Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.10] [Vénus Noire]

[Etheric]

Interesting how for some there is too much femdom in the game. I was a Patreon at the start because of the femdom content, but imho it shifted more and more to maledom and gay content. Now it seems the game's older scenes might even be rewritten. Hmm, well I guess complaining a lot helps and if the majority of their current Patreons want that content the devs are probably right to follow that demand.
Personally from a femdom lover's point of view I simply moved on to dedicated femdom games,meaning where it is the main thing. Any game where femdom is an also run, just gets too much pressure from people into maledom, since for some reason a good amount of these guys always trigger femdom scenes, even when they are avoidable. Some of them even consider maledom content as femdom, if it is not maledom enough. Like reading here Helayna is an option for subs.

I got costumed to this. Many games that have an interesting femdom character become butchered and turn into an another bimbo for the protagonist harem and games that are supposed to be femdom oriented turn into maledom/femdom game and then abandon the femdom.

Last year the game focused way much in Vanilla, Yuri and Maledom Scenes... Futa was completely abandoned and Femdom only got very light scenes. I wonder if the dev will continue this trend.

 

[baneini]

Act 1 is supposed to close in 80 weeks. If you are past that, you'll start seeing weird behaviour as the plot starts breaking down

Designing games like that where content just ends and player keeps going because no info is horrible, basically requires the game to be completed to be fine.

 

[Snugglepuff]

Designing games like that where content just ends and player keeps going because no info is horrible

It's almost as though this game is... Still in development

 

[aykarin]

I got costumed to this. Many games that have an interesting femdom character become butchered and turn into an another bimbo for the protagonist harem and games that are supposed to be femdom oriented turn into maledom/femdom game and then abandon the femdom.

Last year the game focused way much in Vanilla, Yuri and Maledom Scenes... Futa was completely abandoned and Femdom only got very light scenes. I wonder if the dev will continue this trend.

I think exactly the same. I have been following Seeds of Chaos from the beginning and this shift is painfully visible. There is still some femdom content in the game (even new being added, e.g. Cliohna path, albeit not much), but overall it's heavily tilting into the direction of harem/maledom-oriented VN. I'm really glad that the Alexia NTR path is still being pushed but I fear that the hysterical anti-NTR lobby will force the devs to make NTR a minor feature of the game :/ :/

 

[Mergen1]

I think exactly the same. I have been following Seeds of Chaos from the beginning and this shift is painfully visible. There is still some femdom content in the game (even new being added, e.g. Cliohna path, albeit not much), but overall it's heavily tilting into the direction of harem/maledom-oriented VN. I'm really glad that the Alexia NTR path is still being pushed but I fear that the hysterical anti-NTR lobby will force the devs to make NTR a minor feature of the game :/ :/

Rowan made history in deception, Alexia would have liked the NTR scenes to be little more, and I couldn't see Futa/trance in the game. I'm waiting for the new update on January 31, Rowan / Alexia more ntr,threesome maybe even orgy.

 

[Mergen1]

Rowan / Alexia ntr,threesome,orgy, futa/trans scenes would be more enjoyable if the game, Alexia ntr scene orgy maybe threesome I hope it comes in the new update

 

[Fakeuser002]

I was getting emotionally attached ot Alexia, so witnessing more of these flirts , advances, kisses, touched etc ... its too much.
They will probably grope her, kiss her cheeks or something later on. The flirts and advances will probably get more bold

It's actually the opposite, if you had played it just a few scenes more you'd be able to show her that Andras has been lying and manipulating her all along, and she'll start to hate him. Afterwards you can make it so that she'll react negatively to him every time he tries to put the moves on her.

