I guess it's by design choice you get "rewarded" by cheating, because evil is attractive right? Doing the right thing is often not the easiest, while letting go of your moral for instant gratification is simple. The start of SoC would probably be full of "traps" for Rowan and Alexia to fall in, staying faithful would probably be rewarding in the later stages of SoC.
Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.06] [Vénus Noire]
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Updates every two months is snail's pace? I'd love to see the project's you follow that update as frequently with the same quality in writing and art? I'd concede that maybe early on there was a lack of progression but we're getting Goblin plot and the Fae plot is starting. Many character arcs have already been finished and more are underway
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Yes, that is absolutely the reason why. No other reason whatsoever.
There won't be an entirely non-cheating version of trouplehood. Helayna won't stay if you don't fuck her.Yeah- that is pretty much true.
There is a tiny bit of content that is somewhat like that though. It is just often really buried under conditionals and not very exhaustive.
You get can get a really sweet Rowan x Alexia scene at the end of the entire Liurial plot if you don't sleep with Liurial at all. Have a positive Relationship with Alexia and Alexia / Liurial became friends.
That is like 12 scenes for 1 though.
There are a few scenes here or there similar to that.
In example, you cannot get the Rowan X Alexia Catacombs scene if you sleep with either Twin more than once on Alexia. But again you're trading like 250 cgs for like 10.
If you are looking at which kink is getting "rewarded" it is definitely not the faithful players. Presumably the content menu for faithful players should improve a bit as the game moves forward- but sadly most of the relationships (even the ones that can become wholesome) start with cheating, coercion rape, or drug rape.
Exceptions are:
Liurial x Rowan x Alexia
X'zaratl x Rowan x Alexia
You can start both of those without any cheating at all.
I'm interested to see if the Helenya plot-line Rework might allow for a non-cheating variant to throuple-hood. It depends largely on how(and how much) Winter touches up that initial Siege of Raeve Keep content.
I dont think Winter or Rein that petty to do something like that.
Speaking of this Helayna you mentioned will we see her this update or at least next one?
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Hey guys, I have trouble with one mission. So, Jezera warned Rowan to "bring terms of alliance to one of the chaos races of the Rosarian plane. The orcs or the goblins", because the "clock is ticking", but I'm not sure how exactly to do that. I checked the objective and quests in journal for more info, but both are empty(?).
Can anyone tell me what I have to do here?
Can anyone tell me what I have to do here?
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The game has been in development for close to 7 years. Seven. After all this time it is at version 0.3, with large part of mechanics either broken or plain missing, bugs galore and major characters lacking their arc content.
Yes, it is a very pretty game. And what writing is there, it's often good and engaging (though it begs for some editing and, most importantly, proofreading). But calling its development "snail's pace" is actually putting it gently.
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We're at like version 80 or something. The reason why it's 0.3.x is because we follow a system of systemic/localized updates. A "localized" update just adds contentto a specific game segment A major update refers to a systemic overhaul. It's not 3 out of 10 either. It just means that we've done full game overhauls twice.
Also the seven years bit is disingenuous too. We've only really had a full staff for about 4 years. In that time we've dramatically expanded content.
The scale of the game is also just WAY bigger than most games in the genre. Hundreds of CGs, perhaps more than a 1000 before Act 1 is done. Millions of words of writing.
We release MASSIVE updates to a MASSIVE game. It's going to take awhile, but to call it snails pace is to compare us to some 30 CG 200k Word Winged Cloud game. We essentially release 2-3 of those a year.
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I like this game. So much to do. I really want to see Alexia get impregnated by X'Zaratl.
Quantitatively, it's written a couple of posts above yours.
Game-wise, I can tell you that I was able to play as a "kind of closet-ish that becomes progressively bolder" gay-leaning MC and it worked very well. However, it's not the game for you if you can't stand even the occasional vision of a boob or a vagina.
Insane... Considering that Developer Team planned 3 Acts and this is just Act I finished, in this Act I main history is finished but they are adding some side quest and character development for many side characters as well, this will make a huge impact on Act II and nonetheless Act III. So yes, the better word that fits this game or at least it's overall story is insane.
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Alexia, Rowan and X'Zaratl are probably the most wholesome relationship in this game. All their scenes are so freaking amazing.
I got this error when I launched the game
Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.
While running game code:
File "game/gallery.rpy", line 489, in script
init +1 python:
File "game/gallery.rpy", line 492, in <module>
renpy.image(gal_item + " butt", im.Scale(im.Sepia(ImageReference(gal_item)), thumbnail_x, thumbnail_y))
Exception: Expected an image, but got a general displayable.
-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------
Full traceback:
File "game/gallery.rpy", line 489, in script
init +1 python:
File "D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Seeds of Chaos\renpy\ast.py", line 914, in execute
renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store)
File "D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Seeds of Chaos\renpy\python.py", line 2028, in py_exec_bytecode
exec bytecode in globals, locals
File "game/gallery.rpy", line 492, in <module>
renpy.image(gal_item + " butt", im.Scale(im.Sepia(ImageReference(gal_item)), thumbnail_x, thumbnail_y))
File "D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Seeds of Chaos\renpy\display\im.py", line 1591, in Sepia
return MatrixColor(im, matrix.saturation(0.0, desat) * matrix.tint(tint[0], tint[1], tint[2]), **properties)
File "D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Seeds of Chaos\renpy\display\im.py", line 1243, in __init__
im = image(im)
File "D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Seeds of Chaos\renpy\display\im.py", line 1740, in image
return image(arg.target, loose=loose, **properties)
File "D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Seeds of Chaos\renpy\display\im.py", line 1755, in image
raise Exception("Expected an image, but got a general displayable.")
Exception: Expected an image, but got a general displayable.
Windows-8-6.2.9200
Ren'Py 7.3.5.606
Seeds of Chaos 0.3.05
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I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on how we perceive these massive updates, and what constitutes massive, for this matter. E.g. going by patch notes for the Steam version of the game, in the last year there's been 15 events worth of content added roughly every 6 months. Now, looking at game files an event in SoC amounts to 5-7k words on average (with a few bigger outliers). So let's be generous and say that's 120k words per 6-month patch. Throw in rewrites for already produced, older stuff, and --being generous again-- yes, you might get to that 200k words per half a year total.
The catch is, all that work becomes basically unnoticeable when it's delivered spread over a dozen of different places -- "there is one more event on the map. There is one extra event with this character. There's one extra event with that character. There is one extra event in the throne room." While it may look impressive as a bullet list, especially when you know how much effort you've put into it, in practice it does nothing to alleviate the fact the game plot didn't really advance from where it was months and years ago, and most of the characters, both major and minor, including the lucky ones with that extra event(s), overall remain as unfinished as they were. And so someone who last played your game a year or more ago is going to see very little practical difference, if they can even spot the changes after all the time passed.
Put it differently -- you have currently something like 550+ event definitions in your game. That means those 30 events worth of content you've added over last year expanded your game by ~5% It's not someone else's productions but the very massiveness of your own game, that renders your "massive updates" minuscule in comparison.
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I mean at this point your just being disingenuous, to say that a regular player wouldn't notice any changes after a year of not keeping up with the game is just false. That may be the case for you, but that doesn't apply to everyone. I also don't see how the writers could do any better to get more content into each release, the amount we get is more than enough for a game that releases every two months? The pace it's going at is very steady and consistent and truly I think that's what really matters, as Winter said the scale of this game is massive and it's quality trumps a majority of the other games on the site.