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vandal.h

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I can't agree with anyone thinking Andras is the smarter twin, his only plan so far has been "Andras smash!" and if it doesn't work then smash harder. At lest Jezera realizes that they need help. With Andras at the helm, I doubt they'd even manage to take Raeve's Keep let alone Rastadel.

Granted the writers are trying to give him more nuance with the whole Greffin alliance in the NTR plotline but most of that goes against his previous characterization.
 
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aykarin

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been waiting a long time for updates. How has the NTR been? I am hoping it has gotten dark.
If you have waited for a long time, there should be lots of new NTR content for you.

Andras NTR path is basically finished (only the last scene is still waiting for art) and is VERY good in my opinion. Surprisingly (since its only Act I), it goes very far with Alexia's corruption. If you want something dark, you should definitely check it out.

Jezera NTR path hasn't been touched in a while and is still not finished, but the already done part is also high quality.

As for the remaining content, there are three NTR mini-arcs: Greyhide (minotaur; mostly older stuff), Silquien (aquatic creature), and Ophelia (good lesbian NTR). There are also a couple of one-time NTR events here and there, mostly on Alexia's jobs, featuring various creatures (orc, goblin, succubus).
 

Ajinkya22

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I think I see Andras (original) plan differently than you do.
I think Andras "plan" is the brute force method: Get a bunch of Orcs and your own brawn to crush all. (which is stupid and will fail).
But Rowan has no real place in his plan, so he likes to fuck around with him. And to assert his dominance - which is generally something you have to do if you lack said dominance.
I honestly think Andras originally *wanted* Rowan to show backbone and go against him, so that the red idiot could have a decent excuse to kill Rowan.

I am not sure about how smart Andras actually is. It is kind of a gut feeling that he will be more trouble than his sister, once Rowan starts to move against them.
Yes u remember in one event he asked Rowan to give him blowjob but if u choose option to spar with him and passed all skill checks then he praise u for your skills as general he is all about might and slaughter he don't even care about his vision he just randomly killing orcs because they are not displine that why I m exited for mitigation plan in astate battle where Rowan minimize damage to Rosalia army but still giving twins victory they want
 

Ajinkya22

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Let's also not completely ignore the revenge angle. Sure, the twins claim that they don't care about the fact that you helped kill their father, but we all know that demons are liars. And Andras in particular is not doing a good job of hiding his daddy issues. After all there are plenty of more easily captured and controlled statesmen that could do the job they caught Rowan for. And if Rowan refuse to serve them, they don't waste any additional time trying to convince him to join them, they just shrug and throw him in the dungeon to die and forget about him.

Do I think they are sad or angry that the heroes killed their father, of course not. But I do think that defeating or perhaps even dominating the heroes. The problem is that most the heroes are really strong, and because they are very important they are also very well protected. But there is one hero that is just a slightly above average guy, who's only really strength is that he is particularly clever. Plus he is just living in a tiny backwater rural village with no protection. They can snatch him up easy (oops, maybe not so easy after all. Quick grab his wife). I'm sure they would have liked to do the same to all the heroes, but Rowan was the only one they could actually get to.

Frankly, I'll be surprised if when we go to take the other kingdoms the twins don't strongly push to capture the other heroes over killing them.
U are right other heroes i think one is knight 7 ft tall or something their are wizard and I think they are nobles so they are well protected but Rowan Batman of this game is vulnerable both from that Dumas's Duke and warden and all other nobles that why I like kharos dream where he tell Rowan that nobility not even let u train villager to protect themselves
 

Ajinkya22

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While they absolutely are incompetent to rule and any Empire of theirs would end up a wasteland, I don't think their arrogance is unfounded. Andras does seem invincible. And Jezera's portal network and trove of magic items are very much impressive. They are arrogant because they have not really been challenged. Now I am sure someone magically powerful could affect them but they'd need to be extraordinary.
Yes u remember when Rowan say we need help of fae magic jezerra says they don't need them they just devide and conquer but Rowan tell her that they win Rosalia because enemy don't know what they are facing both number send to capital by Duke reave and Rowan is wrong but now element of surprise is over next war they know karnas kids are back with Rowan as their general that's why that Rosalia main lady send her personal cApitAl guards to capture reave keep because they think keep capture by some low status demon and orc
 
