Retromancer
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Is this even possible? I thought during the first choice between Andras and Jezera you have to choose one or you get killed. Maybe I'm mixing things up.
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It might have changed now (haven't played the prologue in aeons) but I seem to remember you can decide not to service either of them (also because SoC is built to have a completely sexless playthrough as well iirc).
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Being coerced, or otherwise forced, into something isn't cheating, is it?
Like say, a rapist breaks into someone's home while the husband is deployed overseas and proceeds to rape the wife, then would that be considered cheating? I think not. In a similar way, I think that standard applies here, yes no?
Like say, a rapist breaks into someone's home while the husband is deployed overseas and proceeds to rape the wife, then would that be considered cheating? I think not. In a similar way, I think that standard applies here, yes no?
BeLikeWater
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LuminaJR
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i'll play as rowan if need be although This game has Both Male and female Protagonist Tags
it usually means that we should be able to play as a Guy or a girl
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So this was just not what you were expecting then, I see. Btw in case you don't know, the tag still works since Alexia is a main character.
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Ironically, that example you listed wasn't written by me or Rein. HookedOnPheonix wrote that scene. He does the Fet stuff in general. Nice dude.
Here, for future refrence.
The Game's Currenty Active Staff and What They Actually Do:
Arioch: God King Emperor. Payer of Bills and receiver of Internet trolling. He's largely hands off from the writing, but he writes some of the Greyhide and Andras content, sets directives and objectives, enforces deadlines, and does the bulk of the coding. Also marketing, general management, and overall business side work.
Yron: General writing notes, Business Advice, and I believe some help tech side.
Sommelier: Makes all the backgrounds, gameplay maps, and some of the CGs. Also is the go between among the artists to make sure everything runs smoothly.
Keidi: Sprite artist.
MDN: General CG art.
T51bWinterized: Plot writing and Maledom specialist. I work on Rastedel, Helayna, Liurial, Indarah, some of the Jezera/Alexia, and some of the general/ruler/map events. Also wrote a large chunk of Orciad.
Rein: General Writing, Game Design, and "Weirdshit" Specialist. Working on Goblin Quest, Transformation Content, and subsections of the Rastedel narrative. Writes Cla-Min, The Succubus, Cliohna, Some of the NTR material, some of the Alexia/Jezera material, and some of the M/M material.
HookedOnPheonix: Fey narrative specific writing. If it has to do with the Fey narrative, it came from him.
DarkMaster: Lore Master, Game Designer, Former Lead Writer. Much of the lore and early writing was him. Because of personal reasons he only writes the odd scene now, but he still does lots of behind the scenes narrative and lore work.
There. Now no one needs to get confused who is doing what.
Hello sorry to bother everyone but Im a bit lost. After the capture of the fort and the reward ceremony what exactly am I meant to do? I can't seem to find a new region or the whole goblin tribe that the twins mentioned. Can anyone help.
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I just recently found this game I have to say, damn this game is really good, probably one the very few games I am really looking forward to the future content and direction. Especially the art style, hope someone will come up with a guide for how to proceed / mechanics of the game. I am aware that there's already a scene cheat sheet but it only gives you a small summary of when this scene happens but not what other conditions need to be met. Many of the ruler based events seem RNG based but I can't be sure. For example, what are the benefits of exploring/ are there any drawbacks? if exploring new area add more into the "pool" of ruler events that can trigger is it better not to explore and unlock the current all CG before proceeding to the next segments? and other similar queries in terms of how to "proceed" with the events. Of course this very much a "completionist" mindset, in terms of normal gameplay, I am not if I have had much progress as after Storming the Heleyna Keep, it seems like a sandbox mode (again I am sure if it is meant this way or I have goofed up), the current goal shows nothing which makes it even harder to understand what I am supposed to be doing. I kept dying on week 60 because I wasn't sure what I was expected to do next until I found out I needed to recruit the orcs (This being added in the Current goals in throne room would be an easy headache avoided).
Disclaimer: These are not in any way me demeriting the game, as I have claimed earlier this is one the best/well-refined games I have played and I can't wait for what you guys will be adding into the next update. I have 0 complains about the content and narrative of the game its a cut above the rest, but small things that would be closer to Quality of Life update, like a "history" button for conversations (shows maybe the last 10 dialogues, mostly VNs have it) would be great in those cases of double clicks and missed out on a dialogue.
PS: God damn Alexia (the wife) is such a damn well-drawn character, absolutely had to have NTR content on so I don't miss out of all her scene. That red head can't get enough of that red dick.
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@T51bwinterized are we ever getting a scene, like the one with the naked orc in the tavern and alexia ''helping'' him in another way ?
mightlemon
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Hey guys, i can't seem to make the knights x helayna blowbang scene happen?? When I do the raid on raeve keep theres no option to watch the knights gangbang helayna. Only the choice to watch the orcs gangbang/fuck helayna/ refuse
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"Being coerced or forced into something isn't cheating."
(The actual point of that post; the rest of it is to initiate a response.)
As a quick out-of-game example, a group of armed thugs takes a loving couple hostage. It is evident that the thugs will kill the couple immediately and have the power to do so unless each of them complies to have sex with a thug. That shouldn't be considered cheating.
Remember, that one of the paths in the game (although, admittedly, it has yet to be developed more thoroughly) is that both Rowan and Alexia can remain absolutely and resolutely faithful to one another and try to find ways to overthrow their demonic patrons. After all, the hero and the wife suffered horribly including losing people that they cared for when their home was destroyed. This atrocity was specifically engineered by the demonic twins for the singular purpose of bringing Rowan into the fold.