 

[Etheric]

I think exactly the same. I have been following Seeds of Chaos from the beginning and this shift is painfully visible. There is still some femdom content in the game (even new being added, e.g. Cliohna path, albeit not much), but overall it's heavily tilting into the direction of harem/maledom-oriented VN. I'm really glad that the Alexia NTR path is still being pushed but I fear that the hysterical anti-NTR lobby will force the devs to make NTR a minor feature of the game :/ :/

I'm not a fan of NTR but isn't the NTR in this game kind of shallow? Supposed to change the mind of the girl and impact on the couple by the woman giving preference for the other guy and humiliate her partner? I never went deep into the NTR of this game but as far I know is just her having sex with Andras with no impact whatsoever in the relationship between the couple.

 

[Fakeuser002]

I'm not a fan of NTR but isn't the NTR in this game kind of shallow? Supposed to change the mind of the girl and impact on the couple by the woman giving preference for the other guy and humiliate her partner? I never went deep into the NTR of this game but as far I know is just her having sex with Andras with no impact whatsoever in the relationship between the couple.

I'm not interested in NTR either so I mostly avoided it but it's ironic that the netori path (with bringing in Helaynia) seems to have more of a impact on their marriage than the NTR path itself. Maybe it's a slow burner kind of thing and it really does feel that NTR has been sidelined from their original plans. Which is imo weird because let's face it, once a game has been stained with NTR, the anti-NTR people will avoid it like a diseased hobo no matter how far the devs may bend themselves backwards to downplay/optionalize the NTR parts. It's a losing proposition, you can't really win over Greeks by appealing to Trojans.
Like I said I'm not really a fan of NTR so no skin off my nose, but I can't help but think the devs are backing themselves on a corner here.

 

[Rein]

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[Rein]

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[errte13]

Sound like some cheater hogwash

 

[Limited20]

It's actually the opposite, if you had played it just a few scenes more you'd be able to show her that Andras has been lying and manipulating her all along, and she'll start to hate him. Afterwards you can make it so that she'll react negatively to him every time he tries to put the moves on her.

Wow .... well then, Im gonna give it another go. I was trying to find some spoilers online since I like the story of this game.
In my playthrough Im going for loyal Rowan and Alexia, so it was kinda sad to see Alexia flirt with Andras and not rejecting his advances.

 

[Limited20]

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This is called "Alpha seed, Beta need"

Woman having this mindset are emotionally damaged.
The most common cause for this is promiscuity. Having too many sexual partners. Because of this, the woman can no longer emotionally connect with her "loved one"(She can no longer pair bond).

The most common example for women with this mindset, is when they no longer want to have "fun" and now they are looking for a serious relationship. They find a good man, and a few months in the relationship they simply find their "loved one" boring. He no longer gives her butterflies in the stomach(the excitement is gone). So now she is off to find dick somewhere else while trying to keep her current relationship going, because she likes the comfort from her "loved one" .....

The comment that you posted from that woman "Big dick energy is understanding that sometimes your girl needs some new dick but still loves you" is a simple shaming tactic in order to normalize such behaviour.

 

[Rein]

Guys.

Guys.

 

[diebesgrab]

Wow .... well then, Im gonna give it another go. I was trying to find some spoilers online since I like the story of this game.
In my playthrough Im going for loyal Rowan and Alexia, so it was kinda sad to see Alexia flirt with Andras and not rejecting his advances.

The intro was written a long time ago now, and I think the full scale of the game may not yet have been entirely comprehended at the time, so the NTR subplot moves a bit faster there than the rest of the game, even if you have NTR on and are pursuing that path.

You also have to remember that Alexia during the intro has no idea what Rowan is up to, knows she’s part of a trap for him, and wants to keep him safe. She’s torn between wanting to be reunited with him and hoping he never shows up so that he doesn’t fall into the twins’ grasp. Andras is also being exceptionally kind to her during this period and the intro lasts months, so she’s responding to him in a friendly manner. If you don’t pursue the NTR path in the intro, it doesn’t really go very far beyond that.

Regardless, the intro is one of the things slated to be rewritten at some point, so it’ll doubtless be retooled to match the pacing of the rest of the game better.

 

[Mergen1]

There was no scene of Alexia having sex with futa/trans in the library, there are images that show that this is the case. only Alexia powers who appeared

 

[Drexelhand]

That feeling when you want the Andras event to be finished in time for the update... but the knowledge that if you wait, the CGs might be done with it for the next update in two months. These truly are... the Seeds of Chaos...

