Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.10] [Vénus Noire]

[rmatty111]

See a lot of comments on NTR, is this mostly a NTR game or is there plenty of non-ntr content?

I'd say there is a healthy split - you also have a good amount of control over what content you see.

 

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*Dev's incoherent milking*

 

[maroder]

I'd say there is a healthy split - you also have a good amount of control over what content you see.

Depends how you define NTR
there are kind of 2 MC and they are married. if you think male mc having sex out side of wife then Most of game is ntr but most people dont think so. but generally male mc has something like 70% of scenes and female 30% these is very rough numbers

 

[wei270]

did you guys start working on part 2? i think if you didn't you could do part 2 while tryinig to finish part 1 concurrently

 

[EvolutionKills]

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Okay. Let's do the math. August 2016 to May 2025 is 105 months. The latest version I have on my hard drive that I can quickly look up is v0.4.08, which is 2 version old at this point. Even then the scene gallery has 262 scenes. At least 42 of those scenes have at least 2 alternate versions, with some scenes having upwards of 3, 4, or even 6 versions. Most other scenes will still have minor variations depending on smaller choices and the corruption level of the characters involved, but aren't as dramatic as having either a straight or gay scene choice.

Still, even with that truncated amount based on an older out of date build, that's still 2.495 scenes per month. Again, keep in mind that the more recent builds will have more scenes and would skew that number even higher. That's still ~2.5 scenes per month with bespoke artwork (often multiple pieces too), some of it even animated. On top of that they're incorporating all of them into a very choice dependent RPG sandbox, so keeping track of the literally hundreds of different choices and event flags has to be a nightmare. I'm not saying the devs couldn't do better, and perhaps were overly ambitious with their overarching story plans. But given the sheer amount of top-quality content on offer, trying to take pot shots at them for 'miking' is being disingenuous.

Or in other words, it's a real lazy and ignorant take to try and lambast a team that has a nearly decade long track record of delivering solid content.

 

[NewTricks]

See a lot of comments on NTR, is this mostly a NTR game or is there plenty of non-ntr content?

The NTR pretty much only occurs if you allow it. Some of the decisions to avoid NTR are tough to take, though. I would say that there is an abundance of content that has little or nothing to do with NTR, although Alexia would probably disagree with me because her husband has a wandering dick and will fuck anything.

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

Okay. Let's do the math. August 2016 to May 2025 is 105 months. The latest version I have on my hard drive that I can quickly look up is v0.4.08, which is 2 version old at this point. Even then the scene gallery has 262 scenes. At least 42 of those scenes have at least 2 alternate versions, with some scenes having upwards of 3, 4, or even 6 versions. Most other scenes will still have minor variations depending on smaller choices and the corruption level of the characters involved, but aren't as dramatic as having either a straight or gay scene choice.

Still, even with that truncated amount based on an older out of date build, that's still 2.495 scenes per month. Again, keep in mind that the more recent builds will have more scenes and would skew that number even higher. That's still ~2.5 scenes per month with bespoke artwork, some of it even animated. On top of that they're incorporating all of them into a very choice dependent RPG sandbox, so keeping track of the literally hundreds of different choices and event flags has to be a nightmare. I'm not saying the devs couldn't do better, and perhaps were overly ambitious with their overarching story plans. But given the sheer amount of top-quality content on offer, trying to take pot shots at them for 'miking' is being disingenuous.

Or in other words, it's a real lazy and ignorant take to try and lambast a team that has a nearly decade long track record of delivering solid content.

Ain't most of the comments of milking, having to do with story progression? I mean there's one consistent keyword you rely on.

scene

I'm not around all that often. But I can't recall folks complaining all that much about the porn part of this porn game... I mean unless it's complaints about the abundance of NTR with wife and demon boi . Or like something being removed. It typically from what I can remember. Had to do with the game part of the porn game. The story and it's progression. So your point is kinda moot if they ain't talking about it.

 

[EvolutionKills]

Ain't most of the comments of milking, having to do with story progression? I mean there's one consistent keyword you rely on.


I'm not around all that often. But I can't recall folks complaining all that much about the porn part of this porn game... I mean unless it's complaints about the abundance of NTR with wife and demon boi . Or like something being removed. It typically from what I can remember. Had to do with the game part of the porn game. The story and it's progression. So your point is kinda moot if they ain't talking about it.

I assumed that someone only posting cringe Vince McMahon memes isn't lambasting the game for a lack of story progression...

 

[k2ren]

so where to see the current v0.4.10 version's changelog?

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

I assumed that someone only posting cringe Vince McMahon memes isn't lambasting the game for a lack of story progression...

