no there will be one change to rastadel. and thats IF orcs respect you thay ill obey your order about not sacking city over twins. devs also said that it will have interesting consequnces
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Oh damn. Did not know that. Well that changes a lot.
Ah yes, the orcs will join human armies versus twins because i helped them getyou can save warden or get other ally in rastadel and if you chose patricia you will bascily control it
get orcs leader indebted to you same with goblins so that 2 army's there
get fey support and even proposal that maybe deposing twins wont be that bad
get minotaur on your side
get liruel and helyana
get delanaon your side, save Saintes's(one of hero's )
get chilona be on your side. she can literally can say that she dose not give fuck if you want to kill twins
get succubus spy and one of demons on your side
get favour of Karnas cult
get favour with zanim
get shagoth or wood spirit in your retinue(your personal troops ) plus get another orc chieftain in your retinue gorza blood axe.
but hey not all of us can succeed in things
also Astarte war where you take control and try to sabotage twins is currently in works
the evil lich fey who use this conflict as a way to get more power and destroy whitescar's faction will just let humans live in peace after deposing the twins, they will definietly not try to enslave everyone and use them as fuel for immortality;
Karnas cult will stay on your side and help reestablish peace and order in the kingdom.
Of all the npcs you help and befriend and even get in your debt.. maybe one or two have any connection and slight possibility to be able to gather armies and coordinate against the twins? or do you actually think Greyhide is gonna get minotaurs on our side? Liurial will get elf armies? Not to mention Rowan's "retinue" means nothing against not only demon's armies but the twins themselves - they can be killed without much effort at any time.
Many other npcs (like Clionha) act out of pure self interest and the only way they would join you vs twins is if you already had the upper hand, or at least a chance at upper hand - and since throughout act 1 you do not get a single whiff of being able to oppose them, there is no reason to count them as allies and (imho) little reason to count them as even potential allies.
All those personal connections while good to have - with this version of the game - mean kind of nothing if you want to destroy demons & co and reestablish peace among human lands.
That's not really this game though? It's not the premise of the game. Nowhere in the marketing material of the game is it really seen as an option. Maybe you will get to collapse the twins' forces late in the game for that.
And as has been said before and should be said again; if you are really a good person, you don't leave the prison. At best, you survive to meet a bad end in the early weeks because you never move against Raeve.
There are 3 main path in game.
servant where you serve twins.
conqueror where you take power from twins and you personally rule. all of above examples help in that case
sabotage. which wont end well for you but even then you have some choices.
Best path for sabotage currently is Wardern route. you manage to evacuate most of knights and nobles from rastadel and even save high prises. Plus leave orcs in there weakest position
we dont have goblins outcomes in game yet but i think che lin path will also be very good on that one as she dose not really want expansion and most likely could be convinced to go against twins and not start war against humans. maybe even ally with them i have not seen all events so i may be wrong but these is my gut feeling.
liruel, greyhide helyana and white scar all are good ally that wont have any problem on these path
forest fey will also be good ally as she dose not give shit about twins and there ambitions same with shagoth
plus few more small things in random encounters
BUT you are right main thing if you want to have army's to oppose twins as humans IS wardens route. its kind of hard to get route i hope you know about it
and new upcoming sabotage Astarte battle
the warden path is nothing but a red hearing trap, at least in my opinion, the ones that get away are the nobles who let the situation get as bad as it got. A Dying old fool in the form of Warden himself and yes, the high priestess, of all those maybe she has a minor chance of being able to change something but i doubt it will be significant.
That is not a path of sabotage, is a path of being naive and getting your teeth kicked in by the game going "There is no heroic path, the people in power are mostly corrupt , incompetent or both and trying to follow this paths end in only pain". Rowan tries to do the obvious "good" thing in warning Werden and it goes as well as one could expect, the city is still ramshacked, rowan is beat up and ends with nothing.
