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Raven_Light

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Form my understanding it was two heroes that did the actual deed of defeating the the old demon king (it been a while since I played but believe it was the high priestess and some incredibly powerful warrior guy). The rest of the the heroes were there primarily to make sure those two reached him and to make sure none of the demon forces were able to interfere.

Rowan was a good fighter but far from the best. During the war Rowan's tactical achievements were his claim to fame, so in my head canon he was primarily included with the heroes as a field tactician to help them adjust the plan as needed. So in my mind it make perfect sense that he would have a hard time standing up to Andras (the twin that seems to have inherited the demon king's martial capabilities) in a direct one-on-one fight.
I think that makes the most sense cuz how they're viewed by others and explains why Andras likes him more so if he gets the job done more brutish than cunning like Jeerza.
 

Raven_Light

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Well, that's something that in the equal way bugs me, because Rowan demonstrated a lack of tactical intelligence sense when he reach Bloodmeen finally searching for his wife, after being denied help by Werden (as if there were no others nobleman who could aid him politically in audience with the ruler of Rastedel, moreover, it was more plausible to go to Raeve Keep looking for aid, as it is more near of Rowan's Home, as he had a past relationship with the nobleman there as educator of his niece, and even she could help in the task or convincing other nobles in what Rowan was declaring, but to no avail, he went alone in an act of desperation, worst, get inside without knowing what to expect (without forget he was there without a plan for escape once Alexia is found), and confront Da Sista even if the player specifically choose to search for Alexia and not confront Da Twins... Another thing is, how Rowan could be so Mastermind Tactician but still look young?, something this guy here noticed:

And as i myself noticed doing a comparison between real ppl who could be in the same social position as Rowan while doing some math of what their ages could be the moment they become nobles from those who were nobles since the beginning...

In relation to what could be the reason for Rowan's flaws from analysis of his doing, this friend was (as far as i remember and if i'm not mistaken or forgetting somebody else) the beginning of the theory:

But i began taking it seriously after this comment...

I just elaborated more around that idea pages ago... Just search "Mastermind Tactician" (which i repeated a lot lol) ;)
Why when I do Alexia NTR path with Andras I do Rowan x Andras path so that way story wise he wants both of sexually. If I do Andras x Alexia then Jeerza x Rowan I just play off as they fine with one another slutting out for one of the twins. Why I think there should be a threesome RowanxAlexia with Andras and/or Jeerza depending on your choices. Cuz I do agree with monk56 that it does seem that way time to time and then it becomes contradiction with Rowan moments. "Just as slutty as your wife." Just have him take both at same time. "Why wait when you want something, just take it." Andras logic . Andras x Rowan x Alexia/ Alexia pregnated by Andras, Rowan turned on by should definitely be act 1 material cuz of that logic. Just saying . I just find it weird that Andras dont wanna take both of them same time storywise. He'd have lot more power over jeerza and then use Rowan to dominate Jeerza. I think Andras be lot more likeable if he was at least brute witted.
 

Raven_Light

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don't give up on the game and it's a very good game
The fact that people are theorizing already shows that they care and want to know more about the story because no one would theorize about something they don't like
I like how Andras compares Alexia too Xzatarl something definitely not being shown yet there lol. Why I like the last bit of Xzatarl moments with Alexia and Rowan/ Rowan. It makes you question her motives to be true, or just manipulative, or false. I mean why shouldnt she want to hit on Alexia in 1 on 1s or encourage her to get with Andras and let Alexia control her too watch or join in if Rowan chooses to only let Xzatarl whip him cuz hes beginning to want her?
 

