jim_dark

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i seem to be stuck, i cannot trigger the attack on rastedel , did the orcs in the north and did the goblins in the south.
 

Orichan

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Is a walkthrough needed to play the game, or are the different path easy/intuitive enough ? Hopping back and forth from the walkthrough/game is kind of annoying but it'd be a shame to miss most of the content
 

HentaiGamerN00b

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I have a pet theory that the whole thing about needing Rowan to work for them may not be the whole truth.

I think more than that want to punish the heroes that killed their father. Sure, they said they don't care...but can you really trust what a demon says? And if nothing else it would be a way of surpassing their father. It just so happens that Rowan was the only hero they could get access to, due the the way his nation tossed him aside after the war. Also since, in raw power at least, he is the weakest of the heroes they feel like they exert control over him to squeeze some extra benefit out of it as well.

For supposedly needing Rowan so badly, they don't put a lot of work into winning him over, and they are pretty quick to do away with him when he refuses to play ball or misses a deadline. It's almost like they are trying to see how far they can push him rather than trying to actively retain him.

If that is the case, cucking him would make perfect sense as about the most painful thing they could do outside of killing him. If he freaks out on them, they can just kill him, with the knowledge that they inflicted the deepest pain as they could before killing him. If he does nothing then they know he's a little bitch and they can inflict any humiliation they want on him and he'll just take it.
Well, i think we are just jumping a whole problem here, i can perfectly match with you with the "Pet Theory" as you remark, nonetheless i can't stand with the assumption that Rowan is in fact a "Hero" or some of the like, he seems too normie and too much overconfident in his storytelling and the sayings of his worth acknowledge during The Last War, but his actions before and during in Bloodmeen plus in every conquest reveals the lack of strategy.

May Da Twins want to make him suffer, after all he's responsible for their Father's Downfall but, there's a component in this game that unveil something beyond that, the problem of the mind between species... I mean, humans think in the same way as elves or orks?, all of the species in Solansia seems to have a complete different way of thinking things, Ethics, Morals, Jurisprudence... As their species are different, think different, act different and those differences could may be the whole central point of all the conflict. As we may do good to remember when it is revealed the origin of the Fae as species, Rowan mentioned that demons as well are foreigners too. So, perhaps all the species in Solansia came from other dimensions as venezuelans *i mean refugees* escaping from some sort of disaster.

Then, if they are too different it may be perfectly and normal that all of them think in different ways, as example the Cubi X'zaralt seems to be pretty interested in love but, what kind of love and moreover what X'zaralt understand as love to begin with?, as X'zaralt was preparing Alexia for Rowan, if you choose for Alexia that she wants Rowan make love to her, X'zaralt seems to make a pause, like she was thinking that there's no difference. Things can get worse if we analyze the Goblins, as one of the most acknowledge intelligent species out there, they still gather in tribes it seems, they aren't too much unified as species, and even if we think how much they can do strategically into a war or how excel they can be making business, they still betray and try to do scam and fraud when be cooperative would be a better option.

So yes, they are people but as they are too much different each other as species it may collide the way they understand in law philosophy (if i'm making myself understandable) their Natural Right. The same example as the vampire and the human in every setting, human are the cattle, so, both species are confronted in their way of thinking by nature. Then, for X'zaralt it may be possible for her that making sex is the same as love and being breed is like the major expression of that love. Think in Da Twins, they alleged that they want the better for Solansia and all of it's ppl, but think in the way of how Bloodmeen is as a place, then, ask yourself wth they understand as "good" or "the better" for Solansia?, and do it seriously, because Arzyl was literally saying that the world life was consumed by them and to balance that they can perform a ritual by offering hundreds if not thousands of lives to replenish the abuse of magic (of course, they will gonna possibly reuse the bodies for the Fae's Heretics that denies to pass for the reborn process), and Jezera was like "good, problem resolved" and i was like :FacePalm:

Gathering all what i remark before, Da Twins may not necessary think that the NTR will make you suffer, they are playing and doing normal shit to them, moreover, they could just doing it as they want others to enjoy and participate in what they do. Taking note of this critic joking comment from this pal:
What do you call it then, when orcs capture and breed women? Spreading love?
If the orks have that word in their vocabulary, the answer could be "yes" :ROFLMAO:
 
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vandal.h

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I have a pet theory that the whole thing about needing Rowan to work for them may not be the whole truth.