HEEYYYYYYYYY

 

[Limited20]

The intro was written a long time ago now, and I think the full scale of the game may not yet have been entirely comprehended at the time, so the NTR subplot moves a bit faster there than the rest of the game, even if you have NTR on and are pursuing that path.

You also have to remember that Alexia during the intro has no idea what Rowan is up to, knows she’s part of a trap for him, and wants to keep him safe. She’s torn between wanting to be reunited with him and hoping he never shows up so that he doesn’t fall into the twins’ grasp. Andras is also being exceptionally kind to her during this period and the intro lasts months, so she’s responding to him in a friendly manner. If you don’t pursue the NTR path in the intro, it doesn’t really go very far beyond that.

Regardless, the intro is one of the things slated to be rewritten at some point, so it’ll doubtless be retooled to match the pacing of the rest of the game better.

Gave it another go, played for about 2 hours.
After the intro, there are no more flirtings and advances. Alexia has only spoken to the Minotaur and it was chill, nothing sexual, no flirts, no advances, simple talk so we get to know the characters. Hope it stays this way for the rest of the game.

The NTR atmosphere from the intro felt bad. The ntr undertone was heavy because Alexia did not even try to reject the flirts and advances xD . Andras even touched and kissed her, and she just blushed ...... not being angry at him or anything.



Its good that they plan to rework the intro. Hope they rewrite some of Alexias lines in the early game too. Because even with NTR OFF, the dialog suggest that Alexia is not loyal. The writing simply ignores if any NTR/cheating happened or not.
Best example I can give for this is an early sex scene Rowan x Alexia in the castle. After the sex, Rowan tells her that "They should do this again tomorrow or next week" , and then Alexia says "...maybe if I can fit you in my schedule" (along those lines, forgot her entire sentence), She is basically telling him to wait in line, that he has to wait for his turn again lol (my face typing this "lol")

 

[diebesgrab]

Gave it another go, played for about 2 hours.
After the intro, there are no more flirtings and advances. Alexia has only spoken to the Minotaur and it was chill, nothing sexual, no flirts, no advances, simple talk so we get to know the characters. Hope it stays this way for the rest of the game.

The NTR atmosphere from the intro felt bad. The ntr undertone was heavy because Alexia did not even try to reject the flirts and advances xD . Andras even touched and kissed her, and she just blushed ...... not being angry at him or anything.



Its good that they plan to rework the intro. Hope they rewrite some of Alexias lines in the early game too. Because even with NTR OFF, the dialog suggest that Alexia is not loyal. The writing simply ignores if any NTR/cheating happened or not.
Best example I can give for this is an early sex scene Rowan x Alexia in the castle. After the sex, Rowan tells her that "They should do this again tomorrow or next week" , and then Alexia says "...maybe if I can fit you in my schedule" (along those lines, forgot her entire sentence), She is basically telling him to wait in line, that he has to wait for his turn again lol (my face typing this "lol")

Not telling you what to like or not like, but it feels like you’re being kinda oversensitive. Alexia never strikes me as wanting to betray Rowan in the intro unless you actually make the relevant choice there. Even then she’s disillusioned with Andras before she even realizes he’s lied to her, and the only reason she really considers doing it is because she thinks it could help Rowan.

Not saying if you make that choice she’s totally cold to Andras, just that she’s mostly thinking of Rowan the entire time, and not going “hurr hurr forget that cuck hurr”—and again, that’s if she takes the “disloyal” option, so she seems even less interested if she takes the “loyal” option.

Regarding the situation with Rowan and “schedules” you’re talking about, I’m not sure which event you’re referring to and I don’t have full context, but I would guess anything like that was said either in jest or because you’re past the point where Alexia actually does have work. The NTR paths haven’t progressed to the point where she’s getting off on blatantly cucking Rowan even if you take them, let alone if you don’t.