Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.10] [Vénus Noire]

[Jynx_lucky_j]

I'm a new player, I wanted to know what I should or shouldn't do to have as much content as possible with Alexia and Helayna, without ntr scenes with Andras.

There is no "right" answer. If you claim Helanya, you can potentially unlock a few more scenes with her. But Alexia will permanately move out of your room and it will damage you relationship with her, which will lock you out of a couple scenes with Alexia that require you to share a room with her, and potentially making it more difficult to get Alexia's scenes that require a high relationship score .

That said, if you don't claim Helanya as your own there will be a scene later where Jezera and Andras fuck her in front of Rowan. Personally I (and the game) don't consider that to be NTR since Rowan isn't in a relationship with Helanya, but I've learned that some people have very broad definitions of NTR, so be aware.

However, even with NTR turned on, neither Rowan or Alexia ever have sex with with any other character with out the player explicitly choosing for it to happen.

 

[nejfan]

I expect the issue with not wanting Rowan to be so submissive is that the game is being created at a glacial pace. If we ever have the full game (big IF) then Rowan can likely end up with a very satisfying dominant arc by the end. But by then some of us will be in our 50s-60s

Yeah this will most likely be abandoned or rushed into oblivion at some point. The satisfying dominant route you're speaking of is practically impossible because of the amount of humiliation Rowan goes through bruh.

I genuinely can't think of a way to make it feel rewarding enough for how unpleasant most of the game has been even with NTR turned off.

Like damn, most of the inspirations behind this game are powerfantasies at the end of the day. The only thing this game has in common with them is the fact that it's grimdark. It's not a powerfantasy in the slightest and it's easy to see why people get the wrong expectations when they read the overview.

 

[WenakHP]

There is no "right" answer. If you claim Helanya, you can potentially unlock a few more scenes with her. But Alexia will permanately move out of your room and it will damage you relationship with her, which will lock you out of a couple scenes with Alexia that require you to share a room with her, and potentially making it more difficult to get Alexia's scenes that require a high relationship score .

That said, if you don't claim Helanya as your own there will be a scene later where Jezera and Andras fuck her in front of Rowan. Personally I (and the game) don't consider that to be NTR since Rowan isn't in a relationship with Helanya, but I've learned that some people have very broad definitions of NTR, so be aware.

However, even with NTR turned on, neither Rowan or Alexia ever have sex with with any other character with out the player explicitly choosing for it to happen.

Thanks!
In this case, if I don't invite Helanya to my room, can I still make progress with her? Or does this close her path?

 

[mehGusta]

Yeah this will most likely be abandoned or rushed into oblivion at some point. The satisfying dominant route you're speaking of is practically impossible because of the amount of humiliation Rowan goes through bruh.

I genuinely can't think of a way to make it feel rewarding enough for how unpleasant most of the game has been even with NTR turned off.

Like damn, most of the inspirations behind this game are powerfantasies at the end of the day. The only thing this game has in common with them is the fact that it's grimdark. It's not a powerfantasy in the slightest and it's easy to see why people get the wrong expectations when they read the overview.

"It's not a powerfantasy in the slightest"?
sure rowan isn't going to dominate the twins as soon as he arrives in the castle and they generally make his life hard. but no powerfantasy?
he is simultaneously the best strategist, has an unbending will to surpass a master sorceress's magic while also attracting interdimensional beings with it, can control sex demons with his sexual prowess, has far reaching influence over nobles and peasants alike, is the most skilled non-magic user to ever exist, is the most valuable asset in the entire chaos faction, and is able to run a small government without the access to excel (who knows, maybe luirial is the magic equivalent to excel )
oh, and before i forget he still finds time to fuck constantly!

and you think rowan isn't overpowered like a gary-stu?

Thanks!
In this case, if I don't invite Helanya to my room, can I still make progress with her? Or does this close her path?

since you want to avoid andras ntr: you should DEFINITELY "invite" her into your room. there is no non-ntr progress with helayna if you don't claim her! (at least if you consider helayna being used as communal fuckdoll as ntr).

besides claiming helayna isn't that bad to alexia's relationship if you tell alexia rowan couldn’t stop himself. and you lose on one scene with alexia in total only.

as for alexia scenes in general, you get certain scenes depending on her corruption level and current time. my advice is to have a relative pure alexia in early game (till around week 40) and then amp up the corruption afterwards (with events like fertility treatment for example). other than that, just have her relationship points high at all times.

