Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.10] [Vénus Noire]

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You think so? I believe Mary is steadfastly loyal to Jezera despite working together or having fun with Alexia. When it comes to her servants that personally serves her, it's stated that Jezera takes her time and fully vets the candidates. And Mary is one of them -- going so far as marking her body for Jezera.

What do y'all think? Do you guys think she'd be able to throw her lot with Alexia over her mistress when it comes down to it by the end of Act I? Is this possible in the current version of SoC?

Oh, and X’zzy is a hardcore RowanxAlexia shipper in her updates, stating outright that they’re literally the only reason she came along with the twins, so you should probably stick her in their camp unequivocally.

Wait wait wait, X'zaratyl only came to Bloodmeen because of Rowan and Alexia and not because of her friend, Jezera? Did she even know who they were before even arriving to Bloodmeen? (I mean, outside of what Jezera might have said about Bloodmeen and Rowan off-screen when Jez first invited her.) X'zaratyl didn't even recognize the couple when they first met, right? Ret-conned? I heard there was a little bit of a rewrite to allow for a fit better with the new content centered around the character. Having not played through this, if the player makes the most optimal choices in regards to X'zaratyl, could Rowan/Alexia actually secure her loyalty above The Twins by the end of Act I? Or would she just be infatuated with the couple and continue to remain faithful to Jezera in the end?

 

[diebesgrab]

You think so? I believe Mary is steadfastly loyal to Jezera despite working together or having fun with Alexia. When it comes to her servants that personally serves her, it's stated that Jezera takes her time and fully vets the candidates. And Mary is one of them -- going so far as marking her body for Jezera.

What do y'all think? Do you guys think she'd be able to throw her lot with Alexia over her mistress when it comes down to it by the end of Act I? Is this possible in the current version of SoC?


Wait wait wait, X'zaratyl only came to Bloodmeen because of Rowan and Alexia and not because of her friend, Jezera? Did she even know who they were before even arriving to Bloodmeen? (I mean, outside of what Jezera might have said about Bloodmeen and Rowan off-screen when Jez first invited her.) X'zaratyl didn't even recognize the couple when they first met, right? Ret-conned? I heard there was a little bit of a rewrite to allow for a fit better with the new content centered around the character. Having not played through this, if the player makes the most optimal choices in regards to X'zaratyl, could Rowan/Alexia actually secure her loyalty above The Twins by the end of Act I? Or would she just be infatuated with the couple and continue to remain faithful to Jezera in the end?

No, in the rewrite she’s got this whole fanfiction thing worked out in her head for RowanxAlexia; she was apparently following news of Rowan’s exploits (and researching his home life) during the war. I’m not exaggerating when I call her a fangirl shipper, that’s 100% how she’s presenting herself. I suspect she has other motivations, but her real interest for now seems to be RowanxAlexia, period. Without knowing more about what she ultimately wants, it’s hard to say exactly what she’d do, of course, but if we take what she says at face value, all she wants is to wallow in RowanxAlexia, she doesn’t really give a crap about anything else.

 

[Sasarko99]

I actually placed the Cla-Clan with Rowan's camp originally on the table, but was convinced otherwise by Aykarin. Perhaps that will change with further debate. Who knows? Skordred currently acknowledges that Rowan is Chaos's Champion, I agree;

Skordred recognizes Rowan as the Champion of Chaos only if you decide to go with Might makes right as the modus operandi.
Opposite with Cla-min who you gain favor with by choosing Feudalism.

The Orciad Orcs would ultimately lie with Bloodmeen, wouldn't it?

I think it depends on how you treat them and whether you sided with Tarki from the start.
Personally, I'll rather have them all slaughtered for all the rape and pillaging they commit against us humans.

What I believe would change everything is if Kharos, the God of Darkness or something like that, interfered and nominated Rowan as his true heir. I know, I know, it seems rather bizarre.

