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I think Mary's alignment could easily change, because of her relationship with Alexia. If the dev intends to create events between Mary and Rowan, than it would be even easier. But it doesn't really matter, as she is a perfect case of many NPCs that - even though make great scenes - don't have much to offer in a coup against the Twins. What I believe would change everything is if Kharos, the God of Darkness or something like that, interfered and nominated Rowan as his true heir. I know, I know, it seems rather bizarre. However many things point to that direction. For example, the existence of Kharos and Solansia points of favour. Also, since the beginning, the game has presented the idea that as Rowan grew closer to the Twins, and so "Darkness" and Kharos, he also distanced himself from Solansia, representing his old life and "Light". Well, if I'm wrong or not, we'll have to wait, as the game seems quite far from the end.Okay, so I've quickly tried to gather the factions and NPCs from memory and from the discussions found around here. Why? 'Cause I was curious about something as explained here. Help me build the list. (See spoiler.)
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Faction / NPC Loyalties (by end of Act I)
Rowan / Alexia
(Can or will join the PCs, or can be convinced to switch from The Twins.) The Twins / Bloodmeen
(Will join or remain faithful regardless of the actions either Rowan or Alexia.) Neither
(Follows their own agenda or has loyalties elsewhere. Or undetermined.)Greyhide Bloodmeen Standing Force Armies of the Six Realms Liurial Mary Cla-Clan Lady Eleanor Delane Shaya Cliohna Tarish Skordred (Deleted.) Juliet Villele X'zaratl Nasim Patricia Crevette Indarah Jak Agatha / Ygriss Batri Ulcro Helayna Ameraine Duke Antoine of Werden ??? Dazzanath Jacques and the Copper Faction ??? Marianne Adventuring Party of Qais, Sheera, et al. Aryzl and the Midnight Court Isdruel Black Ness Heartsong, Whitescar, Red Sun Alliance ???
After looking for NPCs, I was going to give a short reason for why they were placed where they were on the table. But I'm tired after that. ^^' So unless you think someone or a faction was incorrectly placed, I'll let it stand. However, let's see if we can't fill this out more! Be awesome in the meantime, y'all!
Edit: aykarin, I didn't see your post until after refreshing the page with this post. I've kept Cliohna and Nasim in the third column since they appear to follow their own goals over other concerns, I did move over the Cla-Clan per your suggestion however. I don't believe Shaya, Draith, or Indarah would break from Bloodmeen since Shaya is a close friend to Jezera and Indarah is indebted to The Twins. I've removed Draith from the table for now (edit#2, again, lol). The Fae Factions appear only willing to work with either our PCs or Bloodmeen to further their own goals without aligning themselves to either in full commitment (per my understanding of many users' posts including yours). Also, as I recall Ameraine is also a personal friend to Jez as well, is she not? In any event, thank-you for the well-thought out and for the most insightful post, Aykarin. For now, I'm going to give this time to stew for a bit and see what others have to say before making further changes or additions. Off to other things for now! Be safe, y'all!
Edit #2 - Draith removed from the table (again).
Edit #3 - Corrected Juliet's last name and clarified Duke Werden in the table.
Wait wait wait, X'zaratyl only came to Bloodmeen because of Rowan and Alexia and not because of her friend, Jezera? Did she even know who they were before even arriving to Bloodmeen? (I mean, outside of what Jezera might have said about Bloodmeen and Rowan off-screen when Jez first invited her.) X'zaratyl didn't even recognize the couple when they first met, right? Ret-conned? I heard there was a little bit of a rewrite to allow for a fit better with the new content centered around the character. Having not played through this, if the player makes the most optimal choices in regards to X'zaratyl, could Rowan/Alexia actually secure her loyalty above The Twins by the end of Act I? Or would she just be infatuated with the couple and continue to remain faithful to Jezera in the end?Oh, and X’zzy is a hardcore RowanxAlexia shipper in her updates, stating outright that they’re literally the only reason she came along with the twins, so you should probably stick her in their camp unequivocally.
No, in the rewrite she’s got this whole fanfiction thing worked out in her head for RowanxAlexia; she was apparently following news of Rowan’s exploits (and researching his home life) during the war. I’m not exaggerating when I call her a fangirl shipper, that’s 100% how she’s presenting herself. I suspect she has other motivations, but her real interest for now seems to be RowanxAlexia, period. Without knowing more about what she ultimately wants, it’s hard to say exactly what she’d do, of course, but if we take what she says at face value, all she wants is to wallow in RowanxAlexia, she doesn’t really give a crap about anything else.You think so? I believe Mary is steadfastly loyal to Jezera despite working together or having fun with Alexia. When it comes to her servants that personally serves her, it's stated that Jezera takes her time and fully vets the candidates. And Mary is one of them -- going so far as marking her body for Jezera.
What do y'all think? Do you guys think she'd be able to throw her lot with Alexia over her mistress when it comes down to it by the end of Act I? Is this possible in the current version of SoC?
