Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.10] [Vénus Noire]

[sin(α)]

The problem with using console to raise stat is that you have to do it for every stat,

There're like 8 skills in the game. That's assuming you want to change them all. Not really that hard, is it?

There're two fundamental benefits of using console to mess with the game:
1) It's flexible as you can choose, which variables are affected. You can do it any time you want, even during the gameplay. And you can revert those changes any time.
2) It's pretty safe, as you only change the value of the variable. Not variables themselves, not game mechanics.

and for every playthrough.

No. You just make a save before and after you mess with skills. Then you can do as many playthroughs as you want, cheating or not (whatever you mean by "playthrough").

Also, what's minor is subjective.

Yes and no. Dice rolls (just for a case: I'm not talking about skill rolls) in the game do not decide if anything happens in most cases or even if you benefit/suffer from that. They decide how exactly you benefit/suffer from that. That's what I would call a minor.

If there's a chance that I can cover my ears before Cliohna casts some spell in a monastery, I want it to happen.

There's no monastery in the game. If you mean her lightning burst in the abbey (Abbey First event), then your skill roll affects nothing but some dialogue.

I asked this same question about a year ago and it wasn't possible. I am asking again: Can I betray these fucking demons? I hate the bastards. I want them dead or made a non-issue. I know you play the villain, that's fine. I'm cool with that. But I want to tear down the demons.

Not at the moment. I usually don't like to speculate, but judging by the direction SoC goes, I would predict three different endings. Probably with some variations. Following the decisions you made through the game. So here goes my two cents:
1) You stay "pure", true to Alexia etc. You will become strong one day, step by step and suffering on the quiet. At the end of the game you'll revenge twins for everything they did to you and Rosaria. GOOD ENDING
2) You help twins to conquer the world. And live happily ever after as a demon's fucktoy. Watching your now cumdump wife doing her things and giving no shit about Rosaria and it's people. BAD ENDING
3) You become corrupted, but preserve you backbone and make lots of dark allies secretly. At the end of the game you'll overthrow the twins and become the dark sovereign yourself. FUNNY ENDING

 

[RAAAAAAAGGGGHHH]

is this game completed?

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

is this game completed?

For the future references, finished games have a tag named 'Completed'. So it's not finished.

 

[projenkostarlic]

Anyone wanna share the results of the latest CG Poll #87 from Patreon? Please and thanks.

 

[Raven_Light]

I think there is a lot of Ntr potential with Rowan starting to suspect something that not being used here by our dear writers.
After all Ntr is all about our hero interactions with his not so faithful wifu.

It be nice if he found by Jeerza bringing him to peeking in Andras room putting it too his wife (maybe doggystyling her blindfolded comparing Rowans size, Debasing it, too Andras size, Praising it.) as Jeerza stands behind close and tight while giving him a handjob teasing him bout it.

Then later hes giving the opportunity to confront her bout it to let her know if hes fine with it or not,(which can lead too threesomes or having Rowan go in to watch and jerk off in front of them, by Alexia's choosing) the or ignores and becomes regular spy event with Jeerza.

For example.

 

[LilithLucifuge]

It be nice if he found by Jeerza bringing him to peeking in Andras room putting it too his wife (maybe doggystyling her blindfolded comparing Rowans size, Debasing it, too Andras size, Praising it.) as Jeerza stands behind close and tight while giving him a handjob teasing him bout it.

Then later hes giving the opportunity to confront her bout it to let her know if hes fine with it or not,(which can lead too threesomes or having Rowan go in to watch and jerk off in front of them, by Alexia's choosing) the or ignores and becomes regular spy event with Jeerza.

For example.

It used to be like that in the beginning. After getting his own room in the castle Rowan sneaks into Alexia's room and she realized that the Demons have been lying to her, Rowan grudgingly tells her that she could return Andreas' advances to keep the demons happy with them and to kinda sorta spy on them.