Yea... that's probably just random shit post for quick likes or something. I was just speaking more in general on the topic. And what I've seen when it comes to complaints involving milking. No all ofc, but a lot. I mean I'm one of those rare degens. That holds a cardinal sin hot take.

Hold on, let me make sure nobody watching while I say this...

but ahem.... I think it's ok to sideline the porn for the game/story parts. And this game among some others I've played. Would (in MY OPINION) still be good, even if the poon took a backseat.

I know, I know, I'm saying some crazy ish right now. Maybe even a little bit blasphemous. Don't hit and forsake me! But I imagine if anyone who is supporting, holds similar views. I mean... you could say they getting squeezed. But at the same time. I also like to imagine that most people still paying. Are more or less ok with how it's going. The way some folks be talking about milking. Would swear the supporters had a gun to their heads. But it all is what it is.

 

[Overlord070]

The NTR pretty much only occurs if you allow it. Some of the decisions to avoid NTR are tough to take, though. I would say that there is an abundance of content that has little or nothing to do with NTR, although Alexia would probably disagree with me because her husband has a wandering dick and will fuck anything.

What tough decisions do you have to take?
I don't mind spoilers.

 

[Big Green]

See a lot of comments on NTR, is this mostly a NTR game or is there plenty of non-ntr content?

The game is heavy NTR themed. Be it a guy cheating on his wife or vice versa. If you skip all the cheating interactions, then a huge chank of the game will be SFW lol. But even if you can 'prevent' it, in the end it will look stupid and unrealistic.

 

[Orez81]

Ain't most of the comments of milking, having to do with story progression? I mean there's one consistent keyword you rely on.


I'm not around all that often. But I can't recall folks complaining all that much about the porn part of this porn game... I mean unless it's complaints about the abundance of NTR with wife and demon boi . Or like something being removed. It typically from what I can remember. Had to do with the game part of the porn game. The story and it's progression. So your point is kinda moot if they ain't talking about it.

Honestly your entire post is complete garbage, The game has been in development for almost 10 years and is till not done, no where to be close to be done I don't care how many scenes are there I want a finished product. His post stating the the dev is milking it is true.

 

[Remiss]

What's new?

 

[Birdnman993]

Okay. Let's do the math. August 2016 to May 2025 is 105 months.

What really freaks me out isn't the 9 years of development, but the fact that this is only the first of three acts!!! AND THE FIRST ISN'T EVEN FINISHED!!!

It's already been said that the other two will take less time to develop, but really? At this stage of life, that's putting too much trust in anyone.

 

[Akabakka]

Or in other words, it's a real lazy and ignorant take to try and lambast a team that has a nearly decade long track record of delivering solid content.

Let's be candid, while they still at least delivered some "solid" content over the last years... many end users won't care and only notice that the story is at a full stop, hasn't made any meaningful progress in a long time. Or that they kept teasing some alternative route (the Astarte one i believe) that only exists in name. I can't blame those people for feeling that way.

After all this time, you can't even reap the benefits of doing the siege with drastically different choices... so far it goes to the same conclusion and then you get some morsel of side stuff every once in a while

 

[kaspqz]

my sad attempt of the replay mod for 0.4.06 created 256,257,258,259,260 plus added to 235, 250 and 254 their newly added cgs, probably missing some variables here and there but most of the new stuff is visible and i am not providing full info like opaquecake is am not fully sure how he was spreading them so they won't work too well with the sorting

260 was part of a big event so i left a small part of it where the cgs are found

let me know how it works as it's first time when i try doing this and might fail hard
l.e. swapped them on 26.08 with a version with a bit more info for the mod filtering
l.e.2: for instalation copy to the game folder, as described by opaquecake
l.e.3: for version 0.4.08 you have the above link by opaquecake, added this edit as this is still the pinned message
link for 0.4.07
link for 0.4.09
l.e: seems that from 0.4.10 the game comes with updated mod so i will go and retire somewhere

Spoiler: Changelog 0.4.06 mod

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Don't retire yet, just in case

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

Honestly your entire post is complete garbage, The game has been in development for almost 10 years and is till not done, no where to be close to be done I don't care how many scenes are there I want a finished product. His post stating the the dev is milking it is true.

Think you might've misquoted there my guy because uh.... I don't know what this got to do with me.

 

[TheDisgracedOne]

At some point i hope we will see a jezera and rowan vs alexia and andras, where the player would only be able to chose one team to play, and multiple difficult choices would lead to the victory of one team or the other

 

[KR1SS L34L]

hmm did Rowan x Andras have something new in this update or is it still Andras x Alexia and Rowan x Jerezza??