I was off by about 6 months you don't have to be an asshole about it.
Ah ok thank you for the detail reply, I'll have to give it a go and see whats its like.
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Wiliam 1234567
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a route that specifically focuses on this, no, but you're basically doing this every time Rowan sleeps with someone else, so in a way, yes, several
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What versions have the deleted stuff? i have seeds-of-chaos-0.3.06-pc and seeds-of-chaos-0.3.07c-pc and seeds-of-chaos-0.4.08-non-patreon-pc The 3.06 was from around June 2022
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Kisama33
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it does, and to an extent also gives an Andras scene and I assume an Alexia scene would be on the way (or maybe it happened and I missed it?)
But if you were playing the game for the first time and actually reading the scenes and everything, between Astarte and completing Rastedel will be at least an hour if not more of content. And imo an erotic visual novel should finish with erotica; the gameplay loop for such a game is to follow different routes, make the right choices and be rewarded with sex scenes. So the most involved scene should come near the end. it's not a romantic game when you can end with a happily ever after, you are ending with sex. Mind you, from what I understand the JezeraXRowan scene that comes with Astarte is probably that level of scene. I still think these should happen at the arc's end?
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Kotobiki
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Nah bro, not every opinion you don't like is projection. At the end of the event her internal thoughts are like, "fuck Rowan, if he wasn't such a pussy, I'd be able to go to parties with drugs and booze everyday. I hate him. He's so useless etc. ect."
She doesn't give a shit about him being frozen out of that life by the most powerful noble around or that his and Andras' situations aren't the same. I guess the writers could make Rowan so stupid that he'd take her back after all that bs (assuming she even wants him back) but most dudes won't want someone like that.
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PorcZburator
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people complain about the surgery and what not.....but at least you saw it...all i got halfway a blackscreen....with text
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The NTR discourse on here be like...
At this point I feel like the NTR crusaders are way bigger snowflakes than the anti-NTR crowd. Like yeah the NTR events are optional to play but if someone is discussing the events on the NTR path, negative opinions should not be verboten. How the hell is "Alexia turns into a shitty person by the end of her NTR arc" a spicy hot take? Rowan is already stupid enough but to have him take Alexia back so that he can be NTR'd again in the second arc? It blows my mind that anyone would consider that good writing.
For me the issue with the NTR path for Alexia is that it's stupid. I mean you are breaking Rowan's relation with Alexia and Alexia is the only leash you have on him. He can absolutely blow the twins' cover if he realizes what is happening
It would have made a lot more sex if Rowan was a willing cuck...
It would have made a lot more sex if Rowan was a willing cuck...
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Fun fact, NTR (Netorare) is not a fetish that is focused on cuckolding, nor is the fetish focused on the cuck much less willfully enjoying being cucked. The same thing applies to Netorase & Netori. Yes, there is always a cuck in every genre of NTR, but again, the focus for the fetish is not the cuck or cuckolding.
The focus of NTR fetish is the slow/ gradual corruption of a Significant Other being Stolen from their Lover (in Netori, the one "stealing" the significant other is the MC/ protagonist)-- which the BEST art form of it in my opinion is when the cuck character has absolutely NO IDEA that his/ her significant other is cheating on him/ her.
Jynx_lucky_j
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I would argue that she becomes a shitty person because the player has chosen for her to enthrall herself to a shitty person. She is changing herself in a way to appeal more to Andras' tastes. Personally, I would find it to be more strange if she didn't significantly change after over a year of submitting herself to Andras' whims at every opportunity.
And I think it is a bit premature to speculate about what is going to happen in part 2 considering we're still probably still a year or more from the end of part 1.
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I lost the plot, what is the exact criticism about the execution of Alexias NTR? Its established in the prologue that Andras is a cocky bad guy and if Alexia decides to mingle with him, she would change from upstanding wife to a bad girl. And if you don't want that, then simply ignore Andras.
Is there some hypocritical wanting cake and eating it too, as in the interest to have Alexia be involved with Andras but still be faithfull to Rowan or what? Or the usual complaining about NTR being bad, despite it being optional and self-inflicted?
Is there some hypocritical wanting cake and eating it too, as in the interest to have Alexia be involved with Andras but still be faithfull to Rowan or what? Or the usual complaining about NTR being bad, despite it being optional and self-inflicted?
The complaint by NTR fans is that the NTR arc peaked too early in the story. They want Alexia to be romantically attached to Rowan while being sexually dominated by Andras into the second arc as well. So yes plenty of cake eaters. The rebuttal by me is that Alexia by the end of her NTR arc is too far gone for any kind of reconciliation with Rowan. But I guess NTR fans don't like to hear it.
I mean that's exactly my point. Alexia has changed and pretty much abandoned her relationship with Rowan. Any kind of reconciliation arc with Rowan at this point would be forced. It's like everyone wants to hear "NTR bad" when I'm not saying anything like that.
Jynx_lucky_j
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Maybe I'm misinterpreting what you are saying, and if so I apologize. But it seems like you are upset that after choosing for Alexia submit to Andras and turn to him for emotional support over her husband at every turn for months of in game time, her relationship with Rowan has reach a point that you feel has become irreconcilable. But what did you expect to happen in that scenario?
But what makes you so certain there will be a forced reconciliation? Personally I fully believe that when the full story is done there will be multiple endings based on the player's choices, and in at least one of those ending Rowan and Alexia will no longer be together.
Even if there is a reconciliation it will probably a several scene long optional arc or you'll have the option to continue on the Andras sex slave path. If that is the case, if you find her actions utterly unforgivable the just don't choose to reconcile. But just because you would be utterly unwilling to forgive her doesn't mean that other player's feel the same. some players might just enjoy being cucks, some players might just have a very forgiving nature, some players might shrug and say Rowan cheated way more so it's a wash, some players my consider how little Rowan know about what she has done and decide that it would in character for him to forgive based on his limited information.
But what makes you so certain there will be a forced reconciliation? Personally I fully believe that when the full story is done there will be multiple endings based on the player's choices, and in at least one of those ending Rowan and Alexia will no longer be together.
Even if there is a reconciliation it will probably a several scene long optional arc or you'll have the option to continue on the Andras sex slave path. If that is the case, if you find her actions utterly unforgivable the just don't choose to reconcile. But just because you would be utterly unwilling to forgive her doesn't mean that other player's feel the same. some players might just enjoy being cucks, some players might just have a very forgiving nature, some players might shrug and say Rowan cheated way more so it's a wash, some players my consider how little Rowan know about what she has done and decide that it would in character for him to forgive based on his limited information.
No I am not upset about Alexia's character development on the NTR path. I was specifically responding to someone who was upset that the NTR path peaked already and wanted a reconciliation of Alexia & Rowan's relationship so that the NTR could continue in the second arc. Like go back and read the posts I replied to. I find a scenario where they reconcile and start the NTR again just to fuel the NTR fetishists ridiculous. At that point Rowan is too stupid to live. I'd have to drop the game entirely and that would suck since I have paid more for this game (patreon and steam) than any other game in my Steam library.
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Jynx_lucky_j
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okay Sorry for the mistake. Though in that case, just let other people have their unrealistic fantasies. As long as the content is optional then who cares.