HentaiGamerN00b

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Why when I do Alexia NTR path with Andras I do Rowan x Andras path so that way story wise he wants both of sexually. If I do Andras x Alexia then Jeerza x Rowan I just play off as they fine with one another slutting out for one of the twins. Why I think there should be a threesome RowanxAlexia with Andras and/or Jeerza depending on your choices. Cuz I do agree with monk56 that it does seem that way time to time and then it becomes contradiction with Rowan moments. "Just as slutty as your wife." Just have him take both at same time. "Why wait when you want something, just take it." Andras logic . Andras x Rowan x Alexia/ Alexia pregnated by Andras, Rowan turned on by should definitely be act 1 material cuz of that logic. Just saying . I just find it weird that Andras dont wanna take both of them same time storywise. He'd have lot more power over jeerza and then use Rowan to dominate Jeerza. I think Andras be lot more likeable if he was at least brute witted.
Well, first Da Twins wants loyalty but at the same time do damage to the one who is responsible for the demise of their Father and the last War ending in their loses, making harder their lives, so, a way they do is trying to get them separated of each other (Alexia and Rowan break up). X'zaralt is like another passive force in contrast to Da Twins, because she's there not because Da Twins but because Rowan's there.... So, initially her interest is Rowan, she admire and idealize him, seeing him in a sad state isn't an option for her, so helping the couple acting like an ointment to heal a wound, a guide to maintain each other together even if corruption becomes necessary is better than seeing them suffer, of course, there are ulterior motives because she could in theory try to visit Rowan during the time of peace, try to seduce him disguised as a commoner woman, there's story about why X'zaralt finally decided to move to Bloodmeen to see Rowan when she could had a lot of chances to do it before, it seems meanwhile she's trying to help the couple, she moves more close to Rowan in a more romantic way (even unexpected to her, because if she wanted to do it wouldn't be necessary to approuch them as a couple). In relation to why main characters npc's can't take by force over them, Rein and his team (Venus Noire) have been wisely avoid sanctions from Patreon, as they stated:
Patreon does not allow nonconsensual sexual content.
SoC does not have rape, will not have rape, and does not need rape. You can write a dark story with corruption elements without noncensual content.

That's how it is, and it will not change.
But, they are on a thin line as the overall story in the background does, even if the whole team comes here to shout us that isn't, there's commenters that signaled that in the story (and some of them very funny as you can see ;)):
Offer only valid for specific definitions of rape.

In all serious though while the game doesn't explicitly include successful rape by force, i does include both drugging and mind altering magic in order to impair the ability to consent, as well as coersion and threats of violence to encourage compliance. Depending on the jurisdiction, those can count as rape.
What do you call it then, when orcs capture and breed women? Spreading love?
But only that can't explain why would be the reasons for a mere human without too much knowledge or education less devotion to a some kind of "Lawful Good" Divinity to be rightful and pure in a place were degrading and corrupting acts are near in every corner, just doesn't make sense... Moreover, you are talking of Andras provocations to alexia not the entire Bloodmeen over Alexia... Even the nuns in the random events in the very same fucking churches can't avoid been corrupted, how would Alexia stand a chance?... Being pure and saint in Bloodmeen, as i said is like the cristal snowflake kid who doesn't step against his bullies and just wait for adult response... Good Luck with that...
 

HentaiGamerN00b

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Can you completely turn off NTR? or it still happens but off screen ?
I could give you a hell of quotes about that, from the dev and from user experience... The game have the option to turn off... Whatever you feel when you are reading next it's up to you.
 

HentaiGamerN00b

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So lore wise it still happens?
As far as i know it doesn't, it's something about how do you feel once you immerse in the story, if you feel this kind of story have more logic with that content included, then yes, even if isn't shown nor mentioned in the entire game. Moreover, it depends on your pov about what you know of NTR as definition, for example, in this game the player manage Rowan and Alexia, both serves as MC (even if managing Alexia doesn't make sense), if Alexia fucks something else (because you can fuck other things than just ppl lol) is NTR for you? if Rowan fucks someone else isn't he NTR Alexia?... Excuse me and i sincerely ask for pardon but some ppl have a mental pastiche around that idea, because the game as far as i know will not prevent Rowan have his "fun" with others but Alexia is obfuscated.
 
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handsonfun

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On whether Rowan could be as skilled a tactician and as brave of a leader as the background says he is, keep in mind that Napoleon was only 24 when he took command of the Siege of Toulon. Men of ambition and ability have a tendency to do amazing things from a very young age. That Rowan went to take on the twins by himself to get his wife back is not surprising if we take into account that such an action was fueled by rage and grief clouding his faculties of reason. Should he have gotten help? Undoubtedly, but as the plot has shown, Rowan is not popular with the powerful so what kind of help could he expect? Are we to believe that Rowan would gather an army of poorly trained peasants simply to take back his wife? Who would believe him? The last war broke the power of evil so completely that the demons have to gather their power in secret lest the good realms march on them again and crush them utterly.

And "White Company" is not a common name for free company's, mercenary bands, landsknecht etc. To us in the anglophone countries it has always been the name for John Hawkwood's famous band of soldiers. Arthur Conan Doyle (of Sherlock Holmes fame) wrote a great book about their exploits. In Spanish and Portuguese speaking countries you refer to the "White Company" that we anglophones know as the "Navarrese Company". In fact the White Company is so famous that when Glen Cook wrote a book about an antihero fantasy mercenary band he named them the Black Company so that readers would know what sort of story they would be getting themselves into. Dark, grim, violent.
 
