Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.10] [Vénus Noire]

[PPE2RedDucks]

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I mean, the whole point of the game is reading the story (as modified by the choices you're making), and yes, you have to keep hitting the mouse button/space bar to get through that. I can understand not being into parts of the story, but if all you want is sex scenes without any context, you might be better off with non-game porn? Movies, erotica, comics, take your pick, there isn't really any shortage of porn media that only feature "payoff," but games aren't really suited to that due to the interactivity.

That said, you can set the skip function to skip text you haven't seen before in the options menu (by default, it only skips text you have seen before), though you may not be able to figure out what choices to make to get the scenes you want without the context.

Paragraph 1: Not really. That's a parody. "No context" in particular is way off my point.

I raised an issue about lots of clicks (of not always riveting dialog, punctuated with the odd quick flash of sword-and-axe) to get to more gripping images, charged events, ... excitement. Given that the actual tension in the story appears to rest in personal vulnerability, traps, sexual & emotional manipulation, fear, exhilaration, dread - or at least, that seems the strength of it, to me - it might be good if more of that was vividly on show.

Sex in fantasy often includes as lot of the above.

Good tip about customizing the skip function.

But I was well aware, if the design of a particular game means "skipping" makes you whisk through (say) 100 boxes before the next crossroads/decision, you're likely to miss the point of the decision, - and probably miss out much of the game, too.

Personally, I'd actually prefer it if the script itself was a bit tighter, more enthralling in itself, e.g. a bit less on the lines of "When I was a lad, ...." and general moans of foreboding ("Seven Samurai" scenario without the vitality), maybe not as many boxes lined up in series (double up 2 dialogs in one box sometimes?), less toggling between repeated images, and ..... a bit more "life" in the dialogs.

But hey, as I said at the start, entirely a point of view. I gave praise where I thought it was due. In that context - and very much with context - criticism is not necessarily a bad thing. Or maybe you think different?

 

[UncleVT]

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Hello everyone,

Just the usual pre-release update, to let you know things are going well, and the new build should be with you by Sunday at the latest.

The poll results have been collected and counted, and the three winners for next month, in order, are:

Rowan x Alexia x Luirial CG #2
Jezera x Alexia
Batri x Delane CG #2

Finally, here's the reveal for the newest character sprite from Keidi. Unfortunately I'm not allowed to tell you anything about him, even his name, or Winter will whine at me, so feel free to ponder away

 

[diebesgrab]

Excuse me, she has more scenes with Andras then Rowan.

Perhaps you could point them out? As I recall, other than the two penetrative sex scenes I already mentioned, there's a dancing and handjob scene, a handjob and titjob scene, a handjob and blowjob scene, and an intercrural sex scene. There's also a scene where Andras drinks from a glass held between Alexia's tits, if you want to count that.

With Rowan, I can remember 6 penetrative sex scenes: the intro, upon reuniting, a morning sex scene, the picnic scene, a threesome with Liurial, and a threesome with X'zaratl. Additionally, I can recall a scene of her as a futa topping Rowan, a BDSM scene where she dominates Rowan, a scene where she gets off on getting whipped by Rowan, and a sexual cuddling scene after that where Rowan again brings her to orgasm. Again, that's just what I can remember after having not really played the game in close to a month. If there are any I've missed, please list them.

Paragraph 1: Not really. That's a parody. "No context" in particular is way off my point.

I raised an issue about lots of clicks (of not always riveting dialog, punctuated with the odd quick flash of sword-and-axe) to get to more gripping images, charged events, ... excitement. Given that the actual tension in the story appears to rest in personal vulnerability, traps, sexual & emotional manipulation, fear, exhilaration, dread - or at least, that seems the strength of it, to me - it might be good if more of that was vividly on show.

Sex in fantasy often includes as lot of the above.

Good tip about customizing the skip function.

But I was well aware, if the design of a particular game means "skipping" makes you whisk through (say) 100 boxes before the next crossroads/decision, you're likely to miss the point of the decision, - and probably miss out much of the game, too.

Personally, I'd actually prefer it if the script itself was a bit tighter, more enthralling in itself, e.g. a bit less on the lines of "When I was a lad, ...." and general moans of foreboding ("Seven Samurai" scenario without the vitality), maybe not as many boxes lined up in series (double up 2 dialogs in one box sometimes?), less toggling between repeated images, and ..... a bit more "life" in the dialogs.

