Balrual

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I didn't bother to read everything but I just love the fact, of ALL places on the internet, someone is trying to kink shame.
 

pppjjj

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I didn't bother to read everything but I just love the fact, of ALL places on the internet, someone is trying to kink shame.
If you're referring to me, it wasn't my intention to kink shame anyone. I simply got too closed up on my own personal preference (as in I would consider someone that tells me what to do irl etc. kind of abusive) that I failed to consider other possibilities (as in someone might like it).
Again, not trying to shame anyone.
 

issue28

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You made really good points there but had to get arrogant in that last line didn't you? :D I think that's kind of your signature move
 
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issue28

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It may be, but you have to admit how it looks. Especially in written form where tone cannot be properly conveyed.
 

T51bwinterized

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It may be, but you have to admit how it looks. Especially in written form where tone cannot be properly conveyed.
Nah, I'm sure onahole-kun can take a joke. He probably laughed at that one too.

Besides, on a vaguely serious note, I don't know if we're going to make Rowan more..."rapey" but there will be options for him to be more confident and controlling with a number of cast members including Alexia, Helayna, and Shaya to be introduced in the immediate future, with dominant interactions with even more of the cast to follow.

If "confident and controlling" means more Mdom though, that's TBD lol.
 

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I agree with you on the rape thing. I also think a Dom is Dom through sheer force of will and not aggression. That being said I also agree with your "opponent" in that so far Rowan is more subby than Dom and that I myself will prefer more content with Rowan if not a bad ass Dom at least more controlling and self assured, more able to stand up for himself and be more strong in his interactions. I am aware that is not possible with the twins at the moment (though it is my dream to make those asshole pay a thousand fold for all the shit they pulled and make those assholes suffer. I think at this point for me it's not just about Domming them as is about freaking sadistic revenge), but at least with all the other minor character I think we should be able to play a Dom Rowan if so we choose to.
 

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The word "Lesbomancer" can be said without looking totally absurd.
C'mon, aren't you writing sexualized fiction in fantasy setting?
Let's assume that in the world of SoC homosexuality in women is caused by elemental force of magical(or maybe divine) nature. So "lesbomancer" could be described as the person manipulating aforementioned force through sorcerous, ritualistic or mystical means to empower oneself or magically conjure lesbians to do one's bidding. Sound like certain purple sorceress to me.

What if "floating lesbians" phenomenon is not actually intentional and simply a side effect of them "overcharging"? Something akin to magnetic levitation? What if Mary is tattooed not just for fun but to accumulate and hold power, not unlike battery or capacitor?
 

T51bwinterized

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I agree with you on the rape thing. I also think a Dom is Dom through sheer force of will and not aggression. That being said I also agree with your "opponent" in that so far Rowan is more subby than Dom and that I myself will prefer more content with Rowan if not a bad ass Dom at least more controlling and self assured, more able to stand up for himself and be more strong in his interactions. I am aware that is not possible with the twins at the moment (though it is my dream to make those asshole pay a thousand fold for all the shit they pulled and make those assholes suffer. I think at this point for me it's not just about Domming them as is about freaking sadistic revenge), but at least with all the other minor character I think we should be able to play a Dom Rowan if so we choose to.
Well, it depends on the side cast member and place in their arc. It's not like Cliohna is going to suddenly roll over if you show up around her with a puffed chest. X'z is domme coded too.

A bunch of them will have options to grow more dominant with. For example, when it comes to Shaya she often has a certain kind of advantage that comes from her control over information. Rowan's behaviour should shift as he interacts more with different cast members.

Most of the cast stories aren't even at the end of the act yet, but we are getting there. Look back at it in six months and tell me if you still think Rowan doesn't have enough dominant options with the side cast.

C'mon, aren't you writing sexualized fiction in fantasy setting?
Let's assume that in the world of SoC homosexuality in women is caused by elemental force of magical(or maybe divine) nature. So "lesbomancer" could be described as the person manipulating aforementioned force through sorcerous, ritualistic or mystical means to empower oneself or magically conjure lesbians to do one's bidding. Sound like certain purple sorceress to me.