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Antera

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I can now buy game with peace mind

As far as i know it doesn't, it's something about how do you feel once you immerse in the story, if you feel this kind of story have more logic with that content included, then yes, even if isn't shown nor mentioned in the entire game. Moreover, it depends on your pov about what you know of NTR as definition, for example, in this game the player manage Rowan and Alexia, both serves as MC (even if managing Alexia doesn't make sense), if Alexia fucks something else (because you can fuck other things than just ppl lol) is NTR for you? if Rowan fucks someone else isn't he NTR Alexia?... Excuse me and i sincerely ask for pardon but some ppl have a mental pastiche around that idea, because the game as far as i know will not prevent Rowan have his "fun" with others but Alexia is obfuscated.
For me personally, Its NTR when female lead cheats on male lead.
 

HentaiGamerN00b

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On whether Rowan could be as skilled a tactician and as brave of a leader as the background says he is, keep in mind that Napoleon was only 24 when he took command of the Siege of Toulon. Men of ambition and ability have a tendency to do amazing things from a very young age. That Rowan went to take on the twins by himself to get his wife back is not surprising if we take into account that such an action was fueled by rage and grief clouding his faculties of reason. Should he have gotten help? Undoubtedly, but as the plot has shown, Rowan is not popular with the powerful so what kind of help could he expect? Are we to believe that Rowan would gather an army of poorly trained peasants simply to take back his wife? Who would believe him? The last war broke the power of evil so completely that the demons have to gather their power in secret lest the good realms march on them again and crush them utterly.
Pal, you are making a meta-history here over narrative... We can't make a just comparative between two man in which their circumstances were a hell different... Rowan lives his reality in what we can identify as what we called in our history as "The Ancient Regime" meanwhile Napolion lived near half of his live during "The New Regime" (and participated in the demise of the Ancient Regime). Taking note that, Napolion came from a low nobility family in a decadent monarchy with more access for education than most ppl in Rowan's circumstances, who seems to live a few centuries before the period Napolion lived, the game stated the importance of the food production, something that was more of vital importance in economic terms during Middle Ages, so, we can assume Rowan is living in a period like this, moreover, there are hints about the existence of the Three States full of shit of that period. Respect to Rowan actions, it was precipitated, non calculated, imprudent to his very own reputation, he had some nobles on his side with high esteem for him, but he never could acknowledge them nor consider them.
And "White Company" is not a common name for free company's, mercenary bands, landsknecht etc. To us in the anglophone countries it has always been the name for John Hawkwood's famous band of soldiers. Arthur Conan Doyle (of Sherlock Holmes fame) wrote a great book about their exploits. In Spanish and Portuguese speaking countries you refer to the "White Company" that we anglophones know as the "Navarrese Company". In fact the White Company is so famous that when Glen Cook wrote a book about an antihero fantasy mercenary band he named them the Black Company so that readers would know what sort of story they would be getting themselves into. Dark, grim, violent.
And most probably it is because of that novel that was popularize like that, the company you are referring was originally called Great Company of English and Germans, to later English Company. In Italy, this company was known as White Company of the Falcon and White Company to short, named as most of it's members had symbols and heraldic with that color. Moreover, this company was founded several times and didn't had the same leader each time. And more probably Arthur Connan Doyle take the name from the italian source (as John Hackwood came to be it's leader during the period the company came up to be founded again in Italy), and as you stated, the mercenary armies often are called by many names, one of them are White Companies because this was not only the most famous, but because historically was founded in different places around Europe, other names for them are "Great Companies" because often many of them take that title, other way to refer to them are Free Companies with Free to be understood as "Free" because non of them formed alone by it's own, they always served to some kingdom or noble, in other words, some kind of political power.
 
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Jynx_lucky_j

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Can you completely turn off NTR?
Not only does no NTR happen when you turn off NTR, but no NTR happens when you turn on NTR either...unless you want it to.

Every sex scene is optional. So if a character comes up to your wife and asks her to fuck, you can just have her turn term down. The only thing turning off NTR really does is automatically makes her choose the "no" option. The only real benefit of turning off NTR is that it removes the temptation from the player to select yes in an NTR scene.

or it still happens but off screen ?
While there isn't any off screen NTR, people who ask this question usually don't like this game. I suspect that it is because they have a much higher than average aversion to NTR. But while turning NTR off means that ultimately she will always remain faithful, she will still occasionally be temped. Other characters will still regularly hit on her, she will still occasionally find other people attractive, and she will occasionally get horny around others (usually as a result of being drugged by an aphrodisiac). So you have to ask yourself if you are okay with all that.