I think more than that want to punish the heroes that killed their father. Sure, they said they don't care...but can you really trust what a demon says? And if nothing else it would be a way of surpassing their father. It just so happens that Rowan was the only hero they could get access to, due the the way his nation tossed him aside after the war. Also since, in raw power at least, he is the weakest of the heroes they feel like they exert control over him to squeeze some extra benefit out of it as well.

For supposedly needing Rowan so badly, they don't put a lot of work into winning him over, and they are pretty quick to do away with him when he refuses to play ball or misses a deadline. It's almost like they are trying to see how far they can push him rather than trying to actively retain him.

If that is the case, cucking him would make perfect sense as about the most painful thing they could do outside of killing him. If he freaks out on them, they can just kill him, with the knowledge that they inflicted the deepest pain as they could before killing him. If he does nothing then they know he's a little bitch and they can inflict any humiliation they want on him and he'll just take it.
I mean it totally fits the twins' M.O. and limited IQ to think they don't really need Rowan when they really do. At the beginning of the game their "army" is barely enough to take over a single village let alone a fortified human city. And even then Andras is all gung ho to kill random orc tribes because he doesn't like the way they look. Without Rowan, they get curb stomped at Rastadel by the duke's forces.
 

dkatryl

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Just a note that Alexia only "goes full cumslut" when you trigger the Andras NTR event path. The two official NTR paths in the game are explicitly about Alexia being taken from Rowan. There are still a good number of Alexia x Andras scenes that are not part of the official NTR event path. And those seem to be the sort of scenes you are looking for.

The Andras NTR path is triggered by meeting the following criteria: A low relationship between Alexia and Rowan, Alexia having at least medium corruption, Andras having more influence on Alexia than Jezera, and not already being on Jezera's NTR path. If you don't meet all those criteria then you wont start the Andras NTR path.

In the event you do accidentally trigger his NTR path you have several opportunities to derail it in the first scene. When Rowan asks Alexia to deliver some orders to the orcs, don't insult the orc back, if you do insult the orc then don't turn to Andras for help after the orc almost rapes her, if you do turn to Andras for help then don't meet with him afterwards. Avoid doing any of those actions and you will derail Andras' NTR path and you will exclusively get the type of Alexia x Andras scenes you are looking for.
I am aware of what starts the full NTR path, but Im not aware of *newer* scenes that arent in service of the full NTR path.

There's the scene from the very beginning when she is first reunited with Rowan.
The scene where she turns to Andras for book research.
The scene where Andras goes to her for relief instead of a gay Rowan scene.
The bath scene.

Those are all older scenes, there longer than the full NTR branch scenes.

There's a few simply to humiliate her, such as the tavern where he pretends to be some boorish hero, and the strip naked to show the trained drider, but im not aware of any new ones in the style as the 4 listed above? :unsure:

[Edit: oh yeah, the scene after Rowan claims Helyana, where she acts out of anger/resentment/etc, and Andras exploits her emotional state. That is a good middle ground scene.
 

kaspqz

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Is it happens everytime? Walls of text i mean, i'm not reading them but when i'm checking what's new in the feed when new patch is out it's the first thing that catches my eye :D
 

ledski0606

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Holly shit. I just downloaded this and I gotta say. The art of this game is DOPE AS HELL. I've always been on the fence about this game due the multiple potags tag (not really my thing), but man oh man, how I am glad to have given it a try. Seriously, words do not make it justice. Simply amazingly depicted scenes and art style.
 