But hey, as I said at the start, entirely a point of view. I gave praise where I thought it was due. In that context - and very much with context - criticism is not necessarily a bad thing. Or maybe you think different?

I apologize if I came off as abrupt, I was making an honest suggestion. Your posts seemed to indicate your main issue so far was trudging through the narrative, which I can understand—many people who try VNs (porn or not) expecting immediate payoff wind up frustrated with that same issue. It's not a problem with them, just one of their expectations not matching the content.

From what I've been able to glean from your posts, it seems like you're either still in or not far past the intro? If so, I recommend getting a bit further before you start making judgments based on what you've seen so far; the intro spends most of its time setting up the world and premise, and as a result it's pretty dry. I haven't really read it since the first time I played the game a few months ago, but I feel like it's not the best representation of the tone of the sexual content based on what I can recall.

 

[RedPillBlues]

Perhaps you could point them out? As I recall, other than the two penetrative sex scenes I already mentioned, there's a dancing and handjob scene, a handjob and titjob scene, a handjob and blowjob scene, and an intercrural sex scene. There's also a scene where Andras drinks from a glass held between Alexia's tits, if you want to count that.

With Rowan, I can remember 6 penetrative sex scenes: the intro, upon reuniting, a morning sex scene, the picnic scene, a threesome with Liurial, and a threesome with X'zaratl. Additionally, I can recall a scene of her as a futa topping Rowan, a BDSM scene where she dominates Rowan, a scene where she gets off on getting whipped by Rowan, and a sexual cuddling scene after that where Rowan again brings her to orgasm. Again, that's just what I can remember after having not really played the game in close to a month. If there are any I've missed, please list them.

I just extracted the CG's and looked since I cant warrant another playthrough of the game but if you do count futa, and bdsm it is pretty even. However I gotta say, compared to all the other scenes in the game Rowans are so neglected. My man has multiple 1CG and 2CG scenes, but most of the rest of the game is 3+. It makes you wonder why they cut so many corners with him, at least with the straight stuff. Never really noticed this until now, I guess its because I play without ntr. Thinking about it though its probably because of the change they did recently.

 

[T51bwinterized]

Our current directive is to cut down on the number of 3 CG scenes in order to make sure we can develop at a good clip. Rowan's scene count has lately been on the rise. Thus he has less 3CG scenes.

 

[RedPillBlues]

Our current directive is to cut down on the number of 3 CG scenes in order to make sure we can develop at a good clip. Rowan's scene count has lately been on the rise. Thus he has less 3CG scenes.

That makes a lot of sense. I do feel like anything under 3 leaves a lot to be desired, but when you have to catch up as much as this game does its understandable. Hopefully at the very least they all get cumming Cg's.

 

[T51bwinterized]

We normally do that with a variant. It's a lot more economical to do it that way.

 

[Hekzow]

That makes a lot of sense. I do feel like anything under 3 leaves a lot to be desired, but when you have to catch up as much as this game does its understandable. Hopefully at the very least they all get cumming Cg's.

The only reason anything under 3 laves a lot to be desired is because the scenes were originally written to have 3 cgs. It's fine for a scene to have one cg if written accordingly. It's just that here it's always switching positions and stuff.
I'd also like you to know that I audibly laughed after looking at your avatar.

 

[TheSexinati]

In other news: I was looking through Longsword treatises the other day, and found one that looked somewhat reminiscent to this...



From a manual by Paulus Hector Mair in the 1500's.



Writing in the page:
A High Hanging from both Sides

When you come to the closing with the opponent, stand with your right foot forward and hold your sword on your right side with your hilt in front of your head (as in illustration). Follow outward with your left leg and wind your point into his face with crossed hands out of the Hanging.

If he winds the point towards your face like this and you likewise stand opposite him in the Hanging with your right set forward, then follow outward with your left leg and shove out into the winding with the long edge to your right side with crossed hands. Let the weak of your sword run and strike him high. If he displaces this, then Zwirch to his right side. If he displaces this as well, then follow outward with your right leg and Zwirch to the left side of his head.

If he Zwirches towards you on both sides like this, then set the Krump on his sword and cut to his head.

