Jynx_lucky_j

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How do I get the Andras NTR route? (I went to him as Alexia to translate the book) also went with him in the bath (is that it?) While Alexia as a barmaid is sucking Gaston. I'm not sure this is what people meant with NTR Andras. Any help?

Also damn, black gardener guy has some powers I thought he could only make statues, turns out dude is more proficient than Nasim. Literally turned the girl into a monster sex slave, as much as I think the Wendel route would make the most sense for the hero. I think he's just gonna off himself, the ending for that Wendel route is just him being shellshocked.
(I haven't taken the copper route yet but I can imagine how long this game will take, supporting the red hair girl and the story of them leaving are two different routes which would take so much time to make.)

Andras NTR route what do I have to do to achieve it or does it end with the bath scene?

(I just found Zahira the sex slave Andras has but it was the scene where MC and Andras both has sex slaves with yellow blond hair chick so I guess this ain't it)
There are two official NTR paths in the game. One for Andras and one for Jezera. These arcs go beyond beyond general cheating and are explicitly about Alexia being stolen from Rowan by one of the twins. These are the requirements for starting Andras' NTR path.

1. Andras need to have a high influence over Alexia (I believe as least 5 points). You achieve this by having Alexia give into Andras at every opportunity. This of course includes sexual favors, but also giving into his influance about how to feel and what to say as well.
1a. Andras also has to have higher influence that Jezera. You cannot pursue both NTR paths at the same time. The twins will respect each other claims.

2. Alexia and Rowan need to have a low relationship score (below 50). You achieve this by having Rowan be mean and spiteful towards each other. Say hurtful things in the heat of the moment, don't make time for the other one, be dismissive of them.
There are a couple repeatable scene that can lower their relationship. The easiest one is to hae Alexia work as a maid and have her believe the gossip about Rowan. For the other Rowan has to have had at least 2 gay scene, and you can hae Alexia question his sexuality while working at the bar.

3. Finally Alexia needs the have at least medium corruption (over 30). If you are achieving the above criteria you probably wont have a problem with this one. But in case you need a little extra push, corruption primarily comes from having sexual interaction with demons, performing cruel or evil acts, and exposure to chaos magic

Soon after meeting those criteria you will trigger a certain scene. Rowan will ask Alexia to deliver some orders to the orc barracks. When she does so, one of the orcs will insult her. You have to have her insult him back. He will not take this well and will try to retaliate. Then have Alexia report the orcs action to Andras. After Andras deals with the matter he will invite Alexia to his chambers. Have her decide go to his chambers. Congratulations, you are now on the NTR train, enjoy the ride since there in no getting off it.
 
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Jynx_lucky_j

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How is Alexia highly corrupted but still loyal ?
There is a Rowan Corruption track, a Alexia Corruption track, and there is a Rowan/Alexia Relationship track. And they move independently from each other, so it is entirely possible to have Rowan and/or Alexia be highly corrupted while also still maintaining a strong relationship.

That said it is harder to gain lot of corruption when you aren't slutting around, particularly for Alexia. And there are a number scenes that increase corruption wile reducing their relationship. Andras in particular has a number of scenes where he is actively trying to drive a wedge between Alexia and Rowan, and if Alexia goes along in those cases it will reduce her relationship with Rowan.

As an example hypothetical, if Andras tells Alexia to suck his dick because he is horny and she agrees, she gains corruption for sucking off a demon. If Andras tells her she should suck him because her husband is a wimp, and she responds that he's right her husband is a wimp and proceeds to suck him, she gains corruption for sucking off a demon and then she also loses relationship because she is thinking less of Rowan. So you can see it is important to take the context of the scene into consideration.

But even if you do trigger scene that lowers their relationship, there are also a several opportunities to increase their relationship stat that can be used to boost it back up. Of particular note, you can increase corruption and relationship at the same time with X’Zaratl's content and/or Alexia's fertility treatments with Nasim.
 

DR YOS

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Oh hey it been a while since this one has come up! I guess I'll dust this off...

Here is an updated version of a tierlist I threw together a while back of every named character with a sprite in the game. Feel free to mess around and make your own list here

The below tierlist doesn't necessarily represent how into the "fetish" they represent I am. Rather it is a mixture of how much I enjoy seeing them on screen, how much I like the character, and how much I think they add to the story. For example I hate Andras, he would be in the bottom tier, except I must admit I kind of like hating him, and he certainly is important to the story.

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I Have not got far in the game, only up to the point where the couple are split up. I noticed there is a Trans genre listed, does something supernatural happen to the male MC that changes him physically in some way?. The Female MC, well she is easily persuaded by the Demons sexually speaking.
 

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There is a Rowan Corruption track, a Alexia Corruption track, and there is a Rowan/Alexia Relationship track. And they move independently from each other, so it is entirely possible to have Rowan and/or Alexia be highly corrupted while also still maintaining a strong relationship.

That said it is harder to gain lot of corruption when you aren't slutting around, particularly for Alexia. And there are a number scenes that increase corruption wile reducing their relationship. Andras in particular has a number of scenes where he is actively trying to drive a wedge between Alexia and Rowan, and if Alexia goes along in those cases it will reduce her relationship with Rowan.

As an example hypothetical, if Andras tells Alexia to suck his dick because he is horny and she agrees, she gains corruption for sucking off a demon. If Andras tells her she should suck him because her husband is a wimp, and she responds that he's right her husband is a wimp and proceeds to suck him, she gains corruption for sucking off a demon and then she also loses relationship because she is thinking less of Rowan. So you can see it is important to take the context of the scene into consideration.

But even if you do trigger scene that lowers their relationship, there are also a several opportunities to increase their relationship stat that can be used to boost it back up. Of particular note, you can increase corruption and relationship at the same time with X’Zaratl's content and/or Alexia's fertility treatments with Nasim.
is there a genre specifically for "Swinging" and "open relationships" then?.
 

