Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.10] [Vénus Noire]

[Foreeever]

Any way you could do it for the app version too?

not sure how the android version works, probably needs to be added by the one that makes the apk beforehand so that it could work but i go on assumptions

 

[xsssssssss]

How do you get it?

Getting military readiness up(i had it at 59%) and Army power up (i had it at 4.3k) when i finally triggered it.

 

[404NoNamegr]

A way to check wether the plug in is being used is to, play the game and when the black screen shows up (just before it crashes) shift to the multi app view ( the button right next to the home button).
The view shows which specific plugin version Joiplay is using to run the game.

Found the fix on joiplay, make sure to delete all plugins on joiplay itself and then install the latest plugin found on patreon.

 

[Idkbro25]

It blows my goddamn mind that this game has been around for almost 10 years and it's not finished. It's the Star Citizen of porn at this point

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True af, they get 10k €, 10K € A MONTH and they can't complete it

 

[snowman44]

Just wondering, how many threesomes involving Rowan are in the game? I'm not counting NTR stuff.

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

You'd have a point if Lord Arioch was making this game by himself but he's not. I'm not sure how many team members they have currently, but I'm pretty sure it's at least 4, but if I remember right it has been as high as 7.

But we will say the low end just to steelman your argument. Divide that 10,000 by 4 members and you're at 2,500 per month. Not exactly rolling in it.

Don't forget to subtract the cost of the art commissions, I wouldn't be surprised if after the commission costs the split is less than 2,000 per month. I remember when I was making that much things were tight, and inflation has gone up about 25% since I had to live on that.

 

[Oriandu]

You's have a point if Lord Arioch was making this game by himself but he's not. I'm not sure how many team members they have currently, but I'm pretty sure it's at least 4, but if I remember right it has been as high as 7.

But we will say the low end just to steelman your argument. Divide that 10,000 by 4 members and you're at 2,500 per month. Not exactly rolling in it.

Don't forget to subtract the cost of the art commissions, I wouldn't be surprised if after the commission costs the split is less than 2,000 per month. I remember when I was making that much things were tight, and inflation has gone up about 25% since I had to live on that.

Hold on, the artist works on commissions and isn't a member of the development team? From what I've seen of artist commission prices the amount of artwork needed per update would be absolutely unsustainable based on the amount SoC pulls in.

 

[Kisama33]

Divide that 10,000 by 4 members and you're at 2,500 per month. Not exactly rolling in it.
Don't forget to subtract the cost of the art commissions, I wouldn't be surprised if after the commission costs the split is less than 2,000 per month.

That wouldn't be so bad (depending on where you live)... but then there Patreon take (5%) + taxes and fees.

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

Hold on, the artist works on commissions and isn't a member of the development team? From what I've seen of artist commission prices the amount of artwork needed per update would be absolutely unsustainable based on the amount SoC pulls in.

Its possible that I'm mistaken about the commission. Or that the nature of their agreement has changed from the last time I heard about it. I'm going entirely off of memory, but I thought they were getting a lower commission rate for bulk commissions and providing steady work. But I could be mixing up that detail with another team. If anyone has any more concrete info on the team's make up I'll defer to them.

If the artists are getting a cut instead of commissions then that bring the minimum team size up to 6 or 1,667 per month.

But the point is that that 10,000 a month is not as much money as it seems, once you have to divide it with a group.

 

[Raymong Classey]

Can someone upload the new patreon posts ?

 

[rivon]

Its possible that I'm mistaken about the commission.

But the point is that that 10,000 a month is not as much money as it seems, once you have to divide it with a group.

Okay.
Arioch own the game and run the project.
He gets all the money and then pays the freelancers.
Everyone else is just hired hands.
Their are 5-6 people who do writing.
one guy who do coding
And two guys who do painting (one do line work and another do line work and finished art).
Freelance writers are paid by the number of words they do and yes writers usually get meager income.
The only guy who gets a fair share is probably the main artist Sommi, who does all the finished art work.
I would guess it's around $200 each art work or so.
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+ you completely forget the income from steam
It has sold 26k copies on steam with a pricing of 20$
and the lowest discount was 30%
So even if everyone bought the game with discount arioch still made
400k-350k usd on steam alone.
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So...
1) It is not the lack of money that is holding back progress, but Arioch's inability to organize the workload and plan it properly.
2) Judging by Arioch behavior, he doesn't really care about speeding it up.
3) But why would he, if he has a good, stable income.
It's just the way it is, why kill a cash cow?

 

[BigOne24]

>Helayna is Rowan and Alexia's plaything

How do I get that to happen lol

 

[Foreeever]

hopefully not much changed on 0.4.09a, not sure if subscribestar has same content or not as just patreon got updated here
haven't managed to test it out so let me know how it works

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slight update today as i missed one scene in the patreon update but waited for steam for confirmation about something

 

[Shaska]

You'd have a point if Lord Arioch was making this game by himself but he's not. I'm not sure how many team members they have currently, but I'm pretty sure it's at least 4, but if I remember right it has been as high as 7.

But we will say the low end just to steelman your argument. Divide that 10,000 by 4 members and you're at 2,500 per month. Not exactly rolling in it.

Don't forget to subtract the cost of the art commissions, I wouldn't be surprised if after the commission costs the split is less than 2,000 per month. I remember when I was making that much things were tight, and inflation has gone up about 25% since I had to live on that.

F95 users when a dev team makes a gigantic game with good story, content and art but takes their time to polish it with regular updates (they didnt pay anything for it and downloaded it for free):

 

[Shaska]

>Helayna is Rowan and Alexia's plaything

How do I get that to happen lol

Take her as your pet after castle siege and you can convince Alexia you're trying to help her. She's not very happy with it but (very reluctantly) allows you to have a sexpet. I don't think there is actual content where she's actually participating in Helayna's... training, other than Helayna's fantasies. Kinda hope that will change in the future, afterall she does accept and partake in Liurial "duties".

 

[aykarin]

Three new CGs for Rowan x Sookie scene (Jezera loyalty event):

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[mehGusta]

it's kind of funny that in a porn game, or at least a game with heavy pornographic elements, something like a succubus, a demonic being famous for their (biological? magical?) need for sex, are the comic-relief of the story. they are always up to some dumb shit.

 

[BigOne24]

I'm personally surprised by a lack of threesome content with Rowan x Alexia x Jezera or Rowan x Alexia x Andras. You'd figure that if you have em submit to either twin enough that would happen.

 

[Nym85]

I'm personally surprised by a lack of threesome content with Rowan x Alexia x Jezera or Rowan x Alexia x Andras. You'd figure that if you have em submit to either twin enough that would happen.

At least the AlexiaXAndras arc is all about denigrating Rowan. I can't see Rowan involved in this outside a cuck role. Not sure about the Alexia one, haven't followed it.
Now a high corruption Alexia, high corruption Rowan with Rowan having high favour with Andras ending in such a scene would be possible imo. Something like Alexia asking Rowan if he has had sex with Andras, Rowan admitting it and she wanting a chance as well

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

F95 users when a dev team makes a gigantic game with good story, content and art but takes their time to polish it with regular updates (they didnt pay anything for it and downloaded it for free):

I mean if you disagree with em, that's fine. But trying to bring up whether someone paid or not. As if that magically changes what they said is retarded. Like sailing the high seas should come with curbing some entitlements. But it ain't a get out of jail free card.