The only difference between the two though, seems to be in the hand positions. I would wager that Rowan's would be more awkward to use efficiently because of how his hands are orientated on the handle, though this could be due to the angle of the image. You can see the 'L' in the right arm, but you cannot see the 'L' in the left arm over the head like in the manual.

Still, I thought it would be pretty cool to share.

Edit: And another image, which looks more like Rowan's stance.

 

[PPE2RedDucks]

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I apologize if I came off as abrupt, I was making an honest suggestion. Your posts seemed to indicate your main issue so far was trudging through the narrative, which I can understand—many people who try VNs (porn or not) expecting immediate payoff wind up frustrated with that same issue. It's not a problem with them, just one of their expectations not matching the content.

From what I've been able to glean from your posts, it seems like you're either still in or not far past the intro? If so, I recommend getting a bit further before you start making judgments based on what you've seen so far; the intro spends most of its time setting up the world and premise, and as a result it's pretty dry. I haven't really read it since the first time I played the game a few months ago, but I feel like it's not the best representation of the tone of the sexual content based on what I can recall.

Fair enough (on the first para). You did come across as pretty sarcastic. If that was unintentional, apols from me too for taking it that way.

I'm not naive about VNs, or virtual games either. Or lacking patience, forbearance (now there's a nice word - where did that come from??). In other words, I don't expect (or want) "Wham Bam, Thank You Mam" ...

On your second Para: I entirely accept that. And accepted it in both posts before I got derailed by what looked like an attack from you. Early days, etc. ... As I said at the time, it just took what seemed ages to develop. And yes, as you say (as imply), games - or visual & virtual novels - can get very slowed down by a slow-moving Intro. And then to get into gear, get some speed up, in the story itself. That was ... sort of my point!

All good I hope.

I wouldn't have raised the particular point about lots of clicking and slow development if I hadn't & didn't find a lot to praise in the work. See my first post ... I'd have just bailed out.

 

[SpoiledPrince]

I'm utterly happy to see they haven't forgotten about cute little Draith and we're getting more of him (and Andras) in the new update! As a fan of m/m domination this has me giggling in anticipation. I'm also hoping for some drider fun in the future for both the dark elf and Alexia I love your brand of spider-men! lol

 

[T51bwinterized]

We want to do more with the M/M content, and we're hoping for development on that front soon. Right now we've got a potential M/M writer for the game in training.

 

[AidsDelivered]

and an intercrural sex scene.

where ? :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[AidsDelivered]

@T51bwinterized when do you plan on bringing in more ntr with other characters like for example orc-soldiers or the wolfman or so ?

 

[T51bwinterized]

Not especially? There may be broader "sharing" scenes I the game, but by in large we think about NTR content in terms of plot threads as opposed to one offs.

We could have her fuck everything that moves in the castle, but that's not a good use of our time. Real storylines are.

 

[ozzo]

Will we have to choose one of the twins for Alexia?
The big scene with her and Jezera made me fee likel Jezera is trying to turn her into a woman who takes what she wants.
(A controlable Cliohna i guess considering her newfound magic powers)

And what ive seen so far from Andras i feel he prefers do dominate anything he sticks his dick in.

 

[T51bwinterized]

Yeah. They're not always inclined to sharing their toys and they have their own visions for Alexia's future.

 

[mightlemon]

hope that they will be more ntr with girls other than alexia, e.g. helayna or the elf girl that seduces the mc.

hope i’d see greyhide x helayna in the future sometime

 

[diebesgrab]

where ? :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Like I said, it's been a few weeks since I last went through most of the content, so I could be misremembering, but I was referring to the scene between Alexia and Andras right after Alexia confronts Rowan about claiming Helayna. I may have used the wrong word, too; the way I remember that scene, it's more they grind their genitals together non-penetratively than that he's rubbing between her thighs. I'm not entirely sure what the correct term for that would be in a het pairing—I mean, between two guys it's frotting, and two girls is tribadism, but what do you call mutual genital rubbing between a man and a woman when it doesn't involve the thighs? Does it still count as intercrural?

 

[SpoiledPrince]

Will we have to choose one of the twins for Alexia?
The big scene with her and Jezera made me fee likel Jezera is trying to turn her into a woman who takes what she wants.
(A controlable Cliohna i guess considering her newfound magic powers)

And what ive seen so far from Andras i feel he prefers do dominate anything he sticks his dick in.

And we love him for that