 

[nejfan]

"It's not a powerfantasy in the slightest"?
sure rowan isn't going to dominate the twins as soon as he arrives in the castle and they generally make his life hard. but no powerfantasy?
he is simultaneously the best strategist, has an unbending will to surpass a master sorceress's magic while also attracting interdimensional beings with it, can control sex demons with his sexual prowess, has far reaching influence over nobles and peasants alike, is the most skilled non-magic user to ever exist, is the most valuable asset in the entire chaos faction, and is able to run a small government without the access to excel (who knows, maybe luirial is the magic equivalent to excel )
oh, and before i forget he still finds time to fuck constantly!

and you think rowan isn't overpowered like a gary-stu?

since you want to avoid andras ntr: you should DEFINITELY "invite" her into your room. there is no non-ntr progress with helayna if you don't claim her! (at least if you consider helayna being used as communal fuckdoll as ntr).

besides claiming helayna isn't that bad to alexia's relationship if you tell alexia rowan couldn’t stop himself. and you lose on one scene with alexia in total only.

as for alexia scenes in general, you get certain scenes depending on her corruption level and current time. my advice is to have a relative pure alexia in early game (till around week 40) and then amp up the corruption afterwards (with events like fertility treatment for example). other than that, just have her relationship points high at all times.

All these things sound good on paper but the execution of the character himself together with the general feel of the game makes it all for nothing lol.

There's a reason people like Geralt and Guts, or the extremely punishing Fromsoft games (beating bosses make you feel like a god).

Rowan feels like a pleb compared to them ngl, all his achievements feel empty because of the devs fixation on killing all of his agency and catering so much of their budget/time to making him a cuck/victim.

I'd genuinely be surprised if there's anyone who still plays this exclusively for a dom experience at this point. No way bruh.

 

[T4t0rt]

Guys, quick question: can i claim Helayna and keep being in good terms with Alexia?

 

[Deleted member 7872389]

Oh, the Helayniacs are gonna love that one!

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[Nym85]

Guys, quick question: can i claim Helayna and keep being in good terms with Alexia?

I think you can since I am sure there is an actual threesome scene but I'd also love a guide on how you can get there.
Or if anyone knows what that threesome scene is called, I can decompile and check the requirements myself

Honestly a Dark Knight Helayna/Corrupt but loyal Alexia seem like the best outcome if you are trying for a Dark Lord Rowan route.

 

[T4t0rt]

What i'm really wondering is....

...if there will be a chance to counter-"corrupt" Jezera, and make her Rowan's bitch.

Maybe in the future updates.

 

[Christ P Bacon]

The game should have definite character height for each npc. Helayna art are often inconsistent in each scene, she can looks rather tall in one, and short in other

 

[Christ P Bacon]

What i'm really wondering is....

...if there will be a chance to counter-"corrupt" Jezera, and make her Rowan's bitch.

Maybe in the future updates.

And by future you means 5 years from now because how slow the game progression is

 

[Rein]

The game should have definite character height for each npc. Helayna art are often inconsistent in each scene, she can looks rather tall in one, and short in other

Oh it's much worse than that.

 

[Pipols]

I tried playing on NTR, you'll see when the person that is cuckolded deserves it, that's when I enjoy NTR, bad people reaping what they sowed, instead with these 2 lovebirds I played the whole game vanilla style, the demons are too bad people and we are prisoners. Under NO CIRCUMSTANCES neither of the 2 deserves to be cucked, I'll wait for more vanilla content, good game

 

[Goblin Bastard]

Oh it's much worse than that.

What is in the water at bloodmein, their tits just keep inflating year on yea.

 

[Shaska]

There's a reason people like Geralt and Guts

I thought people like Geralt and Guts because of their whole "struggle against fate itself with my human, mortal hands", but I guess if one has mentality of a rock, they would prefer big man swinging big sword over a story about soldiering on despite losing your loved ones and growing as a person in spite of world trying to break you.

 

[Ataman87]

Are there any plans for continuing or at least restoring Greyhide contend , like a non patreon version or something ? Or at least some patch to restore it ?

 

[Kisama33]

Are there any plans for continuing or at least restoring Greyhide contend , like a non patreon version or something ? Or at least some patch to restore it ?

The Subscriber version of the game still contains the removed content (Steam version probably too) it's only the Patreon version that got affected.

Now what that will mean when it comes to future content I don't know.

 

[Deleted member 7872389]

Still the best Redhead.

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[dhuemnptai]

Still the best Redhead.

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I don't see Alexia there...

 

[Oriandu]

And by future you means 5 years from now because how slow the game progression is

And by five years from now you actually mean at least ten years from now because Rowan taking any sort of dominant position over one of the twins is endgame content and this is supposed to be a trilogy.