What if "floating lesbians" phenomenon is not actually intentional and simply a side effect of them "overcharging"? Something akin to magnetic levitation? What if Mary is tattooed not just for fun but to accumulate and hold power, not unlike battery or capacitor?
Amusing, but SoC probably isn't the game for that. I was just having a blast going over Harem Collector by my friend No Moshing, and I could totally see a lesbomancer in that.
 

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I don't know if we're going to make Rowan more..."rapey"
Corruption + Alexia's betrayal make him more unkind to women.

Or Rowan breaking down after traumatic stuff, while an orgy going on, like right after Rastedel (can never remember the right spelling), Rowan could be swept from the atmosphere and stop thinking for awhile. And when he comes to his senses, I expect shame and guilt wracking him for his behavior. If SoC is going dark dark, we can't just let the MC have a sound mind after all the ordeals he will face, can we?
 

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Well, it depends on the side cast member and place in their arc. It's not like Cliohna is going to suddenly roll over if you show up around her with a puffed chest. X'z is domme coded too.
I understand what you are saying and I am not asking that he should Dom everyone. But at the same time if I choose to play the Dom Rowan path then with those characters that are "domme codded" I would expect an equal terms type of interaction. Maybe not right from the beginning, give the circumstances, but with a little time he finds a way to assert himself and speak and interact from a equal footing with a fellow Dom/me. Again IF i choose to play the Dom Rowan path as a player that would make sense. It would not make sense to play a Dom Rowan that subs to certain side chars, again the twins are a different beast.
 

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I understand what you are saying and I am not asking that he should Dom everyone. But at the same time if I choose to play the Dom Rowan path then with those characters that are "domme codded" I would expect an equal terms type of interaction. Maybe not right from the beginning, give the circumstances, but with a little time he finds a way to assert himself and speak and interact from a equal footing with a fellow Dom/me. Again IF i choose to play the Dom Rowan path as a player that would make sense. It would not make sense to play a Dom Rowan that subs to certain side chars, again the twins are a different beast.
Is there any side-characters presently in the game who feel like Rowan should be more initially more top-esque towards them? In intial interactions?

Also, we expect to some extent that a Dom-coded Rowan just wouldn't interact with certain optional charachters. In particular, from a narrative sense it makes sense that a Rowan who truly dislikes being topped just wouldn't be spending time with X'z. So to an extent we can say that a player choosing to interact further with certain charachters is the player choosing to roleplay Rowan as more willing to engage in subbyness. The challenge for us is ensuring that this is only the case for scenes where the player chooses to intiate the itneraction.
 

issue28

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Sure they all see him as a weakling sub in the initial interactions, but if we choose to play him as Dom then as a Dom he should have the capacity to assert himself
 

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Sure they all see him as a weakling sub in the initial interactions, but if we choose to play him as Dom then as a Dom he should have the capacity to assert himself
Like I said. Some Dom-coded charachters a dominant Rowan would just never go out of his way to interact with. As we move more of the NPC interactions to room events, this will be easier to roleplay. A dominant Rowan would just rather be spending his time flogging Liurial/Draith then getting dicked by X'z, so he spends more time with Liurial/Draith.
 

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Can't he just get to a point where he is an equal to these chars? Maybe he needs to interact with X'z for plot point purposes. Does he have to sub to them and not talk to them from an equal stance?
 

T51bwinterized

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Can't he just get to a point where he is an equal to these chars? Maybe he needs to interact with X'z for plot point purposes. Does he have to sub to them and not talk to them from an equal stance?
If a character is vital to plot function, we'd generally allow Rowan an evolving relationship to them. But, most of the cast members are not vital to plot function. There's different rules for the twins relative to someone like X'z.
 

issue28

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Just saying... that would do make more immersion for some of us. Because if I play a Dom and evolve my relationships and status as a Dom with the vital ones and yet I get to a scene where I am forced to sub to the non vital ones out of the blue after all that char evolution will just get me out of it, immersion wise.
 
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