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How exactly does unRen work and how can I use it to chose scenes from this game? Can you explain pls
Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.08] [Vénus Noire]
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Hello. I am here to onc again remind you that we are specifically asking for feedback and discussion of the new events.
Liurial Finale, Chaos Incursions, New Jezera Events, and Zii and Che-Lin introductions in Blackholt.
Liurial Finale, Chaos Incursions, New Jezera Events, and Zii and Che-Lin introductions in Blackholt.
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Copy the Unren.bat file into your game folder and run it.
Choose the "Enable Console and Developer Menu" option then close out of unren.bat once it finishes (it'll just take a sec)
Launch your game.
The developer mode can do various things, but you'll be primarily interested in the options in Rowan's Chambers.
Click the "show debug" button on the bottom left, then the "events" button.
You'll be greeted with the following screen:
Events in red have already been seen in your current game, turquoise you meet the requirement but have not been seen yet in the current game, greyish they are not currently active in the game (you'll see this mostly with the old fairy events).
For example:
Here we have the event "francois_the_orc_chef"
In the conditions you can see that I meet 2 conditions (Week is greater than 34 and my relationship with Alexia if greater than 50) but I don't meet 2 other conditions (my corruption is not less than 31 and Alexia's corruption is also not less than 31)
You can click the "Force run now" button to see the event. However keep in mind that the even will not count as being run in your game unless you click the little "+" button next to the "Run count."
A couple caveats:
Unfortunately a lot of the event names do not use a standardized naming format, which can sometimes make finding specific scene a pain.
This will only list evens that can trigger automatically (mostly castle or map events). Some notible events that are absent are Nasim's fertility treatments, all the orc and goblin army recruitment events, and all the Rastadel events. You can however tigger the required events and/or use cheats in other areas of the debugger to give your self a bunch of gold and XP to speed up getting to those scenes naturally.
There is a problem after the invasion of rastedel even though CG shows that the mission is a success the game objective doesnt change.I cant go back to rastedel can someone please help me I dont understand whats going on
There is a problem after the invasion of rastedel even though CG shows that the mission is a success the game objective doesnt change.I cant go back to rastedel can someone please help me I dont understand whats going on
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oooh ok, thank you so much my guy for such a long answer, I am really grateful <3
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I think I just completed the Liurial content. For the most part, it seemed pretty good. There was maybe just a couple things that came to mind that I was expecting to be there, that weren't. Firstly, in regard to Jezera, I was kind of surprised there was no high corruption/high influence with Jezera choice where Rowan would attempt to try to appease the situation by trying to come up with some sort of compromise with Jezera where there would be some sort of joint relationship with Liurial. Whether or not it would be possible to make that fly with Jezera as a possible solution aside, I was kind of expecting that to be a path to some extent.
Secondly, I was surprised that there was no choice path that was more involved with Alexia. With the threesome event, it was possible to more or less establish that Liurial was Alexia's too, and yet there is no pathing or dialogue that comes up that acknowledges that previous establishment. What I really would have wanted is for an option for all three, Alexia, Rowan, and Liurial, to bond after what happened. Even more so since Alexia doesn't know Liurial as well as Rowan at that point, and so it would be sensible for her to want to catch up and spend as much time as she could together to solidify her connection to Liruial more. Likewise, for Alexia to not be bothered by Rowan and Liurial smiling at one another based on choices in the previous trio interaction. All in all, it makes it feel like the choices made in said previous trio interaction didn't really matter or impact things to the extent that I thought they would in what occurred with Liurial later.
On a third note, sort of combining these two considerations in a way, it doesn't seem like it would be completely unreasonable if prior to doing the Liruial Finale, if you had both done the corruption Alexia x Jezera content and taken the Alexia x Rowan x Liurial path, that there would be a possible playing of events where Jezera tests her influence on Alexia by trying to utilize her as an agent to lean Liurial or Rowan (or both) towards Jezera's will in regard to Liurial. It would be interesting to see pathing choices like that lead to this sort of potential branch for Liurial. It's always fun to see past choices give way to reflective path options for events in these type of games.
But, yeah, other than those considerations, it seemed fairly solid. Hopefully that is useful as feedback.
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So I decided to reset everything and start from beginning, now I'm curious. Who you guys think Rowan should side in the Rastedel? Why? Also what the consequences after that? I don't read the walkthrough yet (maybe after I finish this version), so what you guys think?
Depends on what Rowan's priorities are. If he wants to undermine the Twins, he should side with Duke Werden, letting Rosarian nobles escape from the city. Survival of the political elite is vital if he plans to re-establish the kingdom once the demons are defeated.
If Rowan is evil, he should align himself with Patricia, either corrupting her on his own (in order to gain a valuable ally for the future power-struggle with the Twins), or with the help of Ameraine (if he is loyal to his masters). As I generally tend to play as an evil Bloodmeen loyalist, I most often choose the latter.
The worst option in my opinion is siding with Jacques. He is too independent and distrustful to be considered as Rowan's true ally, while at the same time chooses to actively cooperate with the Twins, so he can't be used to undermine their power.