But you're right (@Haise01), what they do afterwards can morph into cheating if they will themselves into it (without being coerced into it) by either giving into temptations or by deliberately seeking it by finding a different partner or other participants. As an aside, the couple at this point in the game[1] they have been under their patrons thumbs for over a year (after map exploration events). (@T51bwinterized @Rein) I'd like to see some forward movement with player input in how the two can/are resist/resisting their demonic overlords in all honesty. [1] At least from when the version I last played back in 2017, I believe.
Regarding the army numbers, I always imagine them representing "units" and not individuals, because, like you, a handful of orcs or whatever seems a bit lowball for an EMPIRE. Right?
Edit: Changed "bring down" to "overthrow" and corrected a typo, but more importantly, I just wanted to state that I wasn't calling out Haise. I just wanted to clarify a point. *Fistbumps* Meant it in a cool fashion. ;]
(The actual point of that post; the rest of it is to initiate a response.)
No. They did not. The topic of the conversation went:
Scotsbits - "What effects does it have on the story if Rowan never cheats buts his wife does?"
(Rein - At the moment none...)
Retromancer - "Is this even possible? I thought during the first choice between Andras and Jezera you have to choose one or you get killed. Maybe I'm mixing things up."
TheMagister - "It might have changed now (haven't played the prologue in aeons) but I seem to remember you can decide not to service either of them (also because SoC is built to have a completely sexless playthrough as well iirc)."
Thus, we were discussing the initial, dire circumstances that the pair were thrust into. As an act to be faithful and help one another, they each chose certain actions in an extraordinary situation under the demons' machinations.As a quick out-of-game example, a group of armed thugs takes a loving couple hostage. It is evident that the thugs will kill the couple immediately and have the power to do so unless each of them complies to have sex with a thug. That shouldn't be considered cheating.
Remember, that one of the paths in the game (although, admittedly, it has yet to be developed more thoroughly) is that both Rowan and Alexia can remain absolutely and resolutely faithful to one another and try to find ways to overthrow their demonic patrons. After all, the hero and the wife suffered horribly including losing people that they cared for when their home was destroyed. This atrocity was specifically engineered by the demonic twins for the singular purpose of bringing Rowan into the fold.
But you're right (@Haise01), what they do afterwards can morph into cheating if they will themselves into it (without being coerced into it) by either giving into temptations or by deliberately seeking it by finding a different partner or other participants. As an aside, the couple at this point in the game[1] they have been under their patrons thumbs for over a year (after map exploration events). (@T51bwinterized @Rein) I'd like to see some forward movement with player input in how the two can/are resist/resisting their demonic overlords in all honesty. [1] At least from when the version I last played back in 2017, I believe.
Yes. Yes, he is. So much so that even the Demonic Twins, despite all their powers and intelligent and strength, went out of their goddamn way to "recruit" the Hero. They know value when they see it.
Search around the NW (upper left side) of the exploration map to trigger the Orc events (initated by a random event after getting through where you are in the game). Here's my disclaimer, I haven't played through this one myself yet since I'm many version behind, but if you don't wrap these events up, then it'll eventually will lead to a game over as your military strength will not be sufficient enough. By week 60, iirc.
They are. Also, I don't think you need to worry about pacing yourself thinking that you'll skip over something by exploring around. In fact, you need to explore around to trigger many of the events due to the RNG nature of it. The RNG isn't too bad either. I read, once upon a time, that the team modified it so that if you haven't seen something in a while the chances of something triggering becomes greater over time.
I see you're a person of such class to recognize exquisite tastes. Rowan had his pick of women from around the Realms, yet he pursues after Alexia and she welcomes this. They chose one another. Despite her social class, she is simply divine--even the Twins comes around in seeing something special in her that is not readily evident on the surface. How will such influences from Rowan, the Twins, or even being at the seat of a resurrected, fledgling empire mold her essence, I wonder...
I agree! Alexia and Helayna are indeed awesome! Did you know that Hel was originally going to be a minor character but the fans of the game loved her so much that she acquired much more content than initially planned? That's damn awesome. I remember the first time they revealed her character sprite/art piece. Bloody aweome.
Regarding the army numbers, I always imagine them representing "units" and not individuals, because, like you, a handful of orcs or whatever seems a bit lowball for an EMPIRE. Right?
*Scratches head* Let's see (and I'm going off by my faulty memory here), one of the consequences of her escaping is that you'll net a few items and a couple of potions, iirc and not confusing it with another game, along with a promise of aid in bringing down the Twins later in the game (which is, of course, not yet implemented). If Alexia helps her and Helayna fails to escape, then she gets thrown into the dungeons under the care Andras and a certain creature--there are CGs for those! If Rowan helps and fails, I think he gets punished by whichever Twin he works more closely with... *Shrugs* I'm not really sure; I just can't explicitly remember what the team or other users have said about that.
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Edit: Changed "bring down" to "overthrow" and corrected a typo, but more importantly, I just wanted to state that I wasn't calling out Haise. I just wanted to clarify a point. *Fistbumps* Meant it in a cool fashion. ;]
The knights scene requires you to have infiltrated rather than straight up conquered the Keep. You'd have to research Opulence and Dark Subterfuge, build the brothel, recruit an incubus/succubus as a spy and then send them to infiltrate the Keep. Since you've only got a short time for Raeve Keep as opposed to the next plot arc (20 weeks as opposed to 40) and the brothel's expensive, I'm given to understand it's hard to accomplish.