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Oriandu

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The easiest way to explain the twins is that neither can succeed without the other. If you remove Jezera from the situation then Andras fizzles out pretty quickly because he doesn't have the necessary interpersonal skills, connections, knowledge, or magical know how to conquer the kingdoms of man. Jezera also fizzles out pretty quickly if you remove Andras because she doesn't have the necessary strategic know how to lead a military from the front lines, or the brutish charisma needed to inspire an army of orcs, and she's far too impatient and childish to properly wage a ground war. Without each other they're a regional warlord that no one takes too seriously. With each other they're a slightly larger pair of warlords who are eventually crushed by the nearest kingdom when they get a little to big for their britches. Whatever skills and traits they might have that make them effective are negated by their lack of key attributes that they both lack, they forcibly recruited Rowan and use magic to keep him under control for a reason.

Rowan is the only thing that makes the twins an actual threat. Before he came along they were housed in a tiny, decrepit castle in the middle of nowhere with no standing army and without the necessary funding to build one. Rowan singlehandedly recruits a country threatening armada of orcs, monsters, and men, builds Castle Bloodmeen up so it can support the people necessary for the war effort, and is able to manage the twins effectively enough to keep their bloodthirsty, impatient, and childish behavior from ruining things.

tldr; Neither twin is the smart twin, they're both too impulsive, too dimwitted, and too shortsighted to win any kind of war.
 

Peperoni

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Hi guys, if I am not mistaken, this game was suposed to have 3 parts, right? If it is so, do you have an idea when they are gonna finish the first? I want to play it, but I think my best move would be to wait till at least 1 part is finished. Thanks in advance!
 
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Kisama33

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Hi guys, if I am not mistaken, this game was suposed to have 3 parts, right? If it is so, do you have an idea when they are gonna finish the first? I want to play it, but I think my best move would be to wait till at least 1 part is finished. Thanks in advance!
Maybe before the end of this year, no one can say how much time it will take to finish the remaining “questlines“, plus all the debug and polish to the game before reaching a suitable “Final“ version.

From what I heard there not much left to do, and from what you can see from the changelogs they are already focusing on those steps to make the game fully functional to when they are done with the remaining content, so who knows.
 

Oriandu

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Hi guys, if I am not mistaken, this game was suposed to have 3 parts, right? If it is so, do you have an idea when they are gonna finish the first? I want to play it, but I think my best move would be to wait till at least 1 part is finished. Thanks in advance!
Allegedly this year. However you might as well start playing now as if act one is any example act two isn't going to be finished until 2033 at the earliest so there's not much point in delaying.
 
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Any fix for joiplay or at least a working android apk?
Yeah figured out a way to play it on Joiplay.
I'm using Joiplay 1.20.550 alongside the Renpy Plugin 8.3.3 and it's capable of running the game

To ensure you're using that specific plugin,
Edit the type to Renpy (Python 3) after holding the game icon for a few seconds
 

404NoNamegr

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Yeah figured out a way to play it on Joiplay.
I'm using Joiplay 1.20.550 alongside the Renpy Plugin 8.3.3 and it's capable of running the game

To ensure you're using that specific plugin,
Edit the type to Renpy (Python 3) after holding the game icon for a few seconds
That did nothing but im thinking joiplay is not loading 8.3.3 correctly or if at all because i reinstalled the plugin and still crashes but I have noticed it might not load the plugin because the loading screen is like the other options (black colored instead of white) like it used to.
 
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Hi guys, if I am not mistaken, this game was suposed to have 3 parts, right? If it is so, do you have an idea when they are gonna finish the first? I want to play it, but I think my best move would be to wait till at least 1 part is finished. Thanks in advance!
Look i'm not gonna sugarcoat it, nobody knows first act has been going for about 8 to 9 years so i guess a good estimate would probably be year 2041
 
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That did nothing but im thinking joiplay is not loading 8.3.3 correctly or if at all because i reinstalled the plugin and still crashes but I have noticed it might not load the plugin because the loading screen is like the other options (black colored instead of white) like it used to.
A way to check wether the plug in is being used is to, play the game and when the black screen shows up (just before it crashes) shift to the multi app view ( the button right next to the home button).
The view shows which specific plugin version Joiplay is using to run the game.
 
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