I used to like it that way instead of how it is now where Rowan seems like an oblivious NTR protagonist. Sex is a very low priority thing when the fate of the world is quite literally on your shoulder. That event where Andreas asks Rowan to blow him and he can basically tell him to go fuck his wife instead is also from that time.

 

[Raven_Light]

It used to be like that in the beginning. After getting his own room in the castle Rowan sneaks into Alexia's room and she realized that the Demons have been lying to her, Rowan grudgingly tells her that she could return Andreas' advances to keep the demons happy with them and to kinda sorta spy on them.

I used to like it that way instead of how it is now where Rowan seems like an oblivious NTR protagonist. Sex is a very low priority thing when the fate of the world is quite literally on your shoulder. That event where Andreas asks Rowan to blow him and he can basically tell him to go fuck his wife instead is also from that time.

Sounds like it was in older version before 3.0 plus. ☠ That sounds a lot better than what it is now because theres several moments that contradicts shit between him knowing to and going back to not knowing.

It be fine if he didnt know bout the 1st but made it so he found out after the Helayna ordeal.

 

[aykarin]

Sounds like it was in older version before 3.0 plus. ☠ That sounds a lot better than what it is now because theres several moments that contradicts shit between him knowing to and going back to not knowing.

It be fine if he didnt know bout the 1st but made it so he found out after the Helayna ordeal.

I remember that old version very well and even though it made more sense in the context of the old Andras x Alexia events, the new version is much better written and thought-out. The only problem right now is that many events from before the rewrite remain and because of this, the whole relationship between Alexia and Andras seems inconsistent. The devs will have to rewrite a couple of old events in order for this to make sense and not be contradictory.

 

[Gicoo]

Not at the moment. I usually don't like to speculate, but judging by the direction SoC goes, I would predict three different endings. Probably with some variations. Following the decisions you made through the game. So here goes my two cents:
1) You stay "pure", true to Alexia etc. You will become strong one day, step by step and suffering on the quiet. At the end of the game you'll revenge twins for everything they did to you and Rosaria. GOOD ENDING
2) You help twins to conquer the world. And live happily ever after as a demon's fucktoy. Watching your now cumdump wife doing her things and giving no shit about Rosaria and it's people. BAD ENDING
3) You become corrupted, but preserve you backbone and make lots of dark allies secretly. At the end of the game you'll overthrow the twins and become the dark sovereign yourself. FUNNY ENDING

The variations will throw a wench in it and overcomplicate the writing. You can have pure Rowan corrupt Alexia, reverse, both pure, both corrupt. Rowan can be a sub/dom to one or many woman almost regardless of his agency. Apparantly its planned that you can get rid of one of the twins by favoring the other ones etc. The different allies also overcomplicate it. What if Rowan submits to Clinoah and Tue-San, who gets him?

Thats the issue if the plot isn't written streamlined, but instead spread out in countless mini arcs that all have their own ending.

My prediction would be to sort the outcomes and the more Rowan leads towards one disposition, the more likely it branches out to an ending.

Disposition	Orc-Camp	Goblin-Town	Rastedel	Helayna
Pure, sabotaging twins	Rescue Delane	Tue-Row	Werner	Escape
Jezera	Tarish	Chelin	Patricia	Enslavement
Andras	Bartri	Zii-Zii	Jacques	Warrior
Chaotic, acclaiming power for himself	Ulcro	Tue-San	Patricia	Lover

 

[gintamago]

Che-Lin when

 

[hu lover]

I gave up after beating the second level of this game, couldn't really get into this.

 

[Raven_Light]

I remember that old version very well and even though it made more sense in the context of the old Andras x Alexia events, the new version is much better written and thought-out. The only problem right now is that many events from before the rewrite remain and because of this, the whole relationship between Alexia and Andras seems inconsistent. The devs will have to rewrite a couple of old events in order for this to make sense and not be contradictory.

Gotcha thanks for the information, I'll definitely be looking foward too the rewrites where it makes more sense.