Wait wait wait, X'zaratyl only came to Bloodmeen because of Rowan and Alexia and not because of her friend, Jezera? Did she even know who they were before even arriving to Bloodmeen? (I mean, outside of what Jezera might have said about Bloodmeen and Rowan off-screen when Jez first invited her.) X'zaratyl didn't even recognize the couple when they first met, right? Ret-conned? I heard there was a little bit of a rewrite to allow for a fit better with the new content centered around the character. Having not played through this, if the player makes the most optimal choices in regards to X'zaratyl, could Rowan/Alexia actually secure her loyalty above The Twins by the end of Act I? Or would she just be infatuated with the couple and continue to remain faithful to Jezera in the end?
Skordred recognizes Rowan as the Champion of Chaos only if you decide to go with Might makes right as the modus operandi.I actually placed the Cla-Clan with Rowan's camp originally on the table, but was convinced otherwise by Aykarin. Perhaps that will change with further debate. Who knows? Skordred currently acknowledges that Rowan is Chaos's Champion, I agree;
I think it depends on how you treat them and whether you sided with Tarki from the start.The Orciad Orcs would ultimately lie with Bloodmeen, wouldn't it?
It does seem bizarre, I do think the two gods play a role but direct intervention seems to be unlike them, especially Kharos who likes to watch shit unfold, I believe it was Nassim who said Kharos strongly stands by his motto of might makes right that he would even let his own priests fend for themselves at the face of annihilation.What I believe would change everything is if Kharos, the God of Darkness or something like that, interfered and nominated Rowan as his true heir. I know, I know, it seems rather bizarre.
It seems like it, she has an interest in Rowan and she develops a love for him and alexia, she seems to be interested in watching over their relationship and willing to participate if Rowan lets her in, she also seems to have an interest in helping Alexia get pregnant and also hints at being interest in it too. Probably both getting pregnant and impregnating Alexia if allowed by Rowan idk.Wait wait wait, X'zaratyl only came to Bloodmeen because of Rowan and Alexia and not because of her friend, Jezera?
No, not without modding the game. (To modify it, replace any CGs with the old style in game's directory after UnRening it. This will only get you so far since new CGs will be created to the current visual style of the game.) The team is trying to bring a similar style to the CGs in the game so that it doesn't look like it's been hacked and duct-taped together from a wide variety of sources and styles. In fact, existing CGs will be touched up as needed to bring them in line with a similar visual theme for continued consistency. Personally, I approve of this move as it makes the game look a lot less amateurish.I liked the old art much more to be honest. Is there a way to roll it back?
Other than with Emma, I don't believe so....have lactation scene?
Well, whilst this is quite dissapointing, it also makes it easier for the MC, as he doesn't need clear nomination and can just proclaim himself.It does seem bizarre, I do think the two gods play a role but direct intervention seems to be unlike them, especially Kharos who likes to watch shit unfold, I believe it was Nassim who said Kharos strongly stands by his motto of might makes right that he would even let his own priests fend for themselves at the face of annihilation.
I'd have to get the old CGs from somewhere first. I'll see if there's any left in the public build.No, not without modding the game. (To modify it, replace any CGs with the old style in game's directory after UnRening it. This will only get you so far since new CGs will be created to the current visual style of the game.)
Normally I'd be all for style consistency, and I know a few projects which quality was hurt overall by mashing unfitting art together, but old art style is the reason I care for Seeds of Chaos, and it hurts seeing it go.The team is trying to bring a similar style to the CGs in the game so that it doesn't look like it's been hacked and duct-taped together from a wide variety of sources and styles. In fact, existing CGs will be touched up as needed to bring them in line with a similar visual theme for continued consistency. Personally, I approve of this move as it makes the game look a lot less amateurish.
I extract everything with Unren, never had any issues.Does anyone know if and how can someone decompile images or music? I tried using rpaextract but I keep get Errno13. I even tried using command line to grant myself full control and even after I do that successfully nothing changes.
Ι didn't know about Unren. I will give it a try and update my commentI extract everything with Unren, never had any issues.
Here, you can try this --I'd have to get the old CGs from somewhere first. I'll see if there's any left in the public build.
Normally I'd be all for style consistency, and I know a few projects which quality was hurt overall by mashing unfitting art together, but old art style is the reason I care for Seeds of Chaos, and it hurts seeing it go.
Try running it in administrator mode. You may need to change your pathway as well. Not sure if that apostrophe you got there is a ASCII apostrophe since non-ASCII characters does cause issues. Are you able to run the game normally? That's what pops into my head first.View attachment 1142040
(Since I don't know how to take a screenshot in Win10, here is a snapshot)
Yeah, that's something caused by UAC, odd symbols in your path or folder's permissions, so Back's advice of unpacking the game somewhere safe and running it as admin ought to help.(Since I don't know how to take a screenshot in Win10, here is a snapshot)