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This is interesting. Your first two assessments are pretty spot on which begs the question of why Jacques is an option at all. I didn't choose him either and didn't see much benefit to an alliance with him so I do wonder what playstyle or story path he is meant to signify. Maybe someone who is playing neither "good" (trying to undermine the twins) or "evil" (trying to overthrow or replace the twins) but rather someone who is fully resigned to being a slave of the twins. Even in-game Rowan makes the assessment that he is the last person he should pick. So what effect could choosing him have long term? It has to be something deeper than just having another gay love interest I'm sure.
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There actually was a threesome resolution but it was cut for time. It may be added this release. Just a product of the finale already running 120 pages.
Jezera explicitly recommends Rowan to side with Patricia and corrupt her using the magic necklace. Upon doing so, Rowan discovers that Patricia starts being completely loyal to her new mistress and doesn't even care that Rastedel is half-destroyed and sacked. That's why I think this is the route for someone who plays Rowan as a "slave to the Twins".
I agree with you that Jacques' route is meant to signify a certain playstyle or storyline, but right now it's very ambiguous what could become of it in later parts of the game. I suppose there will be more to his character in Act 2 (provided he lives), especially since his wife was introduced with a separate sprite. When we look on what each faction in Rastedel signifies, it's very obvious that:
* Werden stands for the current establishment made of nobility and clergy - he doesn't desire more influence than he already has, while possessing a strong power-base in the form of his own duchy outside of Rastedel (which makes him completely independent);
* Jacques represents the city's bourgeoise, mostly made of wealthy merchants - he is ambitious but also very careful; he is independent only to a degree;
* Patricia doesn't align herself with any major faction and tries to fulfill her own political ambitions while not possessing all the means to do so (which makes her the perfect puppet for Jezera/evil Rowan, who can use her hunger for power to control her effectively).
Out of these three options, evil Rowan obviously picks the third one, but which one should be picked by the good/neutral Rowan? If he is truly good (in the most obvious sense, supporting Solansia's order, etc.), he should side with Werden, because that option provides the only possibility of returning to status quo ante bellum after the Twins are defeated. If you choose Jacques, it's clearly stated that he doesn't trust Jezera - he only agrees to serve her because it's the best course of action for him at that very moment. If the Twins were to become weaker, he would probably betray them. Maybe the Jacques' route has been added to give Rowan another option outside of being evil/supporting Kharos and being good/supporting Solansia. Jacques serves neither of these powers. His greatest political wish is to create a republican system, of which the bourgeoise, including himself, would be the de facto oligarchical rulers. If Rowan isn't corrupted, but also holds a grudge toward Solansia and nobility, he could potentially agree with this ideal.
Jacques' route provides with some unique potential story-wise for the next arcs. Siding with him is certainly an interesting choice, but as an ally, Jacques is very shaky and not trustworthy, both for Rowan and the Twins. That's why I don't think it's a good choice.
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Bruh, do you think when you date someone you stop being "lusting" over other people?
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As I thought about it I've become less convinced that the Werden path is the "good" path. I used to think that Werden was a hard-ass, but now I think he is just an ass. He is the epitome of being so far on the side of order that it becomes a detriment. If you want to restore the kingdom as it was then by all means back Werden, but the kingdom as it was was already broken. In fact I think Werden would make the problems worse with how draconian and uncompromising he is. So I think he would be a bad leader for the city. Werden's primary selling point is his skill as a military commander, but I haven't seen any evidence that his more than just competent in that regard.
Personally, I see backing Werden is a trap. People seem to think that Werden is the "good" choice because he would never bend knee to the demons even as subterfuge, and because we unlock the option through the good deed of saving Delane. But he is only a good choice on the surface level, sometimes achieving the greatest good requires a certain amount of pragmatism.
Personally I think Jaques is being under sold. In the end he is a pragamtist. Does he willingly swear allegiance to the twins, yes because he can see the writting on the wall. But he clearly doesn't like the idea of doing so. I suspect that given a solid opportunity to betray the twins and become the actual leader, he would jump at the chance. Plus, I simply agree with his political stance of allowing upwards mobility with in society over any position that Werdan or Patricia hold, so I think he is better to the person to run the country full stop. Even if I'm not comfortble with how capitalist Jaques is, I still feel it is a step up from the current system.
On the other hand if you want Rowan to be in control, whether benevolently or not, then Rowan controlling Patricia himself is simply the best option. Not taking control of her yourself plays directly in to the twin's hands since even with out mind control Patricia is easily manipulated by Jezera.
I think either backing Jaques or controlling Patricia yourself ultimately puts Rowan in a better position and will lead to better conditions for the citizens.
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Hmm. I'm not sure if the assessment of the Patricia choice as the slave choice is completely accurate because you are able to ensure that she is loyal to you, not the twins, if you eliminate Amelaine from the equation. However, it is clearly the evil one and if you fully follow instructions it does smack of Rowan being blackpilled and resigned to his fate.