The best sabotage route so far i would consider to be the one where Rowan takes control of things instead of the twins, getting the female orc into the throne seems to start a somewhat relation where is interested in him, corrupting the noble lady himself gets him a loyal follower. Yes it can be considered conquerors path, but it brings more results
Okay there are few things. First technically wardens and nobles are not in charge Solonias church and duke are these is whole point why they are doing there coup. so blaming all of it on them is not right. duke and church and rossarias army's ARE different faction from nobles. its mainly dukes fault i hope i don't have to explain why.
Second twins are kind of looked like jokes in these community but they are very far from it. they have fucking teleportation in medieval times these is such a big advantage its unimageable. Warden and everyone is operating without these knowledge or even that demon lords are back(they don't believe rowan because lol teleportation dose not exits ) what twins and rowan mange to achieve for astarte battle is frankly amazing and i can guarantee almost no medieval nation would be able to stop them in that scenario. so why yes warden could have done better ods where not on hes side.
third When you start wardens route rowan is no longer hero He is villain by every measure. he has blood of tens thousands on hes hands. Even rastadel is beyond saving when rowan talks to warden by every law in the world Rowan deserves to be hanged for hes crimes against humanity. Rowan had a choice of hes life or innocent people and he chose hes and condemned thousand to death or worse.
fourth you can say what you whant about Warden that he is classist and has stick up hes ass BUT he is still best military commander rosaria has left and only person who can realistically lead resistance against twins Plus he is incorruptible.
fives we are in medieval world and Wardens knights and nobles are best fighting force rossaria has left. They are only real force that has any power to oppose twins army's in rossaria. they have troops, connections and skill to lead resistance against twins and every motivation to do so and they will most likely do it in next game
in conclusion warden route is only route where any real resistance to twins is possible and is route that definitely deals twins most damage.
Also rowan deserves every time hes teeth get kicked in because LoL telling warden what's about to happen after HE fuking destroys all the capitals defences and brings twins army to door IS not action of good man. Rowan thinks that he can both Survive and bring twins down without cost and lol thats not happening.
Hero who killed the previous BBEG lives peaceful life with his wife until their hometown is slaughtered and wife kidnapped by new BBEGs; after months of torture he's forced to act as BBEGs commander to save himself and his family.
That is the premise of this game. It isn't "good guy joins genocidal maniacs because he want to"; it isn't "good guy gets mind controlled into doing evil demons' bidding"; it isn't "good guy actually really into raping people"
The premise is he doesn't want to be there and is forced with a magical gun to his head. It should be not only expected, but is explicitly in the choices the game provides, that he will have an option to make those horrible decisions - count for something in the end.
This isn't marketing material, this is, imo, explicitly in the game.
Game that is obviously unfinished (hell, Act I is unfinished from what i understand) and that's why i wrote at first that in this state this is misery porn that i have little interest in continuing to play. Maybe (hopefully) things will change but i see little wiggle room.
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? I dont see how that is a problem exactly, if you gain enough allies or more power with chaos magic you can kill or subjugate the twins later on and then compensate for the damage that they have done to the city. The real problem is the fact that Rowan is always under the thumb of those 2, so if they are out of the equation, there will be more options no matter how dire the circunstances are.
Besides, it would be possible for Rowan to offer alternative solutions in the war if he is clever about it.
Its a matter of personal opinion, but the twins are jokes, they are a bullheaded wanna be macho man and a childish girl that thinks she is untouchable. They are also big threats, both things are not mutual-exclusive.
Going in order of your points to give my own.
The nobles are not in charge of the church, but fall does not fall only on the duke, he is the highest ranked noble and a part of the issue, but so are the rest of the nobles, there is no blameless people. By the same point of it being a medieval worlds, that means a good majority of the nobles that go away while the people are left to be sacked are useless, their lands are now in the hands of the twins, their riches just what they could carry, and they have no army to speak off aside from whichever of them that know how to fight.
