though I'm sure there will be a future option of a power up to make a tyrant/Demigod version of Rowan that can overtake and, if he chooses so, sexually enslave the twins. I don't see any version of Rowan that isn't pure dictatorial evil effectively dominating them though. Even variations of ruthless Rowan would probably go for the certainty of death.

 

[BigStuffedTiger]

Jezera only enters sexual situations where she's dominant. Even in a traditionally submissive position she has all the control, topping from the bottom as it were.

The only way we have a threesome is where Jez has the couple completely under her spell. You are either under her or you kill her. Her nature won't allow for anything else. She might play the part of the content mistress and act totally redeemed for a couple of years just waiting for the opportunity to take revenge. Rowan will regret not killing her.

While I agree that Jezera only enters into sexual situations where she's dominant, I think that's more a reaction to past mistreatment during her younger and more vulnerable days than natural inclination. Nobody will ever look down on her, mistreat her, or discard her like a piece of trash ever again. And that to her means being the dominant party. That doesn't mean she wouldn't enjoy sex as a submissive, only that she'd never consciously choose to allow it as long as she has both the power and sufficient presence of mind to prevent it. In the scene with Shaya she got so lost in pleasure she did allow Shaya to dominate her, at least until she got a hold of herself, realized what was going on, and switched positions.

 

[aaaaaaaaaaaaaacok]

They are not allowed on Patreon so it is not even theoretically possible.
Patreon lash out even on much less controversial kinks.

Erotic hypnosis was banned because it demonstrated a power dynamic in which someone did not have the power to say no, and Patreon does not allow for anything non-consensual. Body transformation was banned because it demonstrated someone being forced to change their body for someone.
Any kink that can be considered violent, such as the sadism and masochism dynamic depicted in BDSM.
This also create self censorship when writer constantly has thoughts like : "did i cross the line here or im still ok? better not risk it."

The only reason they stay on patreon is because they think they will get the most money.
Sadly that also means writers will have less creative freedom and we in the end less refined content.

heh honestly that's not my problem. I just like game devs that are rebel and won't just nod to everything. There're lots of things on patreon with lolishota stuffs. There're lots of with rape and stuffs. They also have the choice of switching to subscribestar even. But again their choice, I won't push anything, just know that I don't place my respect to game devs that are basically lapdogs to puritans and ultimately this game is just not for me.

 

[Skantarios]

I think that's more a reaction to past mistreatment during her younger and more vulnerable days than natural inclination.

Dominating is as natural as breathing for her. I can easily argue she flipped positions with Shaya because she was done with rewarding her loyal servant and had to remind her who wears the pants.

The woman is a literal sex demon. Until I see some very compelling flashbacks pointing to the contrary I will assume she is being true to her nature. She doesn't need a tragic backstory to shape and justify her impulses. I don't think anything happened to her. SHE happened.

 

[NewTricks]

So why is it that Rowan just calls Dibs on Helayna the twins back off, but don't back off his WIFE.
You'd think those dibs would be implied lol.

To my mind, they don't care about the dibs or Helayna. Tossing him Helayna is actually a tool to drive a wedge between him and his wife. For some reason, they are unusually invested in ruining that relationship even though it is literally the only thing keeping him there working for them. It is another indication to me that their irrational sadism far outstrips even their own self-interest.

 

[BigStuffedTiger]

Dominating is as natural as breathing for her. I can easily argue she flipped positions with Shaya because she was done with rewarding her loyal servant and had to remind her who wears the pants.

Jez has made enough comments about her brothel days and how men need to be handled in order for women to be avoid being mistreated that I consider it more likely that her dominance is a form of armor and shield than any sort of hard-wiring.

The woman is a literal sex demon. Until I see some very compelling flashbacks pointing to the contrary I will assume she is being true to her nature. She doesn't need a tragic backstory to shape and justify her impulses. I don't think anything happened to her. SHE happened.

Her nature is that of a hedonist. I doubt that she'd limit herself to dominance if she didn't think submission was dangerous to her own well-being.

 

[Skantarios]

Jez has made enough comments about her brothel days and how men need to be handled in order for women to be avoid being mistreated that I consider it more likely that her dominance is a form of armor and shield than any sort of hard-wiring.

That is incredibly generous and a lot of reading into a offhand comment. It is nothing any other ruthless madame wouldn't say, they also don't want their girls bruised up, bad for business.. Also don't you think its strange the amount of glee she takes in dominating and hurting others including women for someone with such benevolent beginnings?