It does seem bizarre, I do think the two gods play a role but direct intervention seems to be unlike them, especially Kharos who likes to watch shit unfold, I believe it was Nassim who said Kharos strongly stands by his motto of might makes right that he would even let his own priests fend for themselves at the face of annihilation.

Wait wait wait, X'zaratyl only came to Bloodmeen because of Rowan and Alexia and not because of her friend, Jezera?

It seems like it, she has an interest in Rowan and she develops a love for him and alexia, she seems to be interested in watching over their relationship and willing to participate if Rowan lets her in, she also seems to have an interest in helping Alexia get pregnant and also hints at being interest in it too. Probably both getting pregnant and impregnating Alexia if allowed by Rowan idk.

 

[Sp3]

I liked the old art much more to be honest. Is there a way to roll it back?

 

[nattaphon033]

in latest patch have lactation scene? , i seen art in dev.twitter

 

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I liked the old art much more to be honest. Is there a way to roll it back?

No, not without modding the game. (To modify it, replace any CGs with the old style in game's directory after UnRening it. This will only get you so far since new CGs will be created to the current visual style of the game.) The team is trying to bring a similar style to the CGs in the game so that it doesn't look like it's been hacked and duct-taped together from a wide variety of sources and styles. In fact, existing CGs will be touched up as needed to bring them in line with a similar visual theme for continued consistency. Personally, I approve of this move as it makes the game look a lot less amateurish.

Re: Fangirl X'zaratyl
That actually sounds super interesting! More folks interested in the Dirt General pre-Bloodmeen is awesome.

Re: Skordred
Oh yes, I forgot that going with a Fuedal-type of system will ruffle Skordred's feathers. As I recall though, he gets over it with time, but it's been ages since I played so it's possible I may be misremembering how this pans out.

...have lactation scene?

Other than with Emma, I don't believe so.

Other NPCs (not an exhaustive list) that are not yet placed onto the table... (Where should they go?)
Draith, Drokk, Francois, Emma, Krug & Snug, Maud, Captain Alain / Captain Alarie, Darla the Huntress, Garforth, Kethar, Koh, Mikael, Nileth, Obelius, Rylea, Shani, Sil, Sister Gwen, Tarek, and Valrys.

Many of them may not even need to be placed on there such as Drokk, Krug, or Sil. They may be dead, are a one-off throwaway character that will not return or will not leave a lasting impact, subsumed by another or another faction, or have little more than animal-like intelligence such as Black Ness.

 

[Mount Parnassus]

It does seem bizarre, I do think the two gods play a role but direct intervention seems to be unlike them, especially Kharos who likes to watch shit unfold, I believe it was Nassim who said Kharos strongly stands by his motto of might makes right that he would even let his own priests fend for themselves at the face of annihilation.

Well, whilst this is quite dissapointing, it also makes it easier for the MC, as he doesn't need clear nomination and can just proclaim himself.

 

[aykarin]

Making somebody your ally who is willing to betray their master is completely different to simply gaining that person's trust. I agree that Skordred and Cla-Min can become close to Rowan, but I don't think this is enough to secure their support in case of an open struggle between Rowan and the Twins. Like somebody said earlier, probably the player will eventually be able to sway to his side almost every NPC in the castle. But that's in the long run, only in the much later part of the game. I don't think Rowan could gain much support at the end of Act I.

Also, SoC will probably be similar to BioWare's games, where certain morally-aligned decisions divide your party, making some of your companions support you and others oppose you. I'd be willing to bet that gaining support from every NPC in one playthrough will not be possible in any case. Winning over some of them will require decisions that isolate the others.