Ultimately this is a game about temptation and corruption. So if you can't stand the idea of your character's wife being tempted, even if she resists the temptation in the end, then it is probably better to move on.
 

adrad555

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Pal, you are making a meta-history here over narrative... We can't make a just comparative between two man in which their circumstances were a hell different... Rowan lives his reality in what we can identify as what we called in our history as "The Ancient Regime" meanwhile Napolion lived near half of his live during "The New Regime" (and participated in the demise of the Ancient Regime). Taking note that, Napolion came from a low nobility family in a decadent monarchy with more access for education than most ppl in Rowan's circumstances, who seems to live a few centuries before the period Napolion lived, the game stated the importance of the food production, something that was more of vital importance in economic terms during Middle Ages, so, we can assume Rowan is living in a period like this, moreover, there are hints about the existence of the Three States full of shit of that period. Respect to Rowan actions, it was precipitated, non calculated, imprudent to his very own reputation, he had some nobles on his side with high esteem for him, but he never could acknowledge them nor consider them.

And most probably it is because of that novel that was popularize like that, the company you are referring was originally called Great Company of English and Germans, to later English Company. In Italy, this company was known as White Company of the Falcon and White Company to short, named as most of it's members had symbols and heraldic with that color. Moreover, this company was founded several times and didn't had the same leader each time. And more probably Arthur Connan Doyle take the name from the italian source (as John Hackwood came to be it's leader during the period the company came up to be founded again in Italy), and as you stated, the mercenary armies often are called by many names, one of them are White Companies because this was not only the most famous, but because historically was founded in different places around Europe, other names for them are "Great Companies" because often many of them take that title, other way to refer to them are Free Companies with Free to be understood as "Free" because non of them formed alone by it's own, they always served to some kingdom or noble, in other words, some kind of political power.
Here there are people arguing about historic names of mercenaries companies, while in the game there is an actual battle scene about soldiers pushing each others with shields in a deadly battle as a means of wining...

IT HURTS!!! PLS GUYS GO MAKE A GAME!!! I NEED SOME GOOD MEDIEVAL RPG!!!
 

adrad555

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cucks be like:
Is she still cheating on me?? even when i turn ntr off???

Dude you're being ntrd even when nothing happening because you have this mindset.:KEK::KEK:
M8 you need to be more considered with people. There are plenty of games on this side where it explicitly states that ntr is avoidable and then it happens in the background.

Like NTR is one of if not the worst experience that can happen to somebody. You can hardly blame a guy for trying to spare himself from it.
 

Raven_Light

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Well, first Da Twins wants loyalty but at the same time do damage to the one who is responsible for the demise of their Father and the last War ending in their loses, making harder their lives, so, a way they do is trying to get them separated of each other (Alexia and Rowan break up). X'zaralt is like another passive force in contrast to Da Twins, because she's there not because Da Twins but because Rowan's there.... So, initially her interest is Rowan, she admire and idealize him, seeing him in a sad state isn't an option for her, so helping the couple acting like an ointment to heal a wound, a guide to maintain each other together even if corruption becomes necessary is better than seeing them suffer, of course, there are ulterior motives because she could in theory try to visit Rowan during the time of peace, try to seduce him disguised as a commoner woman, there's story about why X'zaralt finally decided to move to Bloodmeen to see Rowan when she could had a lot of chances to do it before, it seems meanwhile she's trying to help the couple, she moves more close to Rowan in a more romantic way (even unexpected to her, because if she wanted to do it wouldn't be necessary to approuch them as a couple). In relation to why main characters npc's can't take by force over them, Rein and his team (Venus Noire) have been wisely avoid sanctions from Patreon, as they stated:


But, they are on a thin line as the overall story in the background does, even if the whole team comes here to shout us that isn't, there's commenters that signaled that in the story (and some of them very funny as you can see ;)):
Yeah Patreon a bit stiff minded, but I get why cuz of certain types of folks .

Thats a very interesting plot development with xzaratl and Rowan though. Im glad its not designed where she takes him by force. I like how that its more mutual. Both ends not just the one. Even when Alexia in command moment happens I like how its all consent but still dark.

I think Xzaratl is the only character that has the ability to out do both the twins .

Cuz with Andras I imagine it to be him giving too her 80% of time Rowan only getting head, hand, or maybe bit of ass cheeks, if Jeerza it be more like madeline moments, 50/50 but Xzaratl being the more pure/ but corrupt same time. From what I interpreted best I could while playing. I think I only lost out on 3-4 scenes with Rowan x Alexia. Alexia with Andras most of time than Rowan.
 
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