Jynx_lucky_j

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is there a genre specifically for "Swinging" and "open relationships" then?.
There are 3 character you can open your relationship to in a (somewhat) healthy way.

The first is Greyhide the minotaur. If either Rowan or Alexia sleep with him then at the end of his arc there is and option for the ther partner to give them their blessing to continue the relationship. If both of them sleep with Greyhide then there is an option on continue the relationship as a throuple.

Next is X’Zaratl the Futanari succubus. She is a Rowan x Alexia fan girl and want to do everything in her power to improve you relationship and expand the pairs sexual horizons. And if you ask her to she will happily join you in the process. Do note however that no matter how nice she is, she is still a demon so having sex with her will increase your corruption.

The third is Liurial the submissive elf secretary. She starts out as Rowan's secret subby slut, but eventually a scene will trigger in which Alexia becomes suspicious of the two of them. Rowan can choose to come clean and offer to share Liurial with Alexia as Master and Mistress. It's not guaranteed how Alexia will react however, as it is one of the most complicated checks in the game and it weighs a large number of factors to decide how Alexia responds to the offer.
 

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Zahira while she looks stunning I need something more to contribute than just sex slave.

The black magic gardener guy is there since I want know him more in Part 2 of the game.

Everyone on the "respect: category either cares for someone/ something or achieved something no matter the means e.g woman orc girl poisons orc leader to get the tribe or Andras while he's rough on all edges you can't deny the fact that he treats his sex slaves well and as long as you best him combat he actually respects you.

Some might say wolf guy should be part of the list on "respect" but he feels off, I think if I had to choose the worse character is the red and gold duke who kills himself.

(If there's a biased her it's the fact that I don't like short stack women, don't get me wrong I think Cla-minin game art and the sex scenes don't do her justice. The sex scenes were just drawn too good. But I just don't like short stacks)

*If you're wondering the "The Hot Ones" doesn't include story or character development that is purely a boner test. Those 4 in my opinion just have the best scenes and art for the entire part 1 of the game. (Sources I draw art, not as great as theirs that's why I'm truly amazed on some of these scenes on how it's depicted and the shading and layering of the colors)

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One dev recently added NTR content in their game as a "hidden extra" for those who wanted it but that backfired and caused them to get a bunch of negative reviews (and even formerly good reviews to be edited) to the point they turned off ratings all together. They pointed out that it wasn't even in any public version of the game but got a response of "but you still made it and it still exists" from one user... yikes.

Another dev had one storyline branch in their game which had the "threat" of NTR (for plot reasons) but even with their assurance that they'll never add NTR content... there were still a few people basically commenting "if there's NTR here, THIS GAME IS DEAD".
What games may I ask?


I'm pretty understanding of the circular discussion cycle. But the number of times I've seen someone ask a question that is was just answered 2-4 posts above gets immensely frustrating.
Come now, it's a thread for a VN with a measly two million word count; expecting people to read a couple pages is clearly asking too much.
 

Jynx_lucky_j

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What's the best attribute to investing for stats
There's no "right" answer, but if your not sure where to put you points to start, you wont regret focusing on Combat, Survival, Stealth, and Diplomacy. However you will eventually want have some points in everything because you will run in to every kind of skill check. Also note that you can can buy permanent skill bonuses from Cla-Min's caravan at 250g a pop.
 
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peruanosexy

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Oh hey it been a while since this one has come up! I guess I'll dust this off...

Here is an updated version of a tierlist I threw together a while back of every named character with a sprite in the game. Feel free to mess around and make your own list here

The below tierlist doesn't necessarily represent how into the "fetish" they represent I am. Rather it is a mixture of how much I enjoy seeing them on screen, how much I like the character, and how much I think they add to the story. For example I hate Andras, he would be in the bottom tier, except I must admit I kind of like hating him, and he certainly is important to the story.

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? I thought most people did the blackholt goblin quest. For me one of the most interesting.
 

Jynx_lucky_j

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? I thought most people did the blackholt goblin quest. For me one of the most interesting.
I stopped playing just after the Blackhold goblins were introduced, only the first few scenes had been released at the time and it still didn't have CGs yet. I was getting burned out from playing it again after every new update released for about 2 years. So I decided I would step back from the game for a while, and let a bunch of updates pile up before coming back, or maybe even wait for the game to finish.

I still check in here on periodically though to see whats going on and keep abreast of the game's development. And to be honest, of all the porn games I've played this has been the only one that I felt was worth having real discussions over, so I like to join in the conversation. I've never played another porn game that got me so invested and engrossed that I felt the need to talk to other people about it after finishing it. Though if anyone has some suggestions I'm all ears.
 

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I still check in here on periodically though to see whats going on and keep abreast of the game's development. And to be honest, of all the porn games I've played this has been the only one that I felt was worth having real discussions over, so I like to join in the conversation. I've never played another porn game that got me so invested and engrossed that I felt the need to talk to other people about it after finishing it. Though if anyone has some suggestions I'm all ears.
I dont think that there is quite anything like seed of chaos. These is possibly most amabsious porn game ever made and it manages to be at least good if not great in every category you can measure be it wirtintg story or art and also manages to deliver best role playing experience while also having something for every kind of player and it somehow works. So recomeding something like seed of chaos is very difficult if not impossible .

From what i know there are only two games which wille quite diffrent from seed of chaos
Give same importnace to story.
1)The last sovereign _ possibly best harem story. It doesn't has same character freedom and is much more liner but its main story is great.
2)Noblesse oblige _ it is also harem story but quite different from tls. Its also has great story and you can make very interesting decisions.
 
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