Regarding X'zaratl and her obsession with Rowan & Alexia... I have my own theory about this. I don't believe we can trust X'zaratl 100%. True, she seems trustworthy and wants our protagonists to love each other even more, but at the same time she is a succubus, a type of demon specializing not only in sex, but also in deception. Whereas in terms of gameplay X'zaratl's scenes serve as a counterweigh to large amount of NTR options, in terms of her role in the plot I don't think she could join the "good"/Solansia side. All her events give the player big amounts of corruption points. This is just my own theory, but I suspect X'zaratl isn't truly in love with Rowan & Alexia, she is just playing with them, introducing them to new fetishes and willing to see how far will they go. Her plan is to corrupt them, not to help them.

 

[Sp3]

No, not without modding the game. (To modify it, replace any CGs with the old style in game's directory after UnRening it. This will only get you so far since new CGs will be created to the current visual style of the game.)

I'd have to get the old CGs from somewhere first. I'll see if there's any left in the public build.

The team is trying to bring a similar style to the CGs in the game so that it doesn't look like it's been hacked and duct-taped together from a wide variety of sources and styles. In fact, existing CGs will be touched up as needed to bring them in line with a similar visual theme for continued consistency. Personally, I approve of this move as it makes the game look a lot less amateurish.

Normally I'd be all for style consistency, and I know a few projects which quality was hurt overall by mashing unfitting art together, but old art style is the reason I care for Seeds of Chaos, and it hurts seeing it go.

 

[Sotman]

Does anyone know if and how can someone decompile images or music? I tried using rpaextract but I keep get Errno13. I even tried using command line to grant myself full control and even after I do that successfully nothing changes.

 

[Sp3]

Does anyone know if and how can someone decompile images or music? I tried using rpaextract but I keep get Errno13. I even tried using command line to grant myself full control and even after I do that successfully nothing changes.

I extract everything with Unren, never had any issues.

 

[Sotman]

I extract everything with Unren, never had any issues.

Ι didn't know about Unren. I will give it a try and update my comment
UPDATE: I am still getting Errno13 permission denied.

 

[Sotman]

Apparently I can decompile text but no image or music in this game. I tried rpaextract in another Renpy game and everything was decompiled.

 

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I'd have to get the old CGs from somewhere first. I'll see if there's any left in the public build.

Normally I'd be all for style consistency, and I know a few projects which quality was hurt overall by mashing unfitting art together, but old art style is the reason I care for Seeds of Chaos, and it hurts seeing it go.

Here, you can try this --

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. Many of the early sets do have the older style CG when compared to the new. (Following that link will obviously be very spoilery for anyone else.)

Sotman - I can also attest that many users have used UnRen for a wide variety of Ren'Py games without issue. You're gonna be all good, mate!

 

[Sotman]

(Since I don't know how to take a screenshot in Win10, here is a snapshot)

 

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(Since I don't know how to take a screenshot in Win10, here is a snapshot)

Try running it in administrator mode. You may need to change your pathway as well. Not sure if that apostrophe you got there is a ASCII apostrophe since non-ASCII characters does cause issues. Are you able to run the game normally? That's what pops into my head first.

Screenshots can be taken by hitting the Print Screen (Prt Scr) button and then pasting it to a Paint program (to manually save them). You can also set it up to open the Snipping Tool under Settings but that's a bulky way to go about it.
The quickest way would be - Hitting the Windows Key + the Prt Scr Key. It will immediately save an unedited screenshot to your Pictures > Screenshot folder. Alternatively, you can hit Alt + Prt Scr Key to snap a shot of only your active window but then you will also need to manually save afterwards. Good luck and cheers!

 

[Sp3]

(Since I don't know how to take a screenshot in Win10, here is a snapshot)

Yeah, that's something caused by UAC, odd symbols in your path or folder's permissions, so Back's advice of unpacking the game somewhere safe and running it as admin ought to help.

 

[Sotman]

I am not sure exactly what exactly solved the issue. I set myself as the owner of disk C with full privileges and removed my antivirus.

 

[Sotman]

Anyway, thank you everyone for the ideas and the inspiration.

 

[Oriandu]

Everyone's all "deep storyline discussions" and I'm all "when do we get to knock up Cla Min?"