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bobi121

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I honestly can't think of a reason for Alexia to sleep with Andras let along end up with him. The guy is extremely unlikable, brutish, lacks intellect and sublety. Yeah, i know, women love bad men, but Andras is on another level of repulsive. I am not shaming this plot or the people who love this couple. I just honestly can't see it happening.
Jezeera? Yes she is manipulative and likes to dominate but she is subtle, uses her brain and has finese. Wouldn't mind making an heir with her.
I see Alexia either with Rowan or Greyhide.
 

zxombor24

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I honestly can't think of a reason for Alexia to sleep with Andras let along end up with him. The guy is extremely unlikable, brutish, lacks intellect and sublety. Yeah, i know, women love bad men, but Andras is on another level of repulsive. I am not shaming this plot or the people who love this couple. I just honestly can't see it happening.
Andras is also manipulative, but not like Jereza, he use sweet words and Alexia desire to have children to tempt her, and this is the best part, Alexia knows well what Andras is and how mreciless he is, but silce Rowan kinda neglect her she slowly started to open up, to give in to Andras

im a rotten little pervert, and i simply love these kind of corruption plots, the harder they resist the sweeter their fall is
 

vandal.h

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I honestly can't think of a reason for Alexia to sleep with Andras let along end up with him. The guy is extremely unlikable, brutish, lacks intellect and sublety. Yeah, i know, women love bad men, but Andras is on another level of repulsive. I am not shaming this plot or the people who love this couple. I just honestly can't see it happening.
Jezeera? Yes she is manipulative and likes to dominate but she is subtle, uses her brain and has finese. Wouldn't mind making an heir with her.
I see Alexia either with Rowan or Greyhide.
Yep, in my playthroughs I never do the Alexia x Andras scenes. It's a testament to the writers that they have created such a deeply unlikable antagonist.
 

Nym85

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I honestly can't think of a reason for Alexia to sleep with Andras let along end up with him. The guy is extremely unlikable, brutish, lacks intellect and sublety. Yeah, i know, women love bad men, but Andras is on another level of repulsive. I am not shaming this plot or the people who love this couple. I just honestly can't see it happening.
Jezeera? Yes she is manipulative and likes to dominate but she is subtle, uses her brain and has finese. Wouldn't mind making an heir with her.
I see Alexia either with Rowan or Greyhide.
I think you are missing the fact that both of the twins are also very attractive and very good at sex.
 

Chakas

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Andras is also manipulative, but not like Jereza, he use sweet words and Alexia desire to have children to tempt her, and this is the best part, Alexia knows well what Andras is and how mreciless he is, but silce Rowan kinda neglect her she slowly started to open up, to give in to Andras

im a rotten little pervert, and i simply love these kind of corruption plots, the harder they resist the sweeter their fall is
Yup, she knows he is bad, she knows (after rowan turn up alive) that he is a liar. But with all his work Rowan unfortunately neglect her and Andras makes her horny, she hate him for it and would never leave Rowan for him, but sometimes....

I just think it doesn't make sense for her to actually leave Rowan for Andras or become his bitch, she doesn't like him, he is evil and kind of dumb. Rowan is the perfect man for her already. It would be better for the ntr path to end with rowan either discovering it and alexa dodging the cheating claiming she did it to help him (he either let it continue or make her stop) or Rowan never finding out and she secretely keep seeing Andras while still with Rowan. Heck, she might even have Andras child and bluff about the kid skin color by saying it is a side effect from the dark magic, that would be cool.
 
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bobi121

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Yup, she knows he is bad, she knows (after rowan turn up alive) that he is a liar. But with all his work Rowan unfortunately neglect her and Andras makes her horny, she hate him for it and would never leave Rowan for him, but sometimes....

