Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.10] [Vénus Noire]
mehGusta
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with andras this really doesn't make any sense and is subject to a myriad of debates here on this forum (which i also often said is inconsistent behaviour from andras).
but yeah the official reason is that neither twin can allow themselves to openly mistreat alexia and rowan's relationship, since they are reliant on rowan's tactical genius. so they at least have to appear adhering to their promises to rowan, as otherwise he would not serve them. they need him as willing slave. anything else and he won't be worth it to be kept.
since the story has gotten far beyond the point where it would still be reasonable for rowan to not choose the hero's death, considering how integral he is to the success of the twins, my unofficial guess would be that those scenes are reserved for 2nd or 3rd act.
this reminds me, are they still doing the three act structure? I've heard nothing on act 2 for years
Not gonna lie, I was wondering when that would happen. It only makes sense if she is corrupt enough that something like that would happen.
Yep, according to all official information and statements they are still doing that. To speak to the Andras/Jezera NTR reveal to Rowan, they are specifically keeping that under wraps til at least some ways into Act 2 for the reasons already mentioned. Jezera can offhand mention to Rowan that Andras is fucking Alexia, but Rowan simply thinks that she is trying to rile him up. Which, to be fair, she is (and its dropping the ball on her part because she is supposed to be using Alexia to keep him loyal after all, but then Jezera isn't as smart or in control as she pretends to be). There's speculation that the amount of favor/influence Alexia has with Rowan/Andras/Jezera will eventually have Alexia join or stay loyal to either side in the eventual civil war that is going to happen within the Twins faction.
There's a lot of speculation going on with the story, especially since it is seeing some rewrites here and there. Probably one of the best stories in these kinds of games out there with how reactive it is. The devs have mentioned they're going to have to trim a lot of that going in to act 2, because their scene-count is ballooning to an insane degree.
That isn't how the scene works anymore. I think it was rewritten from a very early build of the game. Presuming the scene that it replaces is the one where Alexia remains angry with Andras during her captivity, then decides she is seriously considering his offer, then finally kisses Andras rather than slaps him.
BigOne24
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Ah! I was starting to suspect that list of scenes I was looking at was old. Thank you Devronman.
kratosz
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Could someone clarify the NTR path involving Andras x Alexia? I see there are two routes: one where it's full NTR and another where Alexia stays with Rowan but "helps" Andras. I'm a bit confused about how to navigate this to maintain a "lovely" relationship between the MC and Alexia while still having her ASSist Andras. Any tips on how to achieve this without outdated choices?
aykarin
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There is only one Alexia x Andras NTR route. I think some misunderstanding may arise from the fact that the game has many events which are NTR events with Andras. They happen either randomly or on certain points but in any given playthrough you may or may not get them all. Giving in to Andras during these events raises Alexia's "Andras influence" points. If Alexia's corruption AND these influence points are high enough (they need to be higher than "Jezera influence" points!) in addition to her relationship points with Rowan being low, you enter the Andras NTR path which is basically a chain of related events. Regardless of your choices, Rowan will not discover Alexia cheating on him so he continues his usual work in Bloodmeen.
It's so frustrating that the relationship points need to be low in addition to the influence points being high. What if I wanna play a Rowan that is not a douche to his wife but Alexia still gets the wandering eye.
BigOne24
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Anyone else ever get the feeling Jezera doesn't really like her twin bro all that much? Or at minimum she gets fed up with his antics
Aenys_Faelin
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Thet dont like each other, its an alliance of convenience.
It makes sense. They've been happily married for years and Andras is her manipulative kidnapper. The only reason she was even considering dealing with Andras was from a feeling of hopelessness when Rowan was missing. Once Rowan returned, she would only deal with Andras if Rowan started neglecting her or treating her poorly to the degree that she felt she had been abandoned by him. A person going from being someone's kidnapping victim who was openly lied to for a chance at fucking them, and who also openly abuses and rapes people, to being that persons willing sex slave is a long journey and that first proper step would have to be a doozy.
Besides, there's plenty of other men and women in the castle that she could become interested in that WASN'T her kidnapper already. In fact it makes up a bunch of the better content of the game!
It does make sense, but since it's fiction I think a few more paths could be explored.
Working with the choices that are already in the intro of the game, Alexia can:
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The thing is, there are already scenes in the game that could advance these routes but further progress is softlocked without low relationship.
You're welcome, Citizen *flies off to another porn emergency*
(on a serious note, I checked out the older builds on Itch.io and yeah its an older scene, where Rowan had the option not to sneak out and check on his wife after he was released. It made no real sense storywise given he just spent ages looking for her). A lot of the older version of the game had a bunch of the sex between the demons and the captives more obvious and it was just something they had to deal with and be sad about. The writing wasn't great in the earlier versions, but the art was decent. There's still a bunch of old scenes in the recent version that still sort of doesn't gel with the new direction. But that's something you often deal with with long dev cycles where you have to refactor old content and systems.
Kind of. I think it was either if she was a barmaid or a regular maid she hears rumors about Rowan's infidelity in general, and when she spots or hears about gay sex going on at the bar for instance she starts connecting some dots about how Rowan acts around men now (there's an actual secret counter that counts gay hookups for Rowan which triggers one of those events of introspection for her). All this really does for the most part is ostensibly lower her relationship score with him since he is living a life apart from her. It might also affect future dialogue, but don't quote me on that. I hope that helps, Citizen.
The Hero of Rosaria who falls from grace by failing a self-imposed suicide mission to save his wife, only for her to discover he's gay and has been stalling having baby making sex for years. That would be brutal.
they are both spoiled kids grown up in the shadow of the most famous warlord in the setting trying to follow. As others have said its an alliance of convenience , wouldnt be surprised if late game has you kill one for the other