RedPillBlues

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When making a virtual novel, there are major genres and target audiences to consider (open to correction):

a. Harem
b. Netorare
c. Femdom
d. Gay

(Incest & corruption fits within the scope of any of the above genres. Netorare and Femdom can intertwine.)

I think if you try to cater to all the above genres, you might fail to give the harem crowd an update, then the next month you might fail to give the femdom crowd an update, then next month maybe you fail to give the netorare crowd an update, or the gay crowd an update. So patrons will have to wait every other update to get the content they want.

I think Seeds of Chaos is suffering from this problem, I could be wrong, what does everyone else think?
Yeah you're missing a lot of fetishes between Harem and ntr, thats a huge jump in popularity.
 
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spitfire335

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This is my point. You may have to wait months and months before you'll ever see that.
I know and I have. The last X'Zaratl scene was about a year ago. Still I have a lot of other characters to play around with. Even if I have to wait for scenes with one character, likely there is something else for me to enjoy. It's not just ntr everywhere. If it was I wouldn't be playing the game at all. I support the game because it is growing at a good pace for me.
 
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05841035411

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This is my point. You may have to wait months and months before you'll ever see that.
...If anything were to be dropped, wouldn't X'Zaratl pretty much be at the top of the list? She's probably the most wholesome character in the game, but in terms of plot relevance, she's more or less last amongst the characters - it's a close match between her and the drow boy.
 

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When making a virtual novel, there are major genres and target audiences to consider (open to correction):

a. Harem
b. Netorare
c. Femdom
d. Gay

(Incest & corruption fits within the scope of any of the above genres. Netorare and Femdom can intertwine.)

I think if you try to cater to all the above genres, you might fail to give the harem crowd an update, then the next month you might fail to give the femdom crowd an update, then next month maybe you fail to give the netorare crowd an update, or the gay crowd an update. So patrons will have to wait every other update to get the content they want.

I think Seeds of Chaos is suffering from this problem, I could be wrong, what does everyone else think?
A mere look at each changelog will show you are wrong.
The developers have been taking care to even out the sex scenes with each update so that there is not only a focus in one genre while the rest is forgotten until the next time.

Also you missed quite a few genres there. ;)
 

Punkreas

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I got a lot of script errors in this last update

Code:
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
KeyError: u'tmp_spy'

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  File "game/main_loop.rpyc", line 37, in script call
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  File "game/locations/rowans_chambers.rpyc", line 43, in script call
  File "game/events/orciad/orciad_batri.rpyc", line 301, in script
    �cҔ*Ń�L�j���x�B�m���,������1=?qy\'��    ��X������:�`����q;��U
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I'm using dev console tough, just to watch the new events, i lost 2 saves and not in the mood to do everything from the start lol
 

T51bwinterized

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We cannot promise that there won't be errors when someone uses Dev Console. That is the nature of Dev Console.
 

manscout

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How do i complete the orcs subquest? I get killed around week 60
It is a pretty long quest, so if you want something more detailed look for a guide, but here's a rough rundown.

For starters, visit the big orc tribe, its at the northwest corner of the map, after the game gives you the basic rundown, there's 4 ways of completing the quest:

Side with Ulcro, he's the old boss of the tribe, to complete his quest you need to do two things, first you need to get presents for Delaine, the noble woman prisoner, the main way of doing this is to go raiding with his elite orcs but you can also get a little bonus by asking Cliohna and Jezera for help, second you need to talk Delaine into accepting Ulcro, explore the camp and soon Rowan will spot a suspicious place in the camp, if you succeed the checks you should be able to sneak into the tent where Delaine is being held, keep visiting her and talk her into embracing Ulcro.

Side with Batri, he's the young contender, to complete his quest you need to strengthen his position in the tribe so he can depose Ulcro, I don't remember this questline very well, I think most of the things you can do to help his position are events in the tribe, I think you can also ask Greyhide to make weapons for him. I don't remember if you need to discover Delaine's position but I think you do.

Rescue Delaine, find out where Delaine is being held, talk with her to gain her trust, then plot an escape plan, to do so Rowan will need to get help from a few people around the tribe and will need to scout the camp's layout to find a weak spot in the defenses and plot an escape route.

Side with Tarish, deceitful orc woman that is hungry for power, talk with her and make a deal with her, then follow the "rescue Delaine" instructions, but at the end instead of rescuing Delaine you deliver her to Tarish.

No matter which path you take, the orc questline ends with a showdown between Ulcro and Batri, that's how you'll know the quest is finished.
 

dkatryl

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We cannot promise that there won't be errors when someone uses Dev Console. That is the nature of Dev Console.
While this is understood, i would like to point out that for at least 2.49 and the current 2.50, the 'Bathing_Andras' event gives an immediate renpy error.

And i dont mean like once you run it, i mean, if you simply select it before you run it.

That stood out significantly from the others, so i figured i would point it out.
 

ZeroNilNone

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This is my point. You may have to wait months and months before you'll ever see that.
I get it but that's what you want, I want Andras actually getting Alexis' pussy once in a while when he tells Rowan that when you visit the Arena and he tells him "I haven't had pussy in a while, maybe I'll visit your wife". No way you can please everybody.
 
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ZeroNilNone

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I don't get the whole Andres hate thing, the MF is alpha as fuck, yeah he is evil, so what. He takes what he wants and Jezera has no problem with it in the long run, but this is a story, that's all. It seems that there is no Andres path or I'm playing it wrong...don't know I'm just ranting.
 
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I don't get the whole Andres hate thing, the MF is alpha as fuck, yeah he is evil, so what. He takes what he wants and Jezera has no problem with it in the long run, but this is a story, that's all. It seems that there is no Andres path or I'm playing it wrong...don't know I'm just ranting.
I mean, he's good as a character, but he is pretty insufferable as a person. His casual arrogance, his meat-headedness, his self-destructive temper... He's just the kind of person who you love to see brought down, you know? This is further reinforced by his relationship with the main viewpoint character (Rowan), whom he treats as an inferior, highlighting all of his worst aspects.

In other words, he's hated because he's meant to be hated. It doesn't necessarily have to stay that way narratively, if the player has Rowan submit to him and enjoy it, or if there's later an arc where Andras grows a bit as a leader instead of constantly killing all his staff, and develops a bit of grudging respect for Rowan, but as-introduced... He's kind of a jerk. A well-written jerk, but a jerk.

I don't want him written out of what's been written or killed off tomorrow; good villains make great stories, as they say. But it would be pretty satisfying to see an ending where he dies in his moment of triumph. Assuming that he doesn't go through a series of humiliating losses that teaches him that he needs to change and grow, of course.
 
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