Second and third i can combine for the answer, at what part did i say rowan is blameless or mentioned teleportation. Yes independent of corruption Rowan was forced to do bad things, he is guilty. And that has nothing to do with the point. Warden brings nothing to the table in his path that changes the situation for better or worse, it is a red hearing because the people that got away have noble blood but little else, names only get you so far, and the same way knights might be elite, it does not change that if the armies of the twins use the teleportation that thread is now cut and my point proven. Its not going to happen, and i can be proven wrong, but i highly believe that there will be no path where that is the "best sabotage",you sabotage things better by mitigating damage having someone loyal to rowan than gambling in an army of now unlanded nobles and knights walking around. Aside from keeping the high priestess unpetrified, that path brings nothing that would not be accomplished by survivors telling what happened.Either way the realms now know that demons conquered a major city.
Fourth,sure, a shame the man is, and i say this without having replayed recently, a dead man walking, all of his opinions on peasants aside, the man cannot even raise a blade to defend himself and his son is no genius, i can be generous and guess that whatever he has is not going to kill him quickly, but how long would that last? The best general might be uncorruptible, but is also a assassin away from being killed even if his infermety does not kill him fast
Fifth, i already gave my view on this one but might as well elaborate without trying to make this a wall of text. If they are the only real force left rosaria is doomed,better forces have been described already and even on a best case scenario only part of the nobles will be usefull and the rest will be people that have no war experience and will instead be making the efforts of the capable ones more dificult.
Once again, this is my opinion, i am neither a writer nor a fly on the devs wall to know their plans, but prefer to take werden's route as example of how rowan cannot fight the twins directly, his efforts there lead to the people that get away being the least likely to be usefull bar a few individual examples, rastadel still falls and the efforts are wasted.
The true sabotage is in taking control of the situation and setting the pieces to minimize the damage and grow the future ability, the twins are arrogant and only care to notice when rowan is foolish enough to belive that werden and outright helping resistence will work, putting the noble woman in control after corrupting her herself gives him a loyal pawn in the game, getting the female orc in power someone in the orc hierarqui that he can tame. If that is not to liking, then putting the anti-noble guy in control, for he is not corrupted, just pragmatic.
I don't disagree that rowan deservers to get his teeth kicked when he is stupid,i am one of the anoying people that pokes holes in the logic that exists to justify there being a game. I don't know how you play your Rowan, but the story all points to the fight agaist the twins needing to be slow and methodical, breaking their control while minimazing the damage. The Rowan that is "a good man"is the one that went to his allies and dealt with the twins in the prologue instead of going alone with no plan.The one we play needs to make smart decisions if he wants to win in the end.
Will i be proven wrong? Only the second game will be able to tell. Maybe that path is the set up for the golden ending where the twins lose with minimal damage, but i doubt it.
Kinda. If Rowan chooses not to confront Shaya with the truth and let her drug him at the end of her route, she will give him drugs that will make him addicted and dependent on her for more, as well as erase his memories of the information he gathered about her, with their aforementioned sex scene here being the closest I've seen to femdom on her part.
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Back them up somewhere and then delete them? they are pretty basic files.
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Found a way to add more slots. Not as elegant as I'd like. Basically use UnRen to decompile "screens.rpyc", open the "screens.rpy" file created by this and add additional columns/rows to the saves screen. I left columns at 4 and changed rows from 3 to 4, which opens up four additional save slots placed at the bottom of the screen on every page. It makes the save screen look a little wonky, but the UI still works fine. Placed a segment of the relevant code in the attached spoiler for reference.
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Is there a path to help Helayna retrieve some semblance of her old life? Training, combat, etc? And not just be a cum hungry sexpet?
In which form the ntr in the game is presented ? Like you ntr others or you get ntrd?
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As I recall, you don't have sex with anyone in a relationship (yet), however you can cheat on your wife with several other women, BUT you also control your wife and cheat on your husband, so I guess the answer would be both.