 

[hentaifun121]

can we also have an option to opt out of gay scenes

 

[okamisamy]

can we also have an option to opt out of gay scenes

i think you can avoid all scenes if you want to or thats changed ?

 

[Rein]

Sex is always optional. But then what monster are you to avoid all of it.

 

[hentaifun121]

i think you can avoid all scenes if you want to or thats changed ?

idk i was only given a option to turn off ntr at the start of the game.. sometimes i dont read the dialogues and just skip them and choose the wrong answer then the mc gets the D

 

[palichan]

Sex is always optional. But then what monster are you to avoid all of it.

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[sin(α)]

idk i was only given a option to turn off ntr at the start of the game.. sometimes i dont read the dialogues and just skip them and choose the wrong answer then the mc gets the D

It's not possible to "turn off" all gay scenes (like in the NTR case). Menu choices is the only option to avoid them. You have to pay attention at least when you see Rowan together with Andras, Draith or Skordred (list is not exhaustive).

 

[mehGusta]

The variations will throw a wench in it and overcomplicate the writing. You can have pure Rowan corrupt Alexia, reverse, both pure, both corrupt. Rowan can be a sub/dom to one or many woman almost regardless of his agency. Apparantly its planned that you can get rid of one of the twins by favoring the other ones etc. The different allies also overcomplicate it. What if Rowan submits to Clinoah and Tue-San, who gets him?

Thats the issue if the plot isn't written streamlined, but instead spread out in countless mini arcs that all have their own ending.

My prediction would be to sort the outcomes and the more Rowan leads towards one disposition, the more likely it branches out to an ending.

Disposition	Orc-Camp	Goblin-Town	Rastedel	Helayna
Pure, sabotaging twins	Rescue Delane	Chelin	Werner	Escape
Jezera	Tarish	Tue-San	Patricia	Enslavement
Andras	Bartri	Zii-Zii	Jacques	Warrior
MGTOW	Ulcro	Tue-Row	None?	Lover

really? you think jezera and tue-san would work for a route? jezera sees nobody an equal and would see tue-san as a stubborn obstacle. while tue-san hates jezera and everything she means for her people and especially tue-row. tue-san is definitely an option to work against the twins. i'd say that tue-san and chelin swap places in your list.

idk i was only given a option to turn off ntr at the start of the game.. sometimes i dont read the dialogues and just skip them and choose the wrong answer then the mc gets the D

is that the reason why people have problems with optionable ntr when not having a variable to turn it off? they complain that they skip through the dialouge and then wonder why certain choices lead to ntr?
i'm sorry pal, but that's solely on you, that you get gay content.

on a more serious note: i think the game needs a ntr variable, because ntr can also happen off-screen. this way the devs can guarantee that no ntr will happen off-screen and at the same time disable any ntr content that you might encounter. i don't think the variable is there to shield people, who skip through the game, from any ntr content.
if somehow the game would suggest that gay stuff happens off-screen, without your direct control (like choosing one option and then one hour later it leads to gay content), then a variable for gay content would be a viable concern.

 

[Jynx_lucky_j]

on a more serious note: i think the game needs a ntr variable, because ntr can also happen off-screen. this way the devs can guarantee that no ntr will happen off-screen and at the same time disable any ntr content that you might encounter. i don't think the variable is there to shield people, who skip through the game, from any ntr content.
if somehow the game would suggest that gay stuff happens off-screen, without your direct control (like choosing one option and then one hour later it leads to gay content), then a variable for gay content would be a viable concern.

I would be curious to hear in which instances you feel that NTR is happening off screen. I've heard this sentiment a few times before but try as I might I can't think of a point where I believed there would be off screen NTR happening that isn't already fairly far down one of the explicitly onscreen NTR paths. From what I can tell, by the time you reach a point to say that Alexa is definitely boning this person off screen you would have had to indicate that you were okay with NTR happening in your play through at least a couple of times already.