And as for those beginnings I will say again: Sex Demon. Born from the literal seed of Satan.

She doesn't do what she does because she's scared of getting hurt (she can't really be hurt be mundane means) she does it because she likes it.

Her nature is that of a hedonist

A dominant one yes. Indulging in pleasure doesn't mean you enjoy it equally in every form. A hedonistic gay man isn't going to sleep with women for example. Its her nature to dominate and manipulate therefore it is what gives her the most pleasure since its what it aligns the most with her true self.

Sid in Toy story broke toys cause he was a little asshole, not because his father was killed by a crate of toys falling on his head and now a hurt Sid seeks revenge on all of Toykind.

Again. If I am proven wrong in the future then I am. But I there is nothing in what is depicted in the game right now that doesn't mesh with what she is presented as. Not without a massive dose of good will and reaching. Honestly at this point we might as well try to redeem Andras.

 

[BigStuffedTiger]

That is incredibly generous and a lot of reading into a offhand comment. It is nothing any other ruthless madame wouldn't say, they also don't want their girls bruised up, bad for business.. Also don't you think its strange the amount of glee she takes in dominating and hurting others including women for someone with such benevolent beginnings?

I never said she didn't enjoy power differentials. I simply am not convicted that she's hardwired to be strictly dominant. I'm more inclined to see her as a switch attempting to repress her submissive side.

And as for those beginnings I will say again: Sex Demon. Born from the literal seed of Satan.

She doesn't do what she does because she's scared of getting hurt (she can't really be hurt be mundane means) she does it because she likes it.

I don't disagree with this statement. That said, I think you missed some of the nuance in my previous posts.

A dominant one yes. Indulging in pleasure doesn't mean you enjoy it equally in every form. A hedonistic gay man isn't going to sleep with women for example. Its her nature to dominate and manipulate therefore it is what gives her the most pleasure since its what it aligns the most with her true self.

She is very manipulative and she enjoys being dominant. No argument. But I also think there are clues that she may be repressing her submissive side.

Sid in Toy story broke toys cause he was a little asshole, not because his father was killed by a crate of toys falling on his head and now a hurt Sid seeks revenge on all of Toykind.

Again. If I am proven wrong in the future then I am. But I there is nothing in what is depicted in the game right now that doesn't mesh with what she is presented as. Not without a massive dose of good will and reaching. Honestly at this point we might as well try to redeem Andras.

I don't think there is currently enough to decide conclusively whether she's strictly a domme or a switch suppressing her sub side either way. So we can argue this all night with neither of us changing the other's mind.

 

[Skantarios]

I don't disagree with this statement. That said, I think you missed some of the nuance in my previous posts.

I did not. I just disagree with your interpretation. There is nothing to indicate she has a repressed submissive side outside of what you decide to see there. Everyone we have seen her have sex with she had control and with Rowan and Shaya even took it back mid-coitus just to show she can.

I don't think there is currently enough to decide conclusively whether she's strictly a domme or a switch suppressing her sub side either way.

Hum. I got feeling from the posts before you thought her a submissive and even kind person that was being dominant and destructive as a shield to not to be a victim anymore. That she was made evil by abuse even. It is mostly that interpretation I had issue with hence the Silence of the Lambs reference. Sometimes people are not made evil, they just are.

If your argument is that she simply might enjoy being submissive during sex in the right circumstances then we disagree a lot less than I thought. That being said everything we've seen thus far reinforces the idea she is a dominant sex demon that occasionally indulges in pretending submission just to flip and take the power away from the partner. Its an even bigger show of dominance to do so from a "submissive" position.

Its a game, but one she literally can't lose. She hasn't been vulnerable or bereft of control in a sex scene yet. The closest we get is Rowan refusing her after she shoves her tits in his face.

So we can argue this all night with neither of us changing the other's mind.

Well, after this post I think what we disagree on is fairly more minor than I thought. The argument if she is just a domne or a switch is much less earth-shatering than the one of her being a victim made into an evil sex demon that just needs some good loving hero dick to become good again.

 

[Skantarios]

It is another indication to me that their irrational sadism far outstrips even their own self-interest.

They are a blip in the radar of the realm without daddy Rowan. Surprised he can walk while carrying this whole evil empire on his back.

I hope the Twins do some really impressive and useful things the next game because as of now, they lucked into every good thing they have or were carried through it by Rowan. Have no reason to think that even now, if Rowan could get the necklaces off and disappear, this whole shebang wouldn't collapse in a week.