I just think it doesn't make sense for her to actually leave Rowan for Andras or become his bitch, she doesn't like him, he is evil and kind dumb. Rowan is the perfect man for her already. It would be better for the ntr path to end with rowan either discovering it and alexa dodging the cheating claiming she did it to help him (he either let it continue or make her stop) or Rowan never finding out and she secretely keep seeing Andras while still with Rowan. Heck, she might even have Andras child and bluff about the kid skin color by saying it is a side effect from the dark magic, that would be cool.
Speaking of children, any mention about when it might happen? Act 2 or 3 perhaps? Cla-Min already got pregnant from Rowan if player choose this path.
Jezeera plays hard to get...
 

vandal.h

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Yup, she knows he is bad, she knows (after rowan turn up alive) that he is a liar. But with all his work Rowan unfortunately neglect her and Andras makes her horny, she hate him for it and would never leave Rowan for him, but sometimes....

I just think it doesn't make sense for her to actually leave Rowan for Andras or become his bitch, she doesn't like him, he is evil and kind dumb. Rowan is the perfect man for her already. It would be better for the ntr path to end with rowan either discovering it and alexa dodging the cheating claiming she did it to help him (he either let it continue or make her stop) or Rowan never finding out and she secretely keep seeing Andras while still with Rowan. Heck, she might even have Andras child and bluff about the kid skin color by saying it is a side effect from the dark magic, that would be cool.
See my opinion is that cheating should have consequences, for both Rowan and Alexia. Rowan already has to torpedo his relationship with Alexia if he rescues Helyana and all the maids gossip about his sexapades in front of Alexia (constantly dropping his relationship stat) but so far no such consequences for Alexia.

In any case Alexia has already lost all feelings for Rowan on the full Andras NTR path so that ship has sailed. Also how can you claim to love someone but knowingly get them to try to raise someone else's kid? That's not love and I hope this kind of shit doesn't make it into the game.
 
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Chakas

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See my opinion is that cheating should have consequences, for both Rowan and Alexia. Rowan already has to torpedo his relationship with Alexia if he rescues Helyana and all the maids gossip about it in front of Alexia (constantly dropping his relationship stat) but so far no such consequences for Alexia.

In any case Alexia has already lost all feelings for Rowan on the full Andras NTR path so that ship has sailed. Also how can you claim to love someone but knowingly get them to try to raise someone else's kid? That's not love and I hope this kind of shit doesn't make it into the game.
You are playing a porn game about demons and dragons and getting butthurt by things that actually happens in real life? lol, she would raise the child because she loves the child, she also loves rowan sowhy not stay with him?

And from the start my point was that they handled the ntr path baddly, they started it with problably the best NTR this site has seen in a long time just for it to become the most generic shit ever.

But maybe I'm overreacting and can hope for a middle ground where we can achieve a somewhat high corruption/cheating and they remain a loving couple at the end. I do believe in fairies....

ps it's not bad, i love the game, but I came here (hehe) for good NTR.
 
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vandal.h

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You are playing a porn game about demons and dragons and getting butthurt by things that actually happens in real life? lol, she would raise the child because she loves the child, she also loves rowan sowhy not stay with him?

And from the start my point was that they handled the ntr path baddly, they started it with problably the best NTR this site has seen in a long time just for it to become the most generic shit ever.

But maybe I'm overreacting and can hope for a middle ground where we can achieve a somewhat high corruption/cheating and they remain a loving couple at the end. I do believe in fairies....

ps it's not bad, i love the game, but I came here (hehe) for good NTR.
It's not about being butthurt, its about stating a preference which is also what you are doing. The game is not about fairies and happy endings. Every choice you make as a player has consequences so it would be out of place for only Rowan to get screwed over while Alexia gets off scott free.
 

Chakas

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It's not about being butthurt, its about stating a preference which is also what you are doing. The game is not about fairies and happy endings. Every choice you make as a player has consequences so it would be out of place for only Rowan to get screwed over while Alexia gets off scott free.
I thought the cheating was enough punishment? lol
And you can have consequences that will fit better in the narrative, Alexa falling for andras and becoming a cumdump should be , like, the worst of the worst ending. Rowan is also a cheater
 
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