Ren'Py Seeds of Chaos [v0.4.10] [Vénus Noire]
diebesgrab
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I mean, I can go into political theory and feudal logistics if you want.
But, Rowan really didn't have access to anything resembling a force that would actually be able to take the castle. If you'll recall from the first Rastedel quest, the belief of the leadership of the realms was that this was just some minor demons going on raids. In the story, this belief doesn't actually get broken until the Rosarian army is ambushed and destroyed. If the realms percieved this as a true "Greater Demon" war, then they'd be more inclined to march. But, two demon wars so soon is unprecedented and they werne't about to believe it just because Rowan said it was the case.
Rowan's political power is basically directly tied to "how fucked the situation is". And at the start of the game, things were mostly fine. This is because his power is entirely derivative of utility and connections and not from intuitions. The lower his utility the lower his power.
He could have called up some friends and personal connections, but even then he'd need to persuade them on a months long trek north through a famously hard to supply area. In Feudal society, the only people with access to serious military powers are governments or feudal lords. And calling levies for an extended campaign is a thing feudal lords are not inclined to do. If the demon force at Bloodmeen really had been inconsequential, then the cost of the expedition in terms of manpower and lost resources (Feudal Levies are also the civilian workforce) would have been huge.
Among the major political factions, the only ones in the entire world I could plausibly see helping him might be the Knights in the Tundra. But, we haven't really established that fully, and on a practical level getting the knights to comit to a forced march to the Rakshan wastes is unlikely. And the trip south and then back north would at least double the movement time.
So the only real question is "Why didn't Rowan try to go with a small strike force of allies or mercenaries". And that's a more fair question. Helayna, some war buddies, maybe even one of the heroes could have been persuaded to help him. But, even then his behavior isn't that out of character. Adding 4 or 5 people wouldn't make them anymore likely to win via frontal assault and might make stealth more difficult.
And Rowan, for all his fame in working as a unit, is by nature something of a loner. He likes to travel light, alone, through hostile country. He did it at Karst, at other points during the war, and does it frequently in the game.
So, once it became apparent that Duke Raeve and Rastedel weren't about to march an army to Bloodmeen because a small village got burned by some "minor demons", he probably deciding that a solo-stealth infilitration was his best bet.
TLDR: Since when can a literal peasant just call up an army to send on a massive months long march based on a personal testimonial?
But, Rowan really didn't have access to anything resembling a force that would actually be able to take the castle. If you'll recall from the first Rastedel quest, the belief of the leadership of the realms was that this was just some minor demons going on raids. In the story, this belief doesn't actually get broken until the Rosarian army is ambushed and destroyed. If the realms percieved this as a true "Greater Demon" war, then they'd be more inclined to march. But, two demon wars so soon is unprecedented and they werne't about to believe it just because Rowan said it was the case.
Rowan's political power is basically directly tied to "how fucked the situation is". And at the start of the game, things were mostly fine. This is because his power is entirely derivative of utility and connections and not from intuitions. The lower his utility the lower his power.
He could have called up some friends and personal connections, but even then he'd need to persuade them on a months long trek north through a famously hard to supply area. In Feudal society, the only people with access to serious military powers are governments or feudal lords. And calling levies for an extended campaign is a thing feudal lords are not inclined to do. If the demon force at Bloodmeen really had been inconsequential, then the cost of the expedition in terms of manpower and lost resources (Feudal Levies are also the civilian workforce) would have been huge.
Among the major political factions, the only ones in the entire world I could plausibly see helping him might be the Knights in the Tundra. But, we haven't really established that fully, and on a practical level getting the knights to comit to a forced march to the Rakshan wastes is unlikely. And the trip south and then back north would at least double the movement time.
So the only real question is "Why didn't Rowan try to go with a small strike force of allies or mercenaries". And that's a more fair question. Helayna, some war buddies, maybe even one of the heroes could have been persuaded to help him. But, even then his behavior isn't that out of character. Adding 4 or 5 people wouldn't make them anymore likely to win via frontal assault and might make stealth more difficult.
And Rowan, for all his fame in working as a unit, is by nature something of a loner. He likes to travel light, alone, through hostile country. He did it at Karst, at other points during the war, and does it frequently in the game.
So, once it became apparent that Duke Raeve and Rastedel weren't about to march an army to Bloodmeen because a small village got burned by some "minor demons", he probably deciding that a solo-stealth infilitration was his best bet.
TLDR: Since when can a literal peasant just call up an army to send on a massive months long march based on a personal testimonial?
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Just put a game over state in at the beginning of the game for that guy, where Rowan goes to his "friends" for help they all get wrecked within seconds by the Twins and Rowan is cucked for eternity GAME OVER.
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Instead of game over, make a whole new game mode where you play only as Alexia.
Akallabeth
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Finally from the latest patreon art it looks like Alexia and Greyhide will be getting the scene they deserve.
You can't just say something like that and not follow up! I'm not on the Patreon any longer...
The anticipation is going to kill me.
Where is your humanity?
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Rivina
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Dunno about wrecked, I think wassaname, the living saint would be a heavy hitter, buuuuuuuut I have a rather different idea. What if instead Rowan sends letter/s to his friends explaining the situation and how he was told to come alone.
What if they were instructed to come later on? Depending on what goes down they might come along in Ep 2 or 3 and depending on how corrupt Rowan has or hasn't become they might help him or he might have to fight them. Travel to Bloodmeen apparently takes 4 or so months even when you're traveling without a massive supply trains etc so they might not even be able to make it till later anyway.
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If Rowan was actually able to persuade sexy pope that they were going to have a demon war to deal with, he would not be in this mess.
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Patrons are scheduled to get the update before the end of the month. We're putting the final touches on the release this week.
Keto 5678
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So im new to this game and all, but I tried searching the thread for it and found no answer so here>
To progress the Orc-iad event I needed to talk to Jezera - I talked to her after having been given the task, she said something about coming to see her again later but nothing ever happened again.
And Acquire poison from Cla-Min- but I cant find here anywhere. Not a clue how to access her shop or even talk to her outside of the weekly events in which she appeared a few times.
Can someone explain what im missing or what I need to do?
Edit: I read some comments on the thread that the shop was disabled at some point, but that was from 2019. Is it still disabled?
To progress the Orc-iad event I needed to talk to Jezera - I talked to her after having been given the task, she said something about coming to see her again later but nothing ever happened again.
And Acquire poison from Cla-Min- but I cant find here anywhere. Not a clue how to access her shop or even talk to her outside of the weekly events in which she appeared a few times.
Can someone explain what im missing or what I need to do?
Edit: I read some comments on the thread that the shop was disabled at some point, but that was from 2019. Is it still disabled?
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You just go to her area on the castle map, click it, and there should be